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The SharePoint - Knowledge Network forum should be removed RRS feed

  • Question

  • The SharePoint - Knowledge Network forum

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sharepointserverknowledgenetwork/threads

    is the only SharePoint forum that is in MSDN and not in TechNet.

    It is also a forum that is for a feature of Microsoft Office SharePoint Server 2007 (MOSS 2007) that was dropped before that product went RTM !

    In other words its only for a function that never made it into a product and which in fact was dropped in 2006/2007(quite a while ago).

    Because this forum is however still there and has a name that means nothing special for people who didn't ever have beta copies of MOSS 2007, it is still attracting some posts.

    Also because it is the only pre-SharePoint 2010 forum that I don't have Moderator rights to, I can't forward posts that were sent there to the correct forum for them.

    Best would therefore be for the forum to be removed completely. Even the few early on-topic posts can be dumped because they (as before) don't refer to any current or back product.

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Monday, December 6, 2010 4:29 PM

Answers

  • Ok, posted a sticky and an announcement, think I got the feedback included (though kept the "would like to" since I'm from the Northwest where we tend to be overly polite :-)...too funny!  I'll put a reminder in my calendar to lock the forum on the 7th.

    thanks

    Dennis

    Friday, May 25, 2012 3:48 PM

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  • It's interesting. There are no Moderators, no Answerers, and no one really trying to answer questions. But a lot of people still ask questions there.

    So either there is a community there that can be supported by people becoming moderators or it needs to be locked (with a sticky note to send people to other SP forums).

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, March 29, 2012 6:42 AM
    Owner
  • Hi Ed,

    (I got an alert!)

    You'll find that all the questions there - provided they are about any SharePoint product - will fit in one of the pre-SP 2010 forums or in one of the SP 2010 forums.

    The "community" there doesn't cover any new area(s) and thus it's in effect a second "general" forum. So I would suggest that your second option ("it needs to be locked (with a sticky note to send people to other SP forums).") would be the correct approach.

    There are already so many pre-SP 2010 forums that another is not needed.

    Mike


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Thursday, March 29, 2012 7:25 AM
  • I'm going to keep this thread open until we can connect with the team and get an answer. Thanks!

    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)


    Thursday, April 12, 2012 7:01 AM
    Owner
  • Unproposing so that we can keep this active. We need to find the forum owner.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Friday, April 20, 2012 7:38 PM
    Owner
  • I submitted a request. We're following up with the forum Owner.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)


    Monday, April 30, 2012 7:44 PM
    Owner
  • But Ed, how can this thread be finished (you've just marked your post as answer).

    The Knowledge Network forum is still there and is still receiving posts (the latest one is even more off-topic as it is about SPS 2010).

    So clearly while you may be following up with the forum owner, that forum owner hasn't done a thing about it.

    Now if you had added a comment from the forum owner quoting him/her as saying they didn't intend to do a thing about it, *that* would be a post worthy of being marked as the answer and thus closing the thread.


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    Thursday, May 24, 2012 6:25 AM
  • But Ed, how can this thread be finished (you've just marked your post as answer).

    The Knowledge Network forum is still there and is still receiving posts (the latest one is even more off-topic as it is about SPS 2010).

    So clearly while you may be following up with the forum owner, that forum owner hasn't done a thing about it.

    Now if you had added a comment from the forum owner quoting him/her as saying they didn't intend to do a thing about it, *that* would be a post worthy of being marked as the answer and thus closing the thread.


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    Yes, that's why the proposal stage occurs... To see if you think something qualifies as the answer or not. I went ahead and uproposed a few posts. I'll follow up again to see if we identified the forum owner yet. Because we typically don't delete forums, we could still lock it and place it into a "read only" state.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:44 PM
    Owner
  • I sent a follow-up request to the forum owner. I also asked for permission for Brent or myself to make this change.

     

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 24, 2012 5:48 PM
    Owner
  • Update: Forum owner knows about this and agrees with the solution. Currently there's a technical issue to grant him rights.

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 24, 2012 7:26 PM
    Owner
  • Hey guys!  Thanks for getting this to me Ed, and thanks for heads up on this Mike...not exactly sure I ended up as an owner for this particular forum (I'm on lots of others:-)), but anyway, now that we've got the permissions fixed, let's ge this one resolved! 

    So, what I'm thinking is that I create a sticky post that says basically:

    "Thanks for your interest in this SharePoint forum.  In order to better organize questions, communications, and conversations around SharePoint, we're actually going to close down (lock) this forum and and would like to direct you to http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/sharepoint for pre-SP 2010 forums, or http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/sharepoint2010 for discussions related specifically to SP 2010. 

    This forum (SharePoint Knowledge Network) will be locked (read-only) for any future posts, though the threads in here will still be visible as reference.  In order to give people some time to make any last responses to current threads here, we'll push the lock date out 2 weeks to 6/7/2012."

    Does that work for both of you?

    thanks

    Dennis

    Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:22 PM
  • Dennis,

    Yes. Looks good!

    You have a typo where "and" is written twice... "we're actually going to close down (lock) this forum and and would like to direct you to"

    Thanks!


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Thursday, May 24, 2012 10:42 PM
    Owner
  • Hi Dennis,

    That would work fine for me.

    If I have one small niggle it is that whereas you say that the SP 2010 forums are "specifically" for SP 2010 questions you don't say that the pre-SP 2010 forums are NOT for SP 2010 questions.

    Now I agree that is how people ought to be interpreting your statement, but experience has regretfully shown that people have far too often posted SP 2010 questions to pre-SP 2010 forums even though that fact ("pre-SharePoint 2010") is clearly stated in the Title of each of the pre-SP 2010 forums.

    How about therefore 

    .....  direct you to http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/sharepoint for questions on SharePoint products prior to SharePoint 2010

    Note the removal of "would like to" - this is unnecessarily over-nice imo ... but then I'm from the North of England and not the US which would explain my dislike of "over-nice".

    P.S. Thanks, Ed, for your persistence with this.


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    Friday, May 25, 2012 8:21 AM
  • Ok, posted a sticky and an announcement, think I got the feedback included (though kept the "would like to" since I'm from the Northwest where we tend to be overly polite :-)...too funny!  I'll put a reminder in my calendar to lock the forum on the 7th.

    thanks

    Dennis

    Friday, May 25, 2012 3:48 PM
  • Ok, posted a sticky and an announcement, think I got the feedback included (though kept the "would like to" since I'm from the Northwest where we tend to be overly polite :-)...too funny!  I'll put a reminder in my calendar to lock the forum on the 7th.

    thanks

    Dennis

    One and a half years in the making! For those who don't like it when we bring up old threads, this is a shining example as to why we do that!

    Thank you Mike for keeping on it (I know it can be exhausting after waiting this long). And you're welcome for my persistence. It helps when both of us are persistent. =^)

    Thanks!

     


    Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

    Friday, May 25, 2012 6:08 PM
    Owner