Testking legitimacy issue
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 2:05 PM
So where is Microsoft with the whole Testking issue? I've read on some forums that Microsoft has reached a settlement with Testking and now it is a legitimate resource. Others are saying it is still a braindump and Microsoft is against the use of their study materials. I've checked Certguard and according to them it is still a braindump. So does anyone know, as far as Microsoft's policies, is Testking an acceptable (and legal) site to obtain resources, test questions, and other study materials?
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Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:11 PM
Not sure you'll get an "on the record" response here.
Personally, I have used testking and have liked it. For CRM certs.
I failed my first 4.0 exam, and then I bought the Testking materials and they seem pretty well-rounded to me. I am studying on vacation next week, and will test when I get back, I think I will be much more prepared this time and will know what the test wants me to say, regardless of its validity.
If you ask me, it's not the study materials that are the problem, it's the tests themselves. They need to be overhauled like some of the other groups have been doing. But that's a whole 'nother thread I suppose.
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Thursday, November 27, 2008 1:21 AM
I definitely agree. I'm studying for a bit of an older test; Windows server 2003 exam. I'm really struggling with it. I've talked to a few other people personally and they have nothing but great reviews about Testking. I've just been told that some of the questions are very closely related to those on the tests. In some aspect, they should be. If Microsoft expects the materials on the tests to simulate real life situations, then I would like to have resources that I can study and drill into my head so I am prepared to answer those questions. Some of the stuff you read strictly from text doesn't prepare you for any test realated subjects, let alone real life situations.
Regardless, I don't want to use any material that could jeopardize me losing my certifications. I'd rather just keep testing til I can legitimately pass, or just not have them at all. Of course it's much easier to get hired into a company and get promoted with specific certifications, but it's important to do it right. At least for myself. Leave it up to God, that's always best.
Thanks for the info.
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Thursday, November 27, 2008 3:57 AM
"Of course it's much easier to get hired into a company and get promoted with specific certifications"
When I'm hiring, experience is more important than certifications.
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Thursday, November 27, 2008 10:16 AMHi HHH,
Most MS CRM exams are passable with a decent knowledge of MS CRM and by using the study guide. I would almost use this as a guideline to whether you'll be able to perform your job if employed as a MS CRM consultant.
Having sat MS exams for the last eight years (MCSE, MSDBA, MCSD) I have to say it was somewhat pleasant to be able to pass a MS exam based purely on experience and study documentation provided as opposed to some exams where even in depth research could not yield a definitive answer on some questions. The exams are certainly passable by studying the documentation provided for MS CRM. Additionally if able to pass it (without seeing all the questions and answers prior to the exam), you'll probably also be better at passing a technical interview.
Cheers,
Karlo -
Tuesday, December 02, 2008 9:13 PMOwner
According to CertGuard, testking and others like it are braindumps and one can risk losing their certification by using the material. You can check a Web sites validity through Cert Guard's web site by using the Search Tool offered. Just enter the Web site's domain name and it will return the result of valid web site, braindump or other.
However, I could be wrong about testking and others. It is difficult to sort out as there is quite a bit of conflicting information.
It looks like www.MeasureUp.com is a valid service for certification preparation, but I am not sure they have CRM prep material yet. I would contact them.
Happy Testing!
- Proposed As Answer by jyrkiar Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:09 PM
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Tuesday, December 02, 2008 11:02 PMHi,
Actually the learning process in the middle of getting certification, is the most important factor, and not obtaining the certification itself. When reading, studying, and most importantly practicing certain modules inside the certification, you will obtain a useful experience that you can use, to tackle real world issue.
Regards,
hadi teo. -
Sunday, July 01, 2012 1:34 PM
"If Microsoft expects the materials on the tests to simulate real life situations, then I would like to have resources that I can study and drill into my head so I am prepared to answer those questions."
Legit practice tests (which are not braindumps, like trancender, measureup, ucertify) are very much into the topic and work well as honest learning tool.
It does not need to have actual questions leaked from exams to be on topic."...but it's important to do it right. At least for myself"
I appreciate that at least you have plans to study this stuff honestly. Some have moral -some other's don't. I wouldn't touch dumps ever, no matter how cheap those are and how easily available. It's a matter of selling your soul or not. (I am not religious though :D ).
It's too bad that there is topics where is no legit practice tests at all, like SCCM 2007. Only braindumps everywhere. Forefront Identity Manager seems to be another.
About that "... At least for myself" part i have to say that i agree on that especially.
If having problems at a work i'd like to be able to tell my self that "at least i should know this" and it is easier when materials are thoroughly studied and honestly tested. -
Sunday, July 01, 2012 1:38 PMSo, actually you are not certified because your competence level couldn't be correctly measured with the test. You had real Q's & A's for the exam. It's called cheating where i come from..
If Microsoft would know that you used braindump achieving your certification they'll take it away and probably prevent you from taking those at the future. Also your companys partnership should be re-evalueted -at least i hope so.
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 1:41 PM
On vacation?
I have studied 6 years for my certs, and i have passed 12 exams in that time. I'm MCSA: 2003, MCSE: 2003 and MCITP: Enterprise Administrator. And i am unemployed because you and other braindumbers have ruined reputation of the certificates.
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 1:55 PM
Huh?! No doubt that you are emphazising experience over studies -as you have used short cuts your self. Brain dump certified doesn't have to _know_ that topic which is tested, that's for sure.
And if you had no moral to study honestly how could you trust that others would have either.I hope you sleep well knowing that there is unemployed IT-professionals who have spent years for studying topics thoroughly and have honestly certified -who are unemployed, when you have luxury life with false certificates.
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:05 PM
Points for you about honest work in studies and doing it right way.
I have sit some tough exams too, like 70-297 to mention one but even if it was incredibly tough for me (english is not my native language, and man that test had lot's of text to read) i passed it with second try. It was my last exam to complete MCSE 2003 so in that phase i had already done 70-294 and lot's of lab training which helped me through.
I got it passed because in that phase it was most important thing in the world to me. In those months, i lived for that exam! Studied materials daily, hours after hours. Watched video lectures, read books and trained with practice tests. I didn't do much else but studied in those days. Ok, i picked some food from local store and got drunk couple times -but went quickly back to the studies after that.
And IMHO, passing tough exams honestly needs that.How i was rewarded afterwards? What i got from that? Nothing. Recruiters think i am brain dump user -how else could i be unemployed? Gees.. .
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:10 PMYou are right about it. Test king has been most known brain dump source for years.
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Sunday, July 01, 2012 2:12 PMYes, that should be obvious to all of us.
Sadly brain dump users take a shortcut and go almost directly to the exams, lacking real in depth knowledge of the topic.
