Several Problems with the WLW Technical Preview RRS feed

  • General discussion

  • I have blogged about the new technical preview of WLW here:


    The problems I discuss include:

    - Open Blog Post Much Slower
    - Tagging Reminder Broken
    - Cropping not working as expected

    Other Ongoing Problems I discuss:

    - Jump to Top When Applying Header Formatting
    - Stability Issues
    - View Post on Publishing Issue.

    I also mention a few of my wishhes:

    - No Way to Search Published Post Titles.
    - Cursor Movement between Views
    - More Default Picture Settings/Styles
    - Format Painting
    - More Toolbar Shortcuts
    - In Post Search
    - Template Support.

    Regardless of my issues, I still love WLW and make these comments in hopes it will get better.


    • Edited by Dajad Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:49 PM Fix URL
    Thursday, June 19, 2008 8:46 PM

All replies

  • Thanks for all the feedback Dajad. We'll look into all the details.

    Currently i am trying to understand the crop issue you mentioned. I see that both: inline and linked images in your post are cropped, is the *size* of both images an issue? or did you notice that the linked image was not cropped as you had expected?

    Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:07 PM
  • Hi Dale, thanks, that's very helpful.

    The slower opening is due to a newly introduced bug and affects WordPress only. It should be fixed next time around.

    Looks like the tagging reminder is only for tags inserted via our "Insert Tags" function. If you're using the Keyword field to set native WordPress tags, that's something different. We have a work item on our wish list to support native WordPress tagging better, this would certainly fall under that category.

    None of us can reproduce the cropping problem so far. If you can supply repro steps that would be really helpful.

    "Jump to top when applying header formatting" is a known bug that we hope to fix in a future release.

    "Stability issues"--can you send me your log file? (Help | About | Show log file) My e-mail address is joe.cheng *AT* microsoft.com. Note also that we show the standard Windows crash dialog for all unexpected errors, even when we haven't crashed--unfortunate but it's the only way we can get automated error reporting.

    Thanks again for the great feedback and suggestions!

    Thursday, June 19, 2008 11:18 PM
  • Pooja/Joe

    All of my images on my site were cropped with paint.net and not WLW. That's kinda my point.  When I open the crop function it wants to crop just the little picture, not the big original one - or at least that's my perception.  It opens a view of the image with a cropping window. I'm presuming that the resulting cropped part will show up as the smaller picture and that the original will either not be linked in or it won't be similarly cropped.  But, I never actually finished cropping an image thinking it wouldn't work.  Perhaps I should try the whole sequence before assuming how it works.  Part of the problem too is I want to add a watermark and it looks to me like your watermark is applied to the small picture and not the big one. I want the watermark to be clearly visible on the big picture but not the small one. Meaning I don't want a 9 point Verdana font across a postage stamp image - just on the larger original.

    To add my keyword tags, I am adding them into the "Tag" field under the "categories" box in WLW. I'm doing it exactly how I did it with the prior version of WLW and it worked properly in the prior verison.  Note that my "Related Post" function is generated from these Tags/keywords. Since the Related Posts are still coming up, I know the tags/keywords are working with Wordpress even when WLW tells me I haven't added any.

    I'll send you a log file from my laptop version in a moment. Not sure if the logs from the prior versoin are there or not but you'll get whatever it kicks out.

    Note, I updated my original post with two more items:

    - the program loads remarkably slow (about 8 times longer than it takes to load the much larger Microsoft Word" program

    - I added a wish for a function to add captions to a photo. This could be accomplished rather simply by placing a picture in an iframed 1 column two rowed table with the picture in the top row and the caption in the bottom row.

    - But more than anything I'd love a way to search the titles of prior posts for me to load and edit. I run into that road block every single day it seems.

    Thanks for getting back to me. It's a treat to have developers so responsive.


    Friday, June 20, 2008 1:32 AM
  • Dale,

    I have created a quick plugin that will sort out your key word problem. If you go to http://cid-fabdddc5cad93494.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/My%20Projects/Live%20Writer%20Plugins/CheckKeywords.dll and drop that plugin in your plugins folder, it will now check the post prior to publishing, if the keywords section is empty it will ask you if you wish to carry on publishing, if you choose no, the publish will cancel and nothing will appear on your blog. Let me know how you get on with this.

    Just quickly, while I'm writing this, with the search option you want, would that be posts you've published using Live Writer on that machine, or posts on the blog itself? If it's the former, I might be able to rustle something up quickly for you :)
    SL - Windows Live Platform MVP
    Friday, June 20, 2008 9:03 AM
  • Scott, I hope you didn't do that plugin for me. I can wait until the next release of WLW where I assume it would be fixed. But thanks! I'll take a look.

    There were two searches I want. The first was a search and replace within a post as I'm writing it. But that isn't so important. 

    The one I REALLY want and need is some way when opening past posts, to search by the title of the posts to get to exatly the on you want to edit.  So, for example, lets say 2 months from now I want to edit the WLW post I linked to above, I'd want an open post dialogue that let me type in some words that appear in the post's title (in that case any of "windows", "live", "technical" etc.) and the dialogue would return all posts with those words in the title. As it is now I have hundreds of posts across my several blogs, some years old.  When I want ot load and edit them in WLW I have to scroll through up to 500 results to find the one I want to edit.  And its still not clear to me what happens when I have more than 500 posts in a blog because the WLW maximum on the open post dialogue seems to be 500.

    Thanks ... but again, I wouldn't expect a regular person to do this. I'd expect this functionality to be built into WLW as a basic feature. Surely all bloggers would want this.

    Friday, June 20, 2008 6:58 PM
  •  Hi Dale,

    Once you crop the inline image, we also crop the linked image a similar way. Also, your watermark text should still show on the linked click-through image (the larger image).

    Please give the scenario a shot, and do let us know if you see any problems.

    Friday, June 20, 2008 7:17 PM
  • Pooja, you are right the image is cropped both on the small and large versions.  However, I really haven't expressed my cropping issues/needs well in this thread or in my original post. So, to clarify them, I created a new post with example pictures of what I want/need verses what WLW cropping/watermarking does. The detailed post is here:


    In a nutshell, I need a way to resize the large image after cropping and a way to apply a watermark to the original bigger picture in a way that makes sense without there being a huge watermark on the resulting thumbnail.

    My post should make this all clear.

    Thannks again for listening and helping out.

    • Edited by Dajad Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:43 PM edited URL
    Saturday, June 21, 2008 6:41 PM
  • Hi Dale,

    I did indeed write that plugin for you, but don't worry, it took all of 10 minutes :)

    As for a search for your old writer posts, I could have knocked something up for posts that were on your local machine, but not on the blog itself. If that is something you would like still, let me know and I'll quickly throw it together :)
    SL - Windows Live Platform MVP
    Saturday, June 21, 2008 7:04 PM
  • Thanks Scott.

    The posts I need to search are on the blog.

    I thought of another issue with WLW that I've had since day 1. I added it to the original post above.  It is:

    Closing an Open Post: I cant’ find a way to close a post I am finished drafting without closing the entire program. In the same way I can close a Word document, without closing Word, I should be able to close a post in WLW. This is particularly problematic given how long it takes to open the program.

    Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:49 AM
  • Closing an Open Post: Just hit New, that'll clear out the post that's open. We're similar to, say, Notepad in that there's no way to have no document open in a Writer window.
    Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:07 PM
  • Joe Cheng [MSFT] said:

    Closing an Open Post: Just hit New, that'll clear out the post that's open. We're similar to, say, Notepad in that there's no way to have no document open in a Writer window.

    When I use WLW in both XP and Vista (and with the new and old builds) just hitting "New" opens another instance of the program so that I have two open WLW programs ... and on and on as I hit "New"

    Monday, July 7, 2008 10:44 PM
  •  You might need to check what option you have set in your options. For what you're wanting, you will need it set up like the following: http://cid-fabdddc5cad93494.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Images/writeroption.JPG
    SL - Windows Live Platform MVP
    Tuesday, July 8, 2008 10:26 AM
  • Thanks Scott ... but that option seems to require me to only edit one blog post at a time. That's not how I operate either WLW or Word. When I'm working I'm usually working on more than one post at a time (often cutting and pasting between) and when, as a lawyer, I work on Word documents, I usually have a half dozen open word documents across several windows across my four monitors.

    If that's the only way to accomplish my goal, it won't work the way I do.

    In Word there is a big red X in the top right hand corner to close the current Word Window. Then there is a little grey x below it to close just the document, and leave that window open. That's what I'm hoping for.

    Thanks though!

    • Edited by Dajad Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:01 AM to add another thought
    Saturday, July 19, 2008 11:57 PM