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  • Monday, August 31, 2009 3:24 PMSimple Samples Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Social Bookmarks are not social. The name Social Bookmarks is another of many very confusing names that Microsoft creates and Microsoft needs to understand that. The thread Where are the social forums? was moved from here to the off-topic forum but it is relevant here. I understand that Microsoft wants to be confusing, but I think it is wrong to confuse people. People need a thread such as this to understand that the word "social" does not describe any MSDN forum. I truly believe that many people will not understand why the "Social Bookmarks" are not social.

    If this explanation also gets moved to the off-topic forum then that will be proof that Microsoft does not intend to explain confusing things and instead intends to confuse.
     

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  • Monday, August 31, 2009 6:34 PMHusain ShambhooraMSFT, AdministratorUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     
    Hi Sam,

    The "Social Bookmarks Discussion Forum" was focused to obtain feedback for the user generated bookmarking service from Microsoft (called "Social Bookmarks"). Hence, the original thread was moved to the off-topic forum.

    I have responded on the original thread providing an alternative location where questions like "where is the forum for..." can be asked.

    Hope this helps!
    Husain Shambhoora (@husains) | Program Manager, Microsoft Corporation
  • Monday, August 31, 2009 7:41 PMSimple Samples Users MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers MedalsUsers Medals
     

    Yes, but do you understand that there is nothing social about any of that? Of course perhaps I don't understand what "user generated bookmarking service from Microsoft" means. Is it different from the MSDN forums? The MSN Encarta definiton of "social" includes:

    • relating to society: relating to human society and how it is organized
    • relating to interaction of people: relating to the way in which people in groups behave and interact
    • living in a community: living or preferring to live as part of a community or colony rather than alone

    All of those seem contradictory to the technical nature of all the MSDN forums. The term "social" implies non-technical discussion. The last of the three definitions above includes community but it emphasizes "living". I can understand that "social" implies community but it aslo implies many other things.

    Microsoft has a tenedency to redefine very common words. The term Wizard is used to discuss applications that are as unintelligent as most other software. The Windows Explorer tool does not explore windows. The Windows Mail program is different from the Windows Live Mail, yet I doubt that Windows Live Mail is significantly more alive than Windows Mail.

    It would help to clarify that "social" in this context does not have the meaning that it does in most contexts and in most of the definitions in dictionaries. It would be amazing if Microsoft were to admit that they are redefining the common definition of the term.


    Sam Hobbs; see my SimpleSamples.Info