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  • I have my main storage pool of 341 GB of space, but would like to install several external hardrives to store data. Is there a way that I can configure the server to put the server backups on external drive #1 and then have all client backups stored on external drive #2? The reason for this is I have my main storage pool set up as a raid 5 (unsupported by WHS), and would like to keep all of the shared files on this drive pool, but there will not be enough space to also store all of the different client and server backup in this same pool. The possability of the server and a cilent failing on the same day is not highly likely. If one of the external drives were to fail, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, however if my main storage pool failed, I would lose all of my files.

    The main idea of a file and print server is to protect the files, not to protect the client backup's (at least in my opinion) If I did lose the client backups, not a big deal, but if I lost all of my files, I would be extreamly upset.

    How do I handle this?
    Hardware avalable:
    Raid 5, 341 GB, SYS and DATA stoarge drive
    500 GB external
    750 GB external
    300-350 GB of data files (not including any client backups)
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:24 PM

Answers

  • There is no way to force the server to use particular drives for particular purposes, with the exception of a server backup drive (which can be used to back up some or all of the server shares). Backups are stored in the server's storage pool.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:36 PM
    Moderator
  • Have you installed Windows Home Server? If so, then you know that it has a hard lower limit of approximately 70 GB for the system drive, which will be partitioned into a 20 GB system partition and an "everything else" partition that's the start of the storage pool. There's really no way to change this behavior...

    As for the rest, have you read the marketing materials and technical briefs available through the Windows Home Server minisite? If not, you should. Doing so will answer some questions, and leave you with others. :)

    Specific answers: VMs aren't supported. You can install in a VM, at a certain cost in performance. Hosting a production Windows Home Server VM will require you to dedicate a lot of disk space to the VHDs, so using Windows Home Server itself as the host for another WHS instance may not be the best plan (VHDs should be kept out of the storage pool). But it can be done.

    You will not, however, be able to split the Windows Home Server specific functions to two separate servers. A client computer is joined to a specific server when you install the connector, and that's the only one it will back up to, that the media center connector will work with, etc. Shares are fine, however.

    That you have many computers is interesting, but perhaps not useful. :) Windows Home Server really wants to be a bulk storage source, and you doubtless also have many small SCSI hard drives, which make bulk storage kind of difficult. You should consider obtaining a couple of large SATA drives, and a SATA controller, and using those in your server instead of most of the SCSI drives.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:31 PM
    Moderator

All replies

  • There is no way to force the server to use particular drives for particular purposes, with the exception of a server backup drive (which can be used to back up some or all of the server shares). Backups are stored in the server's storage pool.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:36 PM
    Moderator
  • At this point I have not moved any of my data files over to the server, since I have not find a way to handle this problem. I was hoping that WHS would give me a way to safely handle all of my data, and allow my to back it up without having to buy more hardware.

    I would just drop two larger drives in Raid 1, and use an external drive to shadow copy the data, however the server only supports SCSI harddrives, and to upgrade to six 300GB SCSI drives (largest SCSI drives avalable) would cost around $1800 for only 1,400 GB of space (in a raid 5) (hence why most people don't run SCSI drives)

    The server was a freebe, and I would love to make use if it, just having a hard time figuring out how to make it work with WHS and all of my data.
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:39 PM
  • There is no way to force the server to use particular drives for particular purposes, with the exception of a server backup drive (which can be used to back up some or all of the server shares). Backups are stored in the server's storage pool.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)

    So basiclly I will run out of room on the server's main pool of 341 GB after all of the client PC's are backed up.

    Banging Head On Desk
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 6:43 PM
  • Ok, how about this idea:

    Setup two WHS and have one do all of the F&P, and have the 2nd server handle all of the backup's? (on two different computers, or on two different virtual servers)

    Can WHS run as a virtual machine? then I could install it twice on this server, setup the 2nd version to only have a 20GB harddrive, and add an external to it's storage pool so that it could run all of the client backups?

    I have three different Dual CPU computers/servers that I got for free, but all of them are SCSI only, unless I install an external drive. It just doesn't make since to buy more hardware, when I have around 20 computers already here that I can use for parts. I even have a HP MediaServer that is only the case (was a Circuit City dummy display).
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:00 PM
  • Have you installed Windows Home Server? If so, then you know that it has a hard lower limit of approximately 70 GB for the system drive, which will be partitioned into a 20 GB system partition and an "everything else" partition that's the start of the storage pool. There's really no way to change this behavior...

    As for the rest, have you read the marketing materials and technical briefs available through the Windows Home Server minisite? If not, you should. Doing so will answer some questions, and leave you with others. :)

    Specific answers: VMs aren't supported. You can install in a VM, at a certain cost in performance. Hosting a production Windows Home Server VM will require you to dedicate a lot of disk space to the VHDs, so using Windows Home Server itself as the host for another WHS instance may not be the best plan (VHDs should be kept out of the storage pool). But it can be done.

    You will not, however, be able to split the Windows Home Server specific functions to two separate servers. A client computer is joined to a specific server when you install the connector, and that's the only one it will back up to, that the media center connector will work with, etc. Shares are fine, however.

    That you have many computers is interesting, but perhaps not useful. :) Windows Home Server really wants to be a bulk storage source, and you doubtless also have many small SCSI hard drives, which make bulk storage kind of difficult. You should consider obtaining a couple of large SATA drives, and a SATA controller, and using those in your server instead of most of the SCSI drives.


    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:31 PM
    Moderator