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MCITP - SA certifed, what about 2008 MCSA title?

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  • Wednesday, April 11, 2012 9:04 PM
     
     
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    If we already got the MCITP - SA Title by completeing the mandatory exams will we now by default get the new Microsoft Certified Solutions Associate (MCSA) title?
     

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  • Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:42 PM
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    As long as you've completed 70-640, 70-642 and 70-646 you will be awarded MCSA: Windows Server 2008

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  • Friday, April 13, 2012 10:35 AM
     
     
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    I have the same issue. I got my MCITP SA & EA on Windows Server 2008 last year.

    I would like to get MCSE: Private Cloud this year, but I don't have MCSA: Windows Server 2008.

    What I need to do to be awarded MCSA: Windows Server 2008?

     
  • Friday, April 13, 2012 10:37 AM
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    70-640, 70-642 and 70-646 as stated above.

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  • Friday, April 13, 2012 10:48 AM
     
     
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    I passed 70-640, 70-642 & 70-646 last year when I was getting MCITP certificates.
    So what should I do now to get MCSA: Windows Server 2008.
     
  • Friday, April 13, 2012 10:52 AM
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    Nothing.  You will be awarded MCSA once the new certification program is fully implemented

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  • Friday, April 13, 2012 11:55 AM
     
     
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    Hi,

    I got my MCITP EA, does that mean I still have to take 70-646 to get MCSA Windows Server 2008?

    I thought MCITP EA should cover everything for MCITP SA

     
  • Friday, April 13, 2012 11:57 AM
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    Yes you still need to do 70-646 to get MCSA: Windows Server 2008.  MCSA: Windows Server 2008 has nothing to do with MCITP SA

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  • Friday, April 13, 2012 1:07 PM
     
     
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    MCSA: Windows Server 2008 has nothing to do with MCITP SA


    Isn't it 70-640 + 70-042 + 70-646 = MCITP SA which is also = MCSA Windows Server 2008?
     
  • Saturday, April 14, 2012 10:58 AM
     
     
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    So, hang on a minute! - because I went down the MCITP EA path, I'm penalised because I didn't do 70-646...

    ... whilst someone who did MCITP SA automatically gets the MCSA?

    That doesn't sound right.

     
  • Saturday, April 14, 2012 11:10 AM
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    As per this link http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsserver.aspx, you need to complete exams 70-640, 70-642 & 70-646 to get MCSA: Windows Server 2008

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  • Saturday, April 14, 2012 12:29 PM
     
     
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    So, hang on a minute! - because I went down the MCITP EA path, I'm penalised because I didn't do 70-646...

    ... whilst someone who did MCITP SA automatically gets the MCSA?

    That doesn't sound right.

    That's what I thought as well

    So what will happen to MCITP EA in the new MS certification scheme, while MCITP SA will become MCSA: Windows Server 2008?

    Does MS has any intention to transform MCITP EA to the new MCSA or MCSE?

    I always thought MCSE server 2003 is higher level than MCSA server 2003, as MCITP EA is higher level than MCITP SA

    That doesn't sound right

     
  • Saturday, April 14, 2012 1:37 PM
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    All I've seen in the new certification program for Windows Server based certifications is the Private Cloud certification listed here http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-private-cloud.aspx?WT.mc_id=v3_MSL_social_MCSEprivcloud

    The MCSA: Windows Server 2008 image takes you to http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windows-server-mcsa.aspx

    This is a new certification program (currently Private Cloud and SQL Server 2012 have been released) and Microsoft will be adding additional certifications in the future.

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  • Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:15 PM
     
     
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    I have the MCITP EA cert, and not the SA.

    However, I looked on my profile earlier and I have been automatically awarded the MCSA on Server 2008, even though I haven't passed 70-646.

    Chris McKeown MBCS CITP
    MCP | MCTS | MCDST | MCSA | MCSE | MCITP:EA

     
  • Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:53 PM
     
     
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    I spoke to a Microsoft Learning representative earlier via Live Chat.

    He confirmed that both the MCITP SA and EA certifications qualify you for the MCSA on Windows Server 2008. Here's the chat log:

    Jeffrey: Hello, I'm Jeffrey with the Microsoft Certification Guidance Team.
    Jeffrey: Hi Chris

    Chris: Hi Jeffrey

    Jeffrey: I can see here that you have received the MCSA in Windows Server 2008 certification
    Jeffrey: Is that correct?

    Chris: That's right, although I haven't passed exam 646 since I didn't do the MCITP SA - I did the EA
    Chris: so I'm wondering why I qualify

    Jeffrey: No need to worry. You can earn an MCSA for Windows Server 2008 by completing either the MCITP: Server Administrator or MCITP: Enterprise Administrator

    Chris McKeown MBCS CITP
    MCP | MCTS | MCDST | MCSA | MCSE | MCITP:EA

     
  • Friday, April 20, 2012 4:20 AM
     
     
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    I have the MCITP EA cert, and not the SA.

    However, I looked on my profile earlier and I have been automatically awarded the MCSA on Server 2008, even though I haven't passed 70-646.

    confirmed, it happens to me as well

    so good news and bad news:

    GOOD news is the current MCITP EA are awarded to MCSA on server 2008 without the need to take and pass 70-646

    BAD news is, by doing this, it means MS has no intention to include MCITP EA to the latest certification programs

     
  • Friday, April 20, 2012 4:39 AM
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    BAD news is, by doing this, it means MS has no intention to include MCITP EA to the latest certification programs


    Where are you getting this information from?

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  • Friday, April 20, 2012 5:19 AM
     
     
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    BAD news is, by doing this, it means MS has no intention to include MCITP EA to the latest certification programs


    Where are you getting this information from?

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    Jeff Wharton
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    this is the assumption I made base on the fact that MS automatically awarded MCITP EA to MCSA on server 2008

    if there is an equivalent certification for MCITP EA, then why is MCITP EA awarded the MCSA on server 2008?

    this is only my logic and is not offical. sorry didn't make it clear enough

     
  • Friday, April 20, 2012 5:37 AM
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    if there is an equivalent certification for MCITP EA, then why is MCITP EA awarded the MCSA on server 2008?

    If you’d read into MCSA and MCSE, you'd have seen that no equivalent certification currently exists.  How can a certification be offered if it doesn't currently exist?

    The logical (I say logical as I still haven't received an official response from Microsoft) thing for MS to do was to award MCITP: EA recipients with MCSA: Windows Server 2008 as EA is a higher certification than SA and only awarding it to SA recipients wouldn't be fair.

    this is the assumption I made base on the fact that MS automatically awarded MCITP EA to MCSA on server 2008

    Unfortunately a lot of the "miss-information" floating around at the moment has come about due to people “assuming” something and then spreading their assumption.  Then by the power of Chinese Whispers, these assumptions turn into facts and everyone gets upset :-)

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  • Friday, April 20, 2012 5:57 AM
     
     
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    it is still too early at this stage, and MS has not release enough information

    hope things will be clear to everyone soon :)

     
  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 6:36 PM
     
     
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    A simple read of the microsoft learning site for MCSA 2008 shows that if you have the MCITP SA ot MCITP EA then you automatically have the MCSA 2008.

    Mark Railton, MCTS, MCP

     
  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 8:04 PM
     
     
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    A simple read of the microsoft learning site for MCSA 2008 shows that if you have the MCITP SA ot MCITP EA then you automatically have the MCSA 2008.

    Mark Railton, MCTS, MCP

    Yes, it does now. This thread was started in April and it certainly made no mention of it back then.

    Chris McKeown MBCS CITP
    MCP | MCTS | MCDST | MCSA | MCSE | MCITP:EA

     
  • Thursday, June 28, 2012 11:01 PM
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    A simple read of the microsoft learning site for MCSA 2008 shows that if you have the MCITP SA ot MCITP EA then you automatically have the MCSA 2008.

    Mark Railton, MCTS, MCP

    Yes, it does now. This thread was started in April and it certainly made no mention of it back then.

    Chris McKeown MBCS CITP
    MCP | MCTS | MCDST | MCSA | MCSE | MCITP:EA


    100% correct :-)

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