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    In the latest platform, I am suddenly listed as "Microsoft Partner" - where does that information come from and how can I change it?
    Erik Ejlskov Jensen, MCTS: WM App, MCITP: SQL 2008 Dev - http://erikej.blogspot.com Please mark as answer, if this was it.
    Saturday, April 25, 2009 11:40 AM

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    Hi Erik,
    This is a new program we've added to forums for users belonging to the Microsoft Partner program, I've forwarded this to the appropriate people to see why you were added if you weren't suppose to be, hopefully we'll have it resolved real soon!

    thanks for your patience,
    Sam
    Sam Jarawan - Senior Development Lead - Server and Tools Online
    Saturday, April 25, 2009 5:03 PM
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    The problem is that the Microsoft Partner program is so uncontrolled that this doesn't really say anything useful.

    I am a Microsoft partner - just me. I pay nothing and I'm at the very lowest level but no doubt if I wasn't an MVP (and thus am listed as such in the location where otherwise "Microsoft Partner"), I too would be listed in my forum posts as a Microsoft Partner.

    Which would be a farce.

    All the beginners you are looking out for will imagine when they see this that the person in question is at the very least a member of a company who is a Gold Partner of Microsoft. They will then assign a level of credibility to the question that they wouldn't give to an answer from Fred.

    If you are going to do this at all, make sure at least that the person you are designating as Microsoft Partner is a fee-paying partner, preferably a high-level fee-paying partner.

    Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:38 PM
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    Hi Sam, I am working for a Gold Partner  I was just wondering what it was.
    I feel it is of little benefit to forums users to know I work for a Partner Company.
    I am also a (recent) MVP which is not (yet) reflected.
    Erik Ejlskov Jensen, MCTS: WM App, MCITP: SQL 2008 Dev - http://erikej.blogspot.com Please mark as answer, if this was it.
    Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:35 PM
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    Mike, I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be the Gold Partners, not the lower level free partnership.
    Matt Fraser, STO Forums Software Developer
    Sunday, April 26, 2009 5:12 AM
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    I was making assumptions basing on the number of people (and the kind of posts) who are now so marked in the forums I monitor.

    There's of course no guarantee that a member of even a Gold Partner can provide authoritative replies - especially in forums that are for things they don't specialize in - but at least that restriction keeps the numbers down. After I spotted this the first time I had the impression (probably wrong) that every second poster was marked as a Microsoft Partner (and some are asking not too difficult questions ...)

    But thanks for taking the trouble to reply, Matt. Perhaps you could check this ?


    P.S. Sorry for the dup (now deleted) but the system seems to be producing these on a regular basis at the moment (for new posts and moves and edits). I only clicked once (imo). 
    Sunday, April 26, 2009 7:09 AM
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    Yeah, please add an option to turn this "Microsoft Partner" thing off.

    It is irrelevant and implies connections/affiliations that don't exist. My company is just a 'registered partner' (lowest level) and besides occassional calls from MSFT telemarketers (who usually hang up on me when I try to speak english with them) there's no real connection between my company and the local Microsoft organization.
     
    Kristofer - Huagati Systems Co., Ltd. - www.huagati.com - Cool tools for Linq-to-SQL and Entity Framework: www.huagati.com/dbmltools
    • Edited by KristoferA Monday, April 27, 2009 3:32 AM
    Monday, April 27, 2009 3:29 AM
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    There's a recent post in the mvp private newsgroup (program connection) from someone who owns a company that is a Microsoft Gold Partner and she too makes the point that she does not when replying in the forums post as a Partner but as herself and that she wants to keep the two roles completely separate. (Paraphrasing and going from memory)
    Tuesday, April 28, 2009 7:01 AM
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    One more point to consider: it's actually the information about my employment or selfemployment. I may (and want to) to consider it quite confidential. (isn't it in fact?)
    And it's really irrelevant as KristoferA said: I'm working for MS partner, but even not in business dept but in business support dept. And I answer on the forum as myself, not on my company behalf.
    http://komatozo.blogspot.com
    Wednesday, April 29, 2009 6:03 PM
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    Another point. The "MVP" addition to names also has some of the same problems.

    1: Are the people marked as MVPs only those who are publically listed? Otherwise this " I may (and want to) to consider it quite confidential." from the previous post comes into play.

    2: "MVP" like "Microsoft Partner" is only an indication of *possible* expertise. The MVP may be posting in a forum for a product he/she knows little about. Is it possible to instead say something like "SharePoint MVP" or "VC MVP" ? You would no doubt need to set up a cross-reference table between the actual full-name and the above short form, but this would be once only and the accuracy of the information given to forum users would increase.


    But in the short term, as no-one here seems to like having "Microsoft Partner" added to their posts, isn't there a strong case for its removal ? 


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    Thursday, April 30, 2009 4:32 AM
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    ...or just make the field after the name editable, just like the signature. That makes it easier for everyone whether they want to indicate their membership in the Microsoft Partner program / MVP / SCJP / Bavarian Illuminati / etc
    Kristofer - Huagati Systems Co., Ltd. - www.huagati.com - Cool tools for Linq-to-SQL and Entity Framework: www.huagati.com/dbmltools
    Thursday, April 30, 2009 5:43 AM
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    I have it under my name and I'm just a registered partner

    I don't see no-one, I just see a few users in a short thread. Personally I don't mind, however I feel it may be more useful to have MCDST, MCTS, MCITP etc under your name.
    MCDST
    MCITP - Enterprise Support Technician - Charter Member
    MCTS - Vista Configuration - Charter Member
    MCTS - Volume Licensing Specialist, Small and Medium Organizations - Charter Member
    MCITP - Consumer Support Technician
    MCTS - Windows Server 2008, Active Directory Configuration
    Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:25 AM
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    To Mike: yeah, the point exists. Some thoughts on it:
    1) Yes there was some not very pleasant feel about stating that I was an MVP without consulting to me. But I for sure can't compare the information about receiving an award (somebody heard about the guy who don't want to be known as an Oscar nominee?? =))) ) with the information about my amployment. And there is another issue which was discussed between our local MVPs under NDA...
    2) Exectly. I couldn't fit my opinion into the words in the better way than you did.
    http://komatozo.blogspot.com
    Thursday, April 30, 2009 8:52 AM
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    As you can see I have the Partner title, but I am self-employed, have worked for clients and companies that were Partners and may have been included in some way.

    I would suggest removing it entirely or create a new field that allows the user to place a specific set of technology disciplines (.NET, DBA, Platform Engineer, etc). This would create an even level of a peer community. I don't think it reflects accurately my invovlement. On our own, I believe, is the best way to promote our resume, and at our discretion.

    Greg L. Wright | SnapJag.com | IT Consultant
    Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:11 PM