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    Can these recognition points and achievement medals be used to achieve something really useful? Like earning a MSFT certification or a better reconginition that can help an individual career?

     

    Govardhan Gunnala Windows Technologist
    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:32 AM

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    I know there are mixed feelings about the MVP and MCC status but the recognition data will be used to help drive those programs. It can also help in a career if employers are looking at your contributions to a technical online community and you have the evidence for the work you've done. On top of that, we are looking at how we may use the recognition for more tangible benefits but are nowhere near any decisions...

    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:57 PM

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    No.

    See: "Forums Recognition Update Coming July 14th 2011".

    Regards,
    Vincenzo Di Russo
    Microsoft® MVP Windows Internet Explorer, Windows & Security Expert - since 2003.
    Moderator in the Microsoft Answers and TechNet Forums
    My MVP Profile: https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Vincenzo
    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 12:24 PM
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    so, all the recognition is within the community and not going to add much value to the individual?

    All I am trying to understand is how useful/beneficial (to me/individual) the efforts spent on the community here.

    Govardhan Gunnala Windows Technologist
    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 2:02 PM
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    I know there are mixed feelings about the MVP and MCC status but the recognition data will be used to help drive those programs. It can also help in a career if employers are looking at your contributions to a technical online community and you have the evidence for the work you've done. On top of that, we are looking at how we may use the recognition for more tangible benefits but are nowhere near any decisions...

    Tuesday, July 26, 2011 4:57 PM
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    Thanks for that helpful details.

     

    >  On top of that, we are looking at how we may use the recognition for more tangible benefits but are nowhere near any decisions...

    Given the ever growing priorities of IT individuals, I think there should be appropriate benefits worth the efforts of the individuals spent on the community out of their priorities.  Request you to pass this suggestion to the appropriate authority of MSFT responsible for making decisions in this regard. 

     

     

     

    Govardhan Gunnala Windows Technologist
    Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:42 AM
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    I'm responsible for it so I've heard you :)
    Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:29 PM
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    Thank you for that assurance. I look forward to hear a supporting response from you in this regard.  
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    Hi Sean

    I am aware that you are conducting more arduous effort to better establish appropriate mechanisms for motivating and recognizing the contribution of experts and novices (as I) in these conflicts of the contribution to the community. Therefore I express my sincere congratulations, not only because it is not an easy task, but ungrateful. Because having everyone happy is impossible. But really, in my opinion, this all comes down to an issue of knowledge management.

    But at the same time, I think it is important to remain receptive to proposals that although they may seem complex development may end up providing valuable horizons.

    Microsoft has a vast worldwide recognition as a leading technology and knowledge, undoubtedly, and all that prestige has to be worth when you give academic recognition.

    Hereby may provide awards to teachers and students as:

    Certificate course approval (No. credits): Word, Excel, VB, etc.

    Title technologist (No credits)

    Professional title (No credits)

    Title specialization (No credits): database administration, software development, etc..

     Master's degree (No loans), by bringing several majors

    Where can accumulate credits through various media contributions to the community.

    I think bringing this paradigm, I do not know how many times already done so, it would mark an important milestone in the knowledge management technology.

    And I am convinced that the economic resources and technologies for assembling a structure of this size can be from other sources the support of many philanthropists and foundations (eg Bill Gates) who would be happy to contribute generously to build such an institution:

     

    Microsoft Global Virtual University.

     

    Jaime


    Monday, August 1, 2011 4:13 PM
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    Hello Naomi

    I congratulate you because you are a guru on Microsoft technologies, excellent.

    I apologize if it bothers you that I am going to say, but I feel uncomfortable that request for further compromising the recognition that users make, when you yourself are also asking for more. Please reflect on this.

     

    Naomi 

    11 Jul 2011 3:14 PM

    I agree with the Point of Steven as certain awards are only for Moderators or MS Employees.

    Also, it looks like there is a limit of medals you can earn. Say, I have 4 gold, 5 silver, 14 bronze right now. Is there a way I can get more or it's already an absolute maximum of what I can get?

     

    Regards

    Jaime


    • Edited by JaimeH Monday, August 1, 2011 4:59 PM
    Monday, August 1, 2011 4:41 PM
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    Naomi 

    11 Jul 2011 3:14 PM

    I agree with the Point of Steven as certain awards are only for Moderators or MS Employees.

    Also, it looks like there is a limit of medals you can earn. Say, I have 4 gold, 5 silver, 14 bronze right now. Is there a way I can get more or it's already an absolute maximum of what I can get?

     


    We'll have those details Sept 1st. For now, there are about 50 achievements available to the community to unlock.
    Monday, August 1, 2011 4:56 PM
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    Thank you for that assurance. I look forward to hear a supporting response from you in this regard.  

    Were you waiting for a "supporting response" from Sean?

     

    Because he answered your question above... which is that it is taken into consideration in existing programs (MCC and MVP), it helps your reputation in the community, and you learn through it (also Naomi's point). As Sean said, no additional plans exist, but they're looking for additional opportunities. 

    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Monday, September 19, 2011 10:35 PM
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    No, I'm just curious if there is a possibility for me to get more achievements? Say, I see that so far the maximum gold medals a user can get is 5 (that's the number I saw for the users with the highest numbers). One achievement I can not get as it's moderator's only achievement (thread mover). So, my question was - is there a way to go up after you got 'Code Level III'? 

    I did get two more bronze medals so far.

    This is over a month old, but I have 8 gold medals, and none of those are from authoring blogs or moderating forums. So there are still a lot out there.

     


    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Monday, September 19, 2011 10:38 PM
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    I can't believe all this talk in this "Recognition System" forum about "how do I get points" etc! (Not pointing this at you at all Naomi, you're not the one continually "whining", just in general). I mean, it's "nice" to know where my "achievements" have come from, but I'm concerned about how people seem to be wanting to use the information to specifically do activities that will bring them points/achievements.

    Anyone who is trying to find out more information about the recognition system, so they can "manipulate" their point score, or just increase their number of achievements is *missing the point*, aren't they?

    I don't know about anyone else, but I do what I do for the sake of actually helping the community (it's what I love to do), not to get "points", or even for "recognition". The wonderful comments I get from the people that I do manage to help are the biggest buzz for me! Not the points or medals I might get as a result.

    Since I was awarded the MCC (which was a *huge* surprise, a pleasant one, but still a surprise) I have this "little shadow" who copies every single thing that I do in our forum, in the hope of getting more points, & therefore hoping to get the same award. In my opinion this is just WRONG. Surely these awards are "bestowed" by Microsoft on people who make a *genuine* contribution, not someone who deliberately, & systematically, accumulates points, by just copying what everyone else does.

    Someone like that just devalues the whole system, in my opinion. The system should recognise *quality*, not just sheer "quantity" of activity.

    Sorry for the rant, but I just couldn't take any more. I've been following the posts in this forum for only a short while, & I'm completely shocked by what I've seen in that time.

    Btw, congratulations on your 90K+ points Naomi, that's an *awesome* achievement. You must have helped a LOT of people to get there. Kind of makes my 9K look like a pittance, lol.

    Yann

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    Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:23 AM
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    > but they're looking for additional opportunities

    I wanted to hear on any latest news in this regard and I am all good with the rest of the details.  If stil they are looking, I am all fine.

     

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    Friday, September 23, 2011 2:02 PM
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    I wanted to hear on any latest news in this regard and I am all good with the rest of the details.  If stil they are looking, I am all fine.

    Yes the "looking" is more of a three-year plan plus. Especially because it already is taken into account in the MVP and MCC programs (plus the other "soft" benefits we mentioned). So the "looking" might be in future interactions with the programs or in other benefits (for example, some sites enable you to gain moderator or admin abilities, depending on your achievements).

     

    Hope this helps!

    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Friday, September 23, 2011 7:53 PM
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    I added the feature requests (around Recognition unlocking benefits) here: http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/4703.aspx
    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Friday, September 23, 2011 8:46 PM