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Post marked as abusive even though its not RRS feed

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  • Post has been cleared and now moved to proper forum category.  Thanks for the feedback!
    Carey Frisch
    Saturday, January 2, 2010 5:02 PM
  • I've sometimes flagged a post as abusive when it's in the wrong forum.  My intention is to flag it for the moderators.  Is that an incorrect use of this feature?
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    Sunday, January 3, 2010 5:41 AM
  • It would be nice to have "Alert Moderators" button in addition to "Report as Abuse" or instead of the "Report as Abuse", then it would be easier to use this button. In ASP.NET forums the button is now called "Alert moderators" and I use it every time to alert for different post problems.


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    Naomi Nosonovsky, Sr. Programmer-Analyst

    My blog

    hi ,

    agreed , or just report maybe ? then again how much more work will it create ??

    have a nice day and happy new year
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    Sunday, January 3, 2010 7:57 PM
  • It would be nice to have "Alert Moderators" button in addition to "Report as Abuse" or instead of the "Report as Abuse", then it would be easier to use this button. In ASP.NET forums the button is now called "Alert moderators" and I use it every time to alert for different post problems.

    What are the cases where you'd use either button?  I can only think of 3:

    1) Spam
    2) Violation of TOS/forum rules (abusive language, etc.)
    3) Wrong forum

    Are there other cases you can think of?  With a short list of reasons to use the button, my initial thinking is that the "report as abuse" button is good enough.

    Thanks,
    Mark
    (Not a member of the forums team)

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    Sunday, January 3, 2010 11:06 PM
  • I agree on #5, but I'm not as sure about #4.  I agree that it's a problem.  Lots of posts are getting marked as an answer when they aren't an answer.  This includes people that mark their own opinions as answers seconds after posting them.

    But I think other things need to be done to resolve that problem.  Otherwise there are going to be a lot of overworked moderators unmarking posts :)  


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    Monday, January 4, 2010 12:21 AM
  • I see that another user suggests to disallow OPs to mark their responses. In 90% cases it's correct, but in rare situations the OP response is indeed an answer - how can we handle these cases?

    The suggestion has been made many times, but I haven't seen any of the forums folks say that they're convinced that this is the right answer.

    My impression is the same as yours.  I don't think it's used correctly very often.  Can't explain why though.  Some "user education" is needed.
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    Monday, January 4, 2010 12:36 AM
  • I see that another user suggests to disallow OPs to mark their responses. In 90% cases it's correct, but in rare situations the OP response is indeed an answer - how can we handle these cases?

    As I have suggested (many times) before: replace OP self-mark by OP self-propose.

    (and the same for moderators...)

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    Monday, January 4, 2010 3:33 AM
  • A little bit unrelated angle, but since it happens with me few times recently - if the moderator unmarks the response marked by OP and it is not clear why, the moderator is obliged to provide some explanation.
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    Naomi Nosonovsky, Sr. Programmer-Analyst

    My blog
    Monday, January 4, 2010 4:25 AM
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  • A little bit unrelated angle, but since it happens with me few times recently - if the moderator unmarks the response marked by OP and it is not clear why, the moderator is obliged to provide some explanation.
    Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming. (c) by Donald Knuth

    Naomi Nosonovsky, Sr. Programmer-Analyst

    My blog

    hi ,

    hmmm , nice but will they do that ? many will not feel like explaining the actions they make , and do they have the time ?

    have a nice day
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    Monday, January 4, 2010 4:36 AM
  • A little bit unrelated angle, but since it happens with me few times recently - if the moderator unmarks the response marked by OP and it is not clear why, the moderator is obliged to provide some explanation.

    That's a good suggestion.  I haven't noticed a case like that before, except maybe where it was obvious that the post wasn't an answer.  You might want to start a separate thread for it, to make sure other folks see it.
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    Monday, January 4, 2010 5:40 AM
  • I see that another user suggests to disallow OPs to mark their responses. In 90% cases it's correct, but in rare situations the OP response is indeed an answer - how can we handle these cases?
    The suggestion has been made many times, but I haven't seen any of the forums folks say that they're convinced that this is the right answer.

    My impression is the same as yours.  I don't think it's used correctly very often.  Can't explain why though.  Some "user education" is needed.
    If user education is needed, the design is broken. Invalid self-mark is very destructive to the thread (and the OP him/herself), because externally the thread appears to have been answered, so many moderators and/or potential answerers will not visit it.

    Not to mention that it is very dispiriting to answerers who have helped the OP.

    Self-propose by OP would be much better.


    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    Monday, January 4, 2010 1:41 PM
  • I agree, I would like to see the OP having proposed an answer instead of just answering it outright (even though it may or may not be correct).  Leave it up to the hard working moderators/answerers (or whoever can) decide if the answer is right or not. It sure is a shame though that some posters just seem to want to belittle moderators (or any microsoft employee) to make them feel better (I guess). I try to do my part to we are all here to help if they want help, but sometimes the old cop mentality wants to pull out the night stick LOL for a tune up adjustment.
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    Monday, January 4, 2010 10:16 PM
  • If user education is needed, the design is broken.

    Every voting system I've seen on forums has had some level of confusion associated with it. 

    An incredibly brief walkthrough of how to use the features of the forum doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  The current FAQ is overkill for new users.
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    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 5:41 AM
  • Every voting system I've seen on forums has had some level of confusion associated with it. 

    An incredibly brief walkthrough of how to use the features of the forum doesn't seem unreasonable to me.  The current FAQ is overkill for new users.
    Confusion is one thing. Allowing users to do things that are downright destructive is another.

    I agree that a mini-tutorial on the purpose of marking, proposing and voting helpful would be useful.

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 10:45 AM
  • Confusion is one thing. Allowing users to do things that are downright destructive is another.
    Another destructive behavior is the ability to Start a Discussion . The vast majority of "Discussions" are novice user error.

    Destructive to the user because many responders will ignore a discussion thread. Destructive to responders who do reply because they will not get credit.

    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
    Tuesday, January 5, 2010 11:54 AM