Bluescreen when booting Restore CD!
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Friday, April 20, 2007 3:04 PMAt the moment I'm trying to boot my laptop from an USB stick with the Home PC Restore CD but it bluescreens. I have successfully taken a backup of the machine and I want to do a test-restore of Windows XP before I install a fresh copy of Windows Vista (using another USB memory stick).
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Friday, April 20, 2007 3:30 PM
Sondre - MSFT Regional Director wrote: At the moment I'm trying to boot my laptop from an USB stick with the Home PC Restore CD but it bluescreens. I have successfully taken a backup of the machine and I want to do a test-restore of Windows XP before I install a fresh copy of Windows Vista (using another USB memory stick). I tried to burn the Home PC Restore CD and boot from en USB DVD-ROM, but the same bluescreen appears. Problem is: STOP: 0x0000007B. I'm gonna try and flash the BIOS to see if there are any fixes for it. The machine is a HP TC 4200 Tablet PC.
- Proposed As Answer by Ken WarrenMVP, Moderator Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:03 PM
- Marked As Answer by Ken WarrenMVP, Moderator Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:03 PM
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Saturday, March 22, 2008 3:35 PMModerator
David, a very usable workaround is to purchase something like this USB/SATA/IDE adapter to connect the bare drive to another PC, then try a restore from that other PC. You can order one online, or pick one up at a Microcenter/Fry's/etc.
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Friday, April 20, 2007 3:30 PM
Sondre - MSFT Regional Director wrote: At the moment I'm trying to boot my laptop from an USB stick with the Home PC Restore CD but it bluescreens. I have successfully taken a backup of the machine and I want to do a test-restore of Windows XP before I install a fresh copy of Windows Vista (using another USB memory stick). I tried to burn the Home PC Restore CD and boot from en USB DVD-ROM, but the same bluescreen appears. Problem is: STOP: 0x0000007B. I'm gonna try and flash the BIOS to see if there are any fixes for it. The machine is a HP TC 4200 Tablet PC.
- Proposed As Answer by Ken WarrenMVP, Moderator Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:03 PM
- Marked As Answer by Ken WarrenMVP, Moderator Thursday, October 27, 2011 7:03 PM
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Friday, April 20, 2007 3:59 PMUpgraded the BIOS (the original one was from 2005, the new one from 2007) but that did not change anything. My HP Tablet PC keeps bluescreening when I'm booting the Home PC Restore files. This is pretty bad and I would appreciate some help.
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Monday, April 23, 2007 3:53 PM
I have the same problem with my Acer Travel Mate C300 tablet laptop, the backup works ok just the blue screen when booting from the home pc restore CD
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 12:57 AMModerator
Sondre - MSFT Regional Director wrote: Sondre - MSFT Regional Director wrote: At the moment I'm trying to boot my laptop from an USB stick with the Home PC Restore CD but it bluescreens. I have successfully taken a backup of the machine and I want to do a test-restore of Windows XP before I install a fresh copy of Windows Vista (using another USB memory stick). I tried to burn the Home PC Restore CD and boot from en USB DVD-ROM, but the same bluescreen appears. Problem is: STOP: 0x0000007B. I'm gonna try and flash the BIOS to see if there are any fixes for it. The machine is a HP TC 4200 Tablet PC.
Please see the FAQs on the forums. the 0x7B stop error has been addressed.
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 8:39 AM
That was not very helpful to say the least. The first KB says there is a problem with Pqv2i.sys driver. I'm booting off the Microsoft Restore CD, I have not installed any Symantec tools.
The second KB is about pressing F6 during installation of Windows to select OEM drivers for storage. But this is 2-3 year old HP machine that does not use the latest technologies of any kind, and I can easily install Windows XP and Windows Vista on the hardware without custom hardware installation.
The forum post doesn't tell me if this will be correct in the future. It does not explain any way I can fix this issue. What I am stuck with is a backup solution that doesn't work, and the outlook for v1.0 of Windows Home Server is not good if I can't use it to backup and restore my machines.
I'm willing to run some debugging/tracing on my end to figure out this problem, but then someone at Microsoft needs to contact me/explain me how and what I should do.
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:17 PM
I am going to stick my inexperianced neck out, please don't chop it off if I am wrong.
I don't answer to many questions here, I mostly read and try to learn. With that said, everything I have read so far about drivers during installation or restore, the error you are receiving points directly to the need to manually provide additional drivers. If I understand correctly, as WHS is built SBS 2003, this causes the need for drivers which an installation of XP or Vista would not. Have you tried providing the drivers to see if it would get you past the blue screen? Also, it appears, from my reading here, that older hardware seems to require these additional drivers more than the newer hardware. I am using brand new hardware used to build the machine housing WHS, 2x SATA HDD, and I was not required to manually provide drivers, not for beta 2, nor the installation of CTP. As I already said, it appears, from the threads I have read, that older hardware is more likely to require these additional drivers. Good luck, Seree
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Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:37 PM
Seree1 wrote: I am going to stick my inexperianced neck out, please don't chop it off if I am wrong.
I don't answer to many questions here, I mostly read and try to learn. With that said, everything I have read so far about drivers during installation or restore, the error you are receiving points directly to the need to manually provide additional drivers. If I understand correctly, as WHS is built SBS 2003, this causes the need for drivers which an installation of XP or Vista would not. Have you tried providing the drivers to see if it would get you past the blue screen? Also, it appears, from my reading here, that older hardware seems to require these additional drivers more than the newer hardware. I am using brand new hardware used to build the machine housing WHS, 2x SATA HDD, and I was not required to manually provide drivers, not for beta 2, nor the installation of CTP. As I already said, it appears, from the threads I have read, that older hardware is more likely to require these additional drivers. Good luck, Seree
My WHS is an mini-itx motherboard and on beta 2, there was not embedded drivers for the SATA controller. With the CTP, the drivers for the SATA controller was included and my server installed without any problems. I made a clean install of the server.
As you understand, my problem is with the tablet pc when I try to boot from the Windows Home Restore CD. I have tried to boot from both USB memory stick and external USB DVD-drive, both of them will blue screen my device. The blue screen appears 1-2 seconds after the Windows Server 2003 logo and progress bar appears. Before this, there is a black and white progressbar that completes successfully. There is to my know, no way I can choose to "install" any custom drivers during this process. Am I wrong? Can I hit F6 during the progress bar that appears?
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Tuesday, June 12, 2007 7:56 PM
Hi, i am having the same problem with one of my pc. I was trying to restore using the restore cd and same as you i got the blue screen. I was reading the FAQ but like you said did not help much.
I had no other choice but re-install xp from scrach because i intencionally erased the pc to see if the restore works.
Did you find a workaround or fix to this issue?
I was wondering myself what is the point to have a server that do not do what is supouse to do, like restore a pc.
Thanks.
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Monday, August 06, 2007 12:57 PM
I can confirm that the RC Restore CD image that is currently available through the Connect website will not boot off of a USB DVD drive. I have a new machine (using an MSI motherboard) that I needed to restore to after a hard drive failure.
This new MSI motherboard takes the IDE drive and converts it to a USB drive on the motherboard. (Yep, it was the first time I've heard of it too!
). When I booted from the CD, it would behave just like others reported in this thread. It would get to the loading windows screen and then blue screen with a stop of 0x0000007b.
Then I decided to try a real USB to IDE adapter that I had to see if it was something funny on the motherboard. I got the same result.
When I went a purchased a SATA DVD drive, I was able to boot and restore the machine. So, it definately looks like RC doesn't have the drivers for USB CD/DVD drives in it.
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Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:33 PM
I'm having the same problem. I receive the blue screen 7B error when using the Recovery Disc ( RC version) on a Lenovo X61 Tablet. (Brand new machine). Another post mentioned that this was related to using the Recovery Disc through an external USB DVD player (the tablet has no internal DVD drive). I can confirm that this is indeed the case. I've tested my recovery DVD on another Lenovo laptop with an internal drive and it worked fine. (So its not a faulty burn issue)
I have also tried doing the restore from a USB thumbdrive having a bootable image of the Recovery CD with the additional drivers found in the "Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore" folder from my last backup. Exact same thing happens.
My 7B error happens a few seconds after the "Microsoft Corporation" scrolling bar appears. I have tried F6 but nothing happens.
Does anyone know if this bug got fixed in the RTM version? I am testing the RC1 version. I can't imagine a product being released where all laptop users with no internal DVD drive can't restore their computers.
Has anyone else been able to successfully use a Recovery Disc from an external DVD drive? If so which one? I was using the Xbox 360 external HD-DVD player, which I have successfuly used to install Windows Vista and Windows XP.
As much as I love this product, I will not be able to buy this if I can't recover my tablet in case of a crash.
Thanks in advance.
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Sunday, September 09, 2007 11:31 PM
I think I narrowed it down to the fact that the SATA controller drivers included in WHS Restore Cd are out of date for my laptop controller. I have tried switching the BIOS setting from SATA Controller Mode=AHCI to =Compatability mode but that didn't help.
How do I update the drivers on the Restore CD (or bootable USB)? Do I simply copy the files to the appropriate windows/system32/* directories?
Note that the bsod happens way before I can load drivers from an additional usb thumbdrive. I need to put these drivers in the original \Windows\system32\ structure.
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 5:17 PMModerator
Has anyone tried placing their SATA controller drivers on a thumb drive?
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Take a thumb drive
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Create a folder called Drivers
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Place the controller drivers there
WinPE pulls drivers from a folder called Drivers on USB thumb drives. See if that helps.
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:38 PMModeratorJoel, if I'm correctly understanding the issue that users are seeing, then they are experiencing the 7B stop error during the WinPE boot sequence. It's my understanding that WinPE will only load additional drivers from USB (or other media) after it finishes booting, not during the boot process. Or did I miss something in the documentation on WinPE?
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 6:52 PMCould this an issue related to not enough Ram, there was a second restore iso on connect for systems with 512m Ram.
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:37 PMModerator
Ken Warren wrote: Joel, if I'm correctly understanding the issue that users are seeing, then they are experiencing the 7B stop error during the WinPE boot sequence. It's my understanding that WinPE will only load additional drivers from USB (or other media) after it finishes booting, not during the boot process. Or did I miss something in the documentation on WinPE? I'm not sure the exact place where WinPE loads the drivers. I just want to make sure all possible steps are covered so I can escalate this issue to the team.
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Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:40 PM
Joel Burt wrote: Has anyone tried placing their SATA controller drivers on a thumb drive?
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Take a thumb drive
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Create a folder called Drivers
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Place the controller drivers there
WinPE pulls drivers from a folder called Drivers on USB thumb drives. See if that helps.
I have tried this and it does not work. Just to make sure I covered all basis, I attempted it three different ways.
i. I copied over the "Windows Home Server Drivers for Restore" folder to the root of the thumbdrive.
ii. Also, I created a folders called DRIVERS in the root of the thumbdrive and then put the contents of the "WHS Drivers for Restore" folder in there.
iii. Also tried just putting the actual .inf, .sys, etc files straight into a DRIVERS folder in the root of the thumbdrive.
Neither method works. What I notice is the computer reading the DVD drive, then the "Microsoft Corporation" with scolling bar appears, then hard disc gets accessed for around 1 sec, then bsod.
I have ALSO tried doing this whole procedure but booting from a thumb drive which I made of the original Restore CD iso. Same error occurs.
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| Ken Warren wrote: | |
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This seems to be correct. In the other machines that I have restored I can use the thumbdrive method to load drivers but that's way later in the process. The bsod happens a few seconds into the booting sequence, very shortly after I see the hard disc light turn on.
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My machine has 4gb of ram. So I don't think it's that.
If you decide to go this route, there are tutorials on the net here and there, some of higher quality, some lesser. Windows Home Server (and the Restore CD) uses WinPE 2.0, so make sure you get an appropriate tutorial. You may have to try several times before you get the right combination of drivers, and I believe you will have to start from the WinPE files that are on the Restore CD, because they are pre-customized for the restore environment.
This isn't an answer for the average end user of WHS, however.
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Ken, Thanks for pointing me down the right path. I will attempt this and report back. One last question, and I don't know if you (or anyone) can answer this. Do you know if there were any changes to the set of drivers included on the Restore CD between the RC1 version and the RTM version? If I can modify WinPE to work then I'll probably buy WHS when it comes out, otherwise I don't think I will. Just wondering if the problem might have already been solved in the RTM version.
Edit: Oh, and don't thank me for the assistance until you've actually succeeded.
I have created an issue with the team to investigate this problem. Here is the internal look up code number: 30220
As for now, if possible, try putting the hard drive in another computer and see if you can restore the image to that drive. Before booting from that hard drive, put it back in the original computer and see if it loads.
I'm going to mark this as answered. In a week or so, unmark my post as answered and reply here asking me about the status of this issue.
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Well, it was worth a shot but this didn't work for me. Here is what I did:
1. Created a base directory structure with WAIK by typing: copype x86 C:\winpe
2. Created a .wim file from the original WHS Restore CD by typing: imagex /capture d: c:\winpe\winpe.wim "My WHS Restore" /boot /verify
3. Mounted the new winpe.wim file: imagex /mountrw winpe.wim 1 mount
4. Added the missing driver: peimg /inf=c:\driver\iaAHCI.inf c:\winpe\mount\windows
At this point I get BSOD. I think the wim file that I create off the WHS Restore CD is somehow protected from such tampering. Not really sure, I need to do some more digging. Do you know if the WHS team has provided a wim image for this sort of debugging? I have a feeling they might not want people tampering with their Restore CD.
Thanks for the info though, learned a lot about how these WinPE CD's are made/used. (Obviously not enough hehe)