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Vote option for "off-topic". RRS feed

  • Question

  • What about another option in the Vote drop-down for "off-topic"?  Moderators of the particular forum could be notified or check for off-topic threads and move them to another place.

    Cheers -- Peter
    http://www.peterRitchie.com/blog
    Monday, June 2, 2008 1:31 PM

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  • Interesting idea. I can see how that could help, rather than relying on moderators spotting everything.

    Matt
    Matt Fraser, STO Forums Software Developer
    • Proposed as answer by carlpro Sunday, June 8, 2008 5:32 AM
    Monday, June 2, 2008 6:09 PM
  • Another way it would help is to make it a more polite way to communicate the idea that there are defined topics that should be respected. Some people resent being told to go someplace else (note that I do say it more politely than that).

    An additional convenience would be a way for the person voting to select what forum would be more appropriate, but I realize that would be too complicated to implement. If however when a thread is flagged as off-topic the thread creator could get something suggesting use of the Where Is The Forum For forum, then that would help.

    Another use of a off-topic vote is filtering; we could filter out threads that have been voted (by multiple person and/or by a moderator) as being off-topic. Then if users know that their thread might be ignored, they will be more likely to respect the designated topics.

    One thing in particular I see is that VC language questions are asked in the VC general forum, and it would be just as easy to use the correct forum, yet people resent being told rules such as that. So as I said, it would really help if people were told in a manner that is more official.
    Sam Hobbs; see my SimpleSamples.Info
    Sunday, March 29, 2009 6:19 PM
  • I don't think it's necessary. I can tell an off-topic question usually from the Title. So as I check all the first posts of threads that I haven't yet read (i.e. the titles are in bold still) - I see immediately not only if they are off-topic but from the text where I need to move them to. (Note that I always post a reply first saying why I am moving them (from/to)

    I don't think having this will be of any help to Moderators and may even cause them more work (just as allowing people to Propose their own posts causes Moderators more work today). 


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    Sunday, March 29, 2009 8:11 PM
  • Adding to the previous post. I DO think there is a difference between allowing Propose as Answer (by people other than the poster) and allowing "Propose as Off-topic".


    Propose as Answer means that the reader needs to read the post. I.e. such a propose **by a known third-party** saves the moderator's time as he doesn't in such cases need to read the entire post in detail. It's also a simple process for the moderator of clicking on Mark as an Answer. It's an answer *in that forum*.

    Marking as Off-Topic typically only means the need to read the Title. Reading titles doesn't take up much of a moderator's time and less than moderating posts that are marked "proposed as Off-Topic" would take. The moderator needs to read the titles of the posts anyway.

    In addition the main time-consumer is on occasion deciding which forum a post should be moved to. The Moderator(s) tends to be the only one who knows where he/they has set up the borderlines for which post goes to which "sub-section" so all the proposer can do is say "Off-topic" not "Off-topic should go to X". As above, this simple "propose as off-topic" wouldn't save Moderators' time.

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    Monday, March 30, 2009 7:40 AM
  • Actually it could save a lot of moderator's time. Just one instance won't make a difference, but most people will quickly get the message and stop posting off-topic posts, or at least most of them. That will quickly reduce the number of off-topic posts. Do you not think that would help?

    Of course, it won't help in forums such as the VC forums since moderators don't do anything about off-topic posts. For forums such as those, it could have an affect where the moderators don't even try to do anything.

    And you just don't get what I said about making a suggestion about what forum would be on-topic. You are only thinking in terms of moderators and what would or would not help moderators. Think in terms of what the typical response is to off-topic posts.

     
    Sam Hobbs; see my SimpleSamples.Info
    Monday, March 30, 2009 5:07 PM
  • You can save the moderator a lot of time by telling the OP where to go for a good answer.  So the moderator can just move the thread off topic instead of having to find an alternative by himself.  An off-topic vote is the exact opposite of helpful, it is a lazy act by a contributor, putting pressure on a moderator to keep up.  No thanks.
    Hans Passant.
    Monday, March 30, 2009 5:58 PM
  • You can save the moderator a lot of time by telling the OP where to go for a good answer.  So the moderator can just move the thread off topic instead of having to find an alternative by himself.  An off-topic vote is the exact opposite of helpful, it is a lazy act by a contributor, putting pressure on a moderator to keep up.  No thanks.

    That is totally irrelevant for the VC forums where moderators don't do anything about off-topic posts. Nearly all off-topic posts belong in one of the two Windows programming forums. The sticky for the forums need to be revised to suggest the forums; they (the sticky for at least one of the two forums) just suggest the newsgrouups, without specifying a specific newsgroup. From my point of view, if laziness exists, there is a huge act of laziness by the moderators in those forums that you, Peter and I are active in. Peter's suggestion can help in forums such as that where help is desparately needed.

    I have also made suggestions (elsewhere) for making it easier to insert links that are often used. I am interested in helping to develop a solution such as that. I think however a good solution is for the stickies describing the scope of a forum to be more thorough about the most common alternatives for questions that are common topics that are often off-topic in the relevant forum.

    What solution do you suggest for the many Windows programming questions in the VC langauge forum?
    Sam Hobbs; see my SimpleSamples.Info
    Monday, March 30, 2009 7:38 PM
  • Good Suggession.
    Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:51 AM