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Bloqueado VPN Add-In?

  • sexta-feira, 30 de novembro de 2007 02:09
     
     

    It'd be great if there was an add-in to setup VPN on WHS and manage connections.  Maybe automatic (or manual if needed) router configuration.  This should allow some basic management such as kick the user or ban connection, etc.  I realize that the VPN connection would need to be setup on the client side manaully.  But the process to setup VPN on the server can be a bit tedious and confusing.  Is there any possibiliy someone out there would be interested in creating and add-in for this?

     

    It would be great for family members in remote locatons to be able to connect through VPN and have their files backed up remotely using the WHS Connector software just as if they were on the local network.  I definitely don't have the knowledge to do this myself, but maybe someone here does.  What do you say?  Anyone wanna give it a shot?

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  • sexta-feira, 30 de novembro de 2007 08:05
     
     

     

    Yes, it would be a great plugin. The "easy" workaround use actually is using Hamachi VPN software. It's very easy to setup and you can set it up as a service on the WHS(search the Utorrent Add-in thread) .

     

    I am backing up my family computers with this.

  • domingo, 2 de dezembro de 2007 14:45
     
     
     mpalermo wrote:

    It'd be great if there was an add-in to setup VPN on WHS and manage connections.  Maybe automatic (or manual if needed) router configuration.  This should allow some basic management such as kick the user or ban connection, etc.  I realize that the VPN connection would need to be setup on the client side manaully.  But the process to setup VPN on the server can be a bit tedious and confusing.  Is there any possibiliy someone out there would be interested in creating and add-in for this?

     

    It would be great for family members in remote locatons to be able to connect through VPN and have their files backed up remotely using the WHS Connector software just as if they were on the local network.  I definitely don't have the knowledge to do this myself, but maybe someone here does.  What do you say?  Anyone wanna give it a shot?

     

    You could try setting up a VPN with Routing and Remote Access.  I did that once before on a normal W2K3 server and it should work on here as well.

     

    Although you do need to disable your windows firewall. On second thought, unless you have two nics you may have some issues.

  • sexta-feira, 7 de dezembro de 2007 12:04
     
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    From the FWIW department...

     

    I run a SSH server on my WHS for an emergency remote back channel in case I need to do maintenance, etc and the WHS console is not accessible for whatever reason. In my case I only allow access via SSH by a standard user and require the use of a private/public key pair protected by a strong password for authentication. That works well for me since I can run Remote Desktop through the SSH tunnel and perform maintenance, reconfigure, reboot, etc.

     

    http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,19561192?hilite=

     

    This fellow, Scott, posted a procedure for setting up a PPTP VPN or OpenVPN server function on a WHS. Note you only need one NIC on the WHS in order to do either.

     

    http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsHomeServer/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=2506018&SiteID=50

  • sábado, 15 de março de 2008 14:33
     
     
    Why make life complicated with add-in, firewall setup, port opening and the rest of the 'let me stress about being hacked' all day ?

    I use WallCooler (http://www.vedivi.com) as my personal VPN. It's not a server/client VPN with the usual requirements of public ip for the server and loss of local lan connectivity for the client but rather the new concept of pure SSL VPN: install the soft on your win3k box, login and forget about it (it runs as a service).

    When you want to connect home, run WallCooler on your laptop and it will automatically  connect home. The connections are made via relay servers so there is no need to waiste time configuring routers and firewalls. I also use it the other way around, i.e. home->office.
  • sábado, 15 de março de 2008 16:33
     
     
     Atomusk wrote:

     

    Yes, it would be a great plugin. The "easy" workaround use actually is using Hamachi VPN software. It's very easy to setup and you can set it up as a service on the WHS(search the Utorrent Add-in thread) .

     

    I am backing up my family computers with this.

     

    Second for Hamachi (http://hamachi.cc) as a workable VPN solution.  The client is free, and works securely point to point.  I had to go on a business trip, and used Hamachi on my laptop, it ended up communicating with WHS via the Hamachi link, and backed itself up each night, just asif it were sitting at home. 

     

     

  • sexta-feira, 28 de março de 2008 03:59
     
     

     I searched the Utorrent Add-in thread and downloaded the zip file for it.  I just wanna make sure I'm not missing anything:  I just need to go over the pdf document to set hamachi as a service?

     

    Also, I haven't purchased a home server yet.  Would I be able to do this with a HP home server, because from my understanding you cannot log in on the console because it has no video card?

  • sexta-feira, 28 de março de 2008 05:54
     
     

    Just cruising the threads and thought I'd jump in and ask a few questions.  First, what is VPN and 2nd, why would it be any different than just doing a remote access to WHS?

     

    Thanks in advance,

     

    SilkRod

  • sexta-feira, 28 de março de 2008 15:25
     
     
    A virtual private network (VPN) is a communications network tunneled through another network, and dedicated for a specific network. One common application is secure communications through the public Internet, but a VPN need not have explicit security features, such as authentication or content encryption. VPNs, for example, can be used to separate the traffic of different user communities over an underlying network with strong security features. (From wikipedia.com)

     

    For example.  If you live in New York, and you backup your own network of computers, but if you have a family member that lives in Florida and you wanted to back-up there pc to your Home Server you could do that via VPN.  A VPN connection will make it look like that PC is sitting there at your house, on your home network because it is on your network, just far away.  It be easier than using remote access because i believe you have to do that manually.  If your VPN is connected then it should backup their computer automatically.

  • sexta-feira, 28 de março de 2008 18:35
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    Please note that, while you can back up over a VPN, including something like Hamachi, you will not be able to restore an entire PC over a VPN connection that requires client software. You could probably do so over a permanent router-to-router connection however.
  • sexta-feira, 11 de abril de 2008 22:21
     
     

    Hi Ken,

     

    I'm interested in the VPN as backup issue and I wondered if you'd be so kind as to give me some advice on it. 

     

    I've already got Hamachi premium running on my WHS as a service and I'm able to remote access the WHS as administrator through it. 

     

    What I can't seem to grasp is how to backup over the VPN.  I can enter into the WHS console remotely, but the computer I am using is greyed out in the list so I can't run a backup.

     

    Connector is installed and all other settings are fine I think, do you know what I can do to make this work, I'd really appreciate a guide on this.

     

    regards,    Mark

  • sábado, 12 de abril de 2008 12:46
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    I'm not doing this; I don't see the need to back up a PC v-e-r-y s-l-o-w-l-y over the Internet. Smile Maybe someone who has done this will jump in, but in general, you probably need to make sure that the IP addresses being handed out by your VPN are in the same subnet as other IP addresses on your network. I would guess that they aren't in the same subnet, and as a result, you have access to your server itself (which, as the VPN server is really multi-homed) but not other services.
  • sábado, 12 de abril de 2008 14:09
     
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    Thanks for your reply Ken- I appreciate your interest.  However, I've found another way to make it work on the wegotserved forums. When you've set up a Hamachi VPN you need to make your client rediscover the WHS.  The way to do this is to open RUN and type:

     

    C:\Program Files\Windows Home Server\Discovery.exe

     

    It works!  Within a couple of seconds, the client finds the WHS through the VPN and WHS shows the client as being on the local network.  This doesn't neeed to be redone. 

     

    An advantage of this is that it allows you access to your WHS console without going through the remote access website.  And of course, it allows you to do backups over the internet.  It's best to have backuped up the client locally first, so that when you backup over the internet you are just backing up changes.

     

    My WHS is situated in my town-centre office, where I have a couple of client PCs, but I sometimes spend days working a couple of miles away at home instead.  Using VPN, I can create WHS backups from home.  If doomsday arrives, then I can take my home client into the office to operate a WHS client restore. 

     

    Cheers, Mark

     

     

     

     

  • sexta-feira, 27 de junho de 2008 03:52
     
     
    Forgive me if I am wrong, but shouldn't you have a static ip address assigned to your internet modem before using vpn and then use dhcp at the gateway/router/hub/etc...  That way there is a dedicated ip address.
  • sexta-feira, 27 de junho de 2008 04:02
     
     

    if your using himatchi i don't think you need to.  It just uses the client you install to connect you to your VPN.  Its not exactly a true VPN.

     

    for a real VPN you would want a dedicated static ip address.  Then you would need a router/switch that is able to do VPN.

     

    and it isn't that slow as long as you do the first backup on local network.  If you download or install a bunch of stuff that would also slow it down.  But pictures and documents may take just a little bit to back up over the internet.  it all depends how much stuff you add or change since the last backup.

     

  • terça-feira, 5 de agosto de 2008 16:22
     
     
    OK, the best possible way to sum up the Hamachi software is HOLY *** is that easy...I listen to my music collection everywhere I go (FireFly before ten minutees ago).  I also like to acccess photos from my homeserver using Windows Photo Gallery...Problem is when I am away from the house but now I simply don't miss a beat.  I used to have to convert my zune playlists to firelfy and vice versa but now it just works everywhere I go...Awesome. 
  • quinta-feira, 4 de dezembro de 2008 21:23
     
     
    Another way to boost speed and backups time is to defrag.  Try Diskeeper, the're the best.