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  • jueves, 17 de julio de 2008 12:15Brennon WilliamsMVPMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
     Howdy,

    In the tools options of Messenger, click on the Messages tab. In Message history you can set the location of where to save your conversations which you can meshify a folder to remain synced..

    I have mine setup like this at the moment so all my recieved files etc are also part of it!

    I like the idea of being able to search inside the conversations files etc...

    Cheers

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  • jueves, 17 de julio de 2008 15:43DevDuckMSFT, Usuario que respondeMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    Wow, excellent idea.

    As Brennon says, this should just work though, as Messenger stores its history in a folder on disk (Tools > Options > Messages).  On Vista, the default is C:\Users\<UserName>\Documents\My Received Files\<ID>\History.

    Great idea!
    Richard

    Richard Chung [ Live Mesh ]
  • jueves, 17 de julio de 2008 16:03CKurt Medallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    I'm doing this too ! For now it's via Foldershare, because I Mesh dind't have P2P yet and I didn't change it yet.

    I'm also syncing 'My Downloads' and 'My received Files' so I never have to worry where I received something or where I downloaded it. If I download an installer I now only have to download it once and cam run it on every Mesh machine !
  • jueves, 17 de julio de 2008 20:45Jamie ThomsonMVPMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    DevDuck said:

    Wow, excellent idea.

    As Brennon says, this should just work though, as Messenger stores its history in a folder on disk (Tools > Options > Messages).  On Vista, the default is C:\Users\<UserName>\Documents\My Received Files\<ID>\History.

    Great idea!
    Richard


    Richard Chung [ Live Mesh ]



    Yeah, I'll do that. Mind you, I think the real value is in the searchability. if you can bring that to the Mesh....fantastic.


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  • jueves, 17 de julio de 2008 22:44Jamie ThomsonMVPMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    One thing I suggested on my blog was:

    "Furthermore, once our conversations are stored on the Mesh then we can access them all programatically using the Mesh APIs that will soon be delivered and take that content, our content, and share it to wherever we want to share it to. Perhaps we could choose that our conversations are searchable for other people; perhaps http://search.live.com/messenger becomes a window onto a wealth of thoughts and ideas that until now simply don't exist because they're not recorded anywhere"

    Searchable conversations. That would be SO cool.

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  • domingo, 10 de agosto de 2008 15:41Jamie ThomsonMVPMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
     More on this. I've had my conversations folder linked via Mesh for a few weeks now and have a few more reasons why this isn't a satisfactory solution:

    -If you have a conversation with the same person on  different machines then there is going to be a file conflict. When you resolve that conflict then something will be lost. If Messenger actually took the responsibility of storing stuff on the Mesh (rather than just using Mesh folders) then it can be intelligent about how it merges those conversations and nothing would be lost. [Put more technically in MeshFX terms, every message in a conversation could be a DataEntry, rather than every conversation being a DataEntry]
    -Conversations done on the web using the Messenger web interface (which I know is coming) could be saved to Mesh.
    -Files that are transferred don't get stored. Perhps they could be if Messenger was on the Mesh.
    -Anything done in the Activity window is lost
    -Audio conversations recorded as MP3s
    -Video conversations recorded as WMVs

    DevDuck, I would really appreciate it if you could bring this to the attention of the Messenger folks.

    -Jamie
    http://jamiethomson.spaces.live.com/ | http://blogs.conchango.com/jamiethomson
  • lunes, 11 de agosto de 2008 21:16DevDuckMSFT, Usuario que respondeMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    Agreed.  It would go a long way if WL properties all worked together.

    RE: #1.  I think Messenger saves conversation history into an xml file named <username><randomnumber>.xml.  I thought these files are unique per machine.  (Did you manage to get two Messenger clients writing to the same file?)  This then avoids any file conflicts.

    I used to work on Messenger Server, so I'll see what I can do.  Definitely submit Feedback to Messenger as well!

    Thanks,
    Richard
    Richard Chung [ Live Mesh ]
  • miércoles, 13 de agosto de 2008 9:23Jamie ThomsonMVPMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuarioMedallas del usuario
     
    DevDuck said:

    Agreed.  It would go a long way if WL properties all worked together.

    RE: #1.  I think Messenger saves conversation history into an xml file named <username><randomnumber>.xml.  I thought these files are unique per machine.  (Did you manage to get two Messenger clients writing to the same file?)  This then avoids any file conflicts.

    I used to work on Messenger Server, so I'll see what I can do.  Definitely submit Feedback to Messenger as well!

    Thanks,
    Richard


    Richard Chung [ Live Mesh ]



    Richard,
    I can confirm that they're not unique per machine. I had 2 conversations with someone on 2 different machines this morning and they both went to the same file. hence, conflicts CAN occur.

    I'll submit the feedback.

    Thanks for the reply. Push push push for this...it would be SO cool :)

    cheers
    Jamie

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