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  • domenica 7 giugno 2009 15.42NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    I am using a Pharos Traveler 619, with WM Professional 6.1. My home WiFI is a dLink, which I have running, with WAP security, requiring a network key to access the WiFi.
    I have no problem with my notebook, or two iPod Touch devices accessing the WiFi in the house, but this phone sometimes sees it, soometimes doesn't, it allowed me to connect for a couple of days , but now it keeps reporting the WiFi as unavailable, and cannot connect. Everytime I do try connect, it keeps making me enter all the network information again, and even though I give it all the same selections as before, when it did work, and the correct, case-sensitive network key, it keeps showing it as unavailable.
    Any help in sorting this out would be appreciated, as I would prefer not to use all my data allotment up on the internet, while at home with a perfectly fgood WiFi running.

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  • sabato 25 luglio 2009 13.57Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
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    ... I did try the unplug the router trick, I entered the settings a few times and all of a sudden for no reason it is running.
    That is good news!

    Is there a "wish list" thread somewhere, if not I would like to start one. There is so much available for free, or at 1/2 to 1/4 of the WM prices at the Apple app store an iPhone looks tempting.


    You can post "wish list" in the Suggestion Box area of the forums.  The Windows Mobile team does look there.


    I think I would consider the wifi issue resolved, it seems to be related to the powering down to save battery, and the wifi shutting down. While typing this the phone went to sleep, when I woke it up, the whole thing takes place again, tried re-connecting, no luck, pulled the power on the router, reconnected, and it reconnected by itself.
    OK, then I am marking this as answered for tracking purposes Noel.  Thanks for getting back with the updates.  It appears as if things are working fine so good luck.

    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com

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  • lunedì 8 giugno 2009 21.32Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
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    The next time that happens, try turning off the power to the router, count to 5, then power back up.  Now try connecting with your device and I bet you will be able to connect. (Make sure the laptop and iPods are not connected when you try to reconnect with your device)
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • mercoledì 10 giugno 2009 15.58WMTA3ProprietarioMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Thanks, Jack, for responding!

    Hi Noel - I just wanted to check back with you to see if you have been able to resolve this issue.  If you are still experiencing your Wi-fi issues let us know so we can continue to provide recommendations. Thanks!

    Thank you from the Microsoft Windows Mobile Team
    http://www.WindowsMobile.com/TotalAccess
  • mercoledì 10 giugno 2009 21.41NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Thanks to both of you for your suggestion and follow up. I spoke with Pharos, about this issue and a battery indicator problem. Tech support felt both were an indication of a faulty device, and suggested I return it to the vendor. I arranged an exchange, and am waiting for a new phone.
    I will check back in here once I have the new phone, hopefully the replacement won't have the problem.
    I have only been dabbling in WM for a bit over a week, but I think I am going to enjoy it.
    Wish I could sync all my Thunderbird contacts witht he device, as we quit using Outlook at work.

    Noel
  • giovedì 11 giugno 2009 17.01Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Thanks to both of you for your suggestion and follow up. I spoke with Pharos, about this issue and a battery indicator problem. Tech support felt both were an indication of a faulty device, and suggested I return it to the vendor. I arranged an exchange, and am waiting for a new phone.
    Ok, well good luck with it when it arrives. 


    I have only been dabbling in WM for a bit over a week, but I think I am going to enjoy it.
    I think you will enjoy it ... I do, that is why I still use Windows Mobile (and why I try to help others when they need some assistance).
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • mercoledì 17 giugno 2009 23.11WMTA3ProprietarioMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     

    Looks like this issue can be closed for now.  Marking issues as "answered" will help other customers searching for answers see the solutions suggested and resolution on your threads, even if the resolution is temporary.   

    Should you still have questions when your new device arrives, we can still provide additional information and tips when you come back to this thread with more information and/or an update on the device.  When you come back "Unmark as Answer" and post an update. This thread stays viewable and accessible for additional postings either way.

    Thank you for participating in the Windows Mobile Forums!


    Thank you from the Microsoft Windows Mobile Team
    http://www.WindowsMobile.com/TotalAccess
  • giovedì 18 giugno 2009 3.40NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    OK, I am back, I just got the replacement phone yesterday, and have been experiencing the same issue as raised before. it will connect to the wifi router, and lets me get on the internet. It seems like once the screen shuts off to save power, it has a hard time finding the connection again. I tried unplugging the router power for 5 seconds and plugging it back it, but that made no difference. Now it shows my wifi as unavailable, and won't connect at all. I know the signal is good, and I am quyite close to the router, the network key is correct, and in the proper case. I am using WPA-PSK authentication, TKIP encryption, the network key seems to be save when I get to that screen, does it need to be re-entered each time? I just tried it with re-entering, and it connected, not sure for how long though.

    The other problem is the wifi sees a signal from a neighbour's wifi, and it keeps trying to use that one as well, which is no good as I have not got the network key. Is there any way to ignore a particular wifi and delete it from the available list?
    • Contrassegnato come rispostaNoelHC venerdì 19 giugno 2009 0.06
    • Contrassegno come risposta annullatoWMTA3Proprietariosabato 20 giugno 2009 3.14
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  • venerdì 19 giugno 2009 14.04Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Noel, you marked your last post as "answered" ... not sure why.  Is it solved for you?

    As for showing your neighbor's WiFi, it will see it as available.  You can go into Setting /WiFi and see it on the list.  If you press on it, you will see a list of available options, one of which is to Remove Settings.  It should delete it from the list.  However, it will probably reappear the next time but I do not think it will connect.  Unfortunately I can't test that right now because I only have my own network available ... there are no others around.
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • venerdì 19 giugno 2009 17.27NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    I was trying to do what WMTA3 instructed above "When you come back "Unmark as Answer" and post an update. " I couldn't see how to unmark an answer.

    The wifi connection on the new phone is better than the original one, but it still is intermittent. It seems to be related to the screen turning off to save power, when it turns back on the connection has been dropped. Sometimes it will find it all by itself, sometimes I have to make it reconnect, and sometimes when I do that, it takes me through the whole set up process again, requiring me to select WAP, TSIK, and enter the network key.
    One other strange thing, when doing that the network is filled in, all *****, and it is 3 more characters than the actual key. It seems to help to delete them and re-enter the key. Good thing I finally have it memorized, I have typed it in so many times.
  • sabato 20 giugno 2009 3.17WMTA3ProprietarioMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Hi Noel,

    Thanks for coming back and giving an update. Sorry you are still experiencing your issue. I unmarked your post as answered since you are still having issues. Please keep us updated so we can continue to assist.
    Thank you from the Microsoft Windows Mobile Team
    http://www.WindowsMobile.com/TotalAccess
  • sabato 20 giugno 2009 14.28Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     

    One other strange thing, when doing that the network is filled in, all *****, and it is 3 more characters than the actual key.

    That is just a security feature to prevent others from figuring out your password
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • sabato 20 giugno 2009 14.29Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    I was trying to do what WMTA3 instructed above "When you come back "Unmark as Answer" and post an update. " I couldn't see how to unmark an answer.

    That is what I thought but was afraid to change it in case I was wrong.  WMTA3 changed it for you.
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • sabato 20 giugno 2009 14.31Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Sometimes it will find it all by itself, sometimes I have to make it reconnect, and sometimes when I do that, it takes me through the whole set up process again, requiring me to select WAP, TSIK, and enter the network key.
    In my case, if that happens it will NOT accept it and I have to turn my Router off then on.  Then it connects!

    BTW, if you find a FREE hotspot, can you connect without issue?
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • venerdì 26 giugno 2009 22.48WMTA1ProprietarioMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    Hi Noel,

    Just checking back with you to see if you had any luck in resolving your issue.  Jack had asked for some additional information in his post above.  Let us know if you have been able to resolve the issue.

    Thanks!
    Thank you from the Microsoft Windows Mobile Team
    http://www.WindowsMobile.com/TotalAccess
  • giovedì 2 luglio 2009 14.00NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    It appears the first phone I had did have a defect. After replacing it with a new one in exchange, I have found this problem is not quite as prevalent. I have been away from home and the wifi there that keeps needing me to re-enter the info, so I haven't had a chance to experiment with powering down the router. However while traveling europe last week, when I was around free wifi services, the device seemed to find them without problems.

    Thanks for all the suggestions.
    Noel
  • martedì 7 luglio 2009 18.40Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    OK, well good luck Noel.  If you have the time, let me know if it works at home when you return.
    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com
  • mercoledì 8 luglio 2009 15.18NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    I was on the phone manufacturer's website, and saw a note in their forum about an update for my phone, which was to fix a speaker issue, and an unidentified wi-fi issue. I downloaded it to the phone, and will see what happens. Wi-fi connectivity with the replacement phone has been much better, so the first phone was probably faulty.

    I will advise if this OS update has made any difference when I get a chance to check it out.
  • venerdì 10 luglio 2009 14.13Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
  • sabato 25 luglio 2009 3.49NoelHC Medaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
     
    An update, of sorts. I did download the update I mentioned. it screwed up my GPS, which caused me to have to do a hard reset, and lose all my settings. Got the GPS back, got the wifi working at home, most of the time,it just went through the nonsense described earlier, I did try the unplug the router trick, I entered the settings a few times and all of a sudden for no reason it is running.
    It still refuses to see an open wifi running in the office, every device I have with wifi, such as my Ipod Touch and notebook, and my netbook jump on it, no problems, this phone does not see it at all, even if I type in the name and force it. Bizarre.

    On my wish list for the next version of Windows Mobile, a wifi that finds wifi, and just asks for the network key if it is secure like my Touch does. I also have a wifi finder app (free) which is great for sniffing out every wifi in the neighbourhood. WM 6.1, not so much.

    One other item on the WM next version shopping list, a calculator that can be used in scientific mode, just as every version of Windows PC had right back to the copy of Windows 2 I had.

    Is there a "wish list" thread somewhere, if not I would like to start one. There is so much available for free, or at 1/2 to 1/4 of the WM prices at the Apple app store an iPhone looks tempting.

    I think I would consider the wifi issue resolved, it seems to be related to the powering down to save battery, and the wifi shutting down. While typing this the phone went to sleep, when I woke it up, the whole thing takes place again, tried re-connecting, no luck, pulled the power on the router, reconnected, and it reconnected by itself.
  • sabato 25 luglio 2009 13.57Jack Cook - aka Help_LineMVP, ModeratoreMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utenteMedaglie utente
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    ... I did try the unplug the router trick, I entered the settings a few times and all of a sudden for no reason it is running.
    That is good news!

    Is there a "wish list" thread somewhere, if not I would like to start one. There is so much available for free, or at 1/2 to 1/4 of the WM prices at the Apple app store an iPhone looks tempting.


    You can post "wish list" in the Suggestion Box area of the forums.  The Windows Mobile team does look there.


    I think I would consider the wifi issue resolved, it seems to be related to the powering down to save battery, and the wifi shutting down. While typing this the phone went to sleep, when I woke it up, the whole thing takes place again, tried re-connecting, no luck, pulled the power on the router, reconnected, and it reconnected by itself.
    OK, then I am marking this as answered for tracking purposes Noel.  Thanks for getting back with the updates.  It appears as if things are working fine so good luck.

    Jack Cook
    http://www.experiencemobility.net
    http://www.mobilitysite.com