none
Do you like the new design / functionality

All replies

  • No!

    It is great for a social networking site but terrible for a tech site.

    Never let a web designer near a technical discussion. People who like pretty web pages make the worst technicians.


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:36 AM
  • jrv,

    please vote at the link provided. Thanks


    Hannes

    If you have got questions about this, just ask.

    In a perfect world,
    users would never enter data in the wrong form,
    files they choose to open would always exist
    and code would never have bugs.

    C# to VB.NET: http://www.developerfusion.com/tools/convert/csharp-to-vb/

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:39 AM
  • I did - read my comments over there.

    "Never send a web designer out to do a programmers job." - anonymous Greek proverb 566 BCE.

    Don't fell picked on.  I am having very big tech difficulties with the web designers on one of my clients sites.  The designers insist they cannot build a web site without owning the domain and having the domain admin credentials.  I cannot get them to understand why their demands cannot come true.

    I do not expect it will be possible to explain why this new design will never work on a tech site.  It is pretty and has good info.  It  is, however, harder to navigate and very hard to actually keep track of discussions.  The old editor, which was always a problem, seems to have been reused.

    I suspect you can fix much of this but I do not expect it will ever get fixed.

    Can we at least have the "Unread" filter back.  I do not like having to look at every post always.


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


    • Edited by jrv Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:51 AM reason
    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:50 AM
  • Thanks for voting.

    Hannes

    If you have got questions about this, just ask.

    In a perfect world,
    users would never enter data in the wrong form,
    files they choose to open would always exist
    and code would never have bugs.

    C# to VB.NET: http://www.developerfusion.com/tools/convert/csharp-to-vb/

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 8:52 AM
  • One thing about the thread overview (http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/user/threads?user=...).

    When there is one thing that interest me about the last Post it is not the time or date. But who wrote it. Because the one thing that interest me is the last post being not made by me!

    Otherwise I only keep finding my own posts trying to figure out if that post 5 minutes ago was mine, or if I actually posted 7 minutes ago and somebody else has posted 1-2 minutes after me.

    Otherwise, it is a new design, so I have to see how it works over a few days. Mostly it is information being placed in a different point/size on the screen.


    Let's talk about MVVM: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wpf/thread/b1a8bf14-4acd-4d77-9df8-bdb95b02dbe2

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:04 PM
  • Where is the "My Threads" link?  GRRRRRR!!!!!

    Adam Talesky

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:09 PM
  • Adam,

    here ;-)


    Hannes

    If you have got questions about this, just ask.

    In a perfect world,
    users would never enter data in the wrong form,
    files they choose to open would always exist
    and code would never have bugs.

    C# to VB.NET: http://www.developerfusion.com/tools/convert/csharp-to-vb/

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:16 PM
  • On that mater, how about a new Filter:

    Show only Threads where LastPost.User != Me;

    Like I said: The one thing on my threads and the Forum threads that does concern me, are all the post being made by people who are not me. Those posts are either:

    - New Questions to wich I might have an answer
    - The requested clarifications from the original asker, so I might be closer to knowing what the question is (and if I have an answer)
    - Post by other people, wich might help me to understand what the question is, give me new insights (teaching me what the answer is for next time) or contain information that is potentially wrong, dangerous or misleading (and I think I can point out/corret).

    In short: Post not made by me are the reason I even joined this Forum. And propably why it exists. Please make it easier to find those.


    Let's talk about MVVM: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/wpf/thread/b1a8bf14-4acd-4d77-9df8-bdb95b02dbe2

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 12:48 PM
  • jv, Regarding your comment about web designers. I definitely agree. I've felt for some time that the goal of the forum designers was to create pages that are pleasing to the eye from 10 feet away. Pages that win design awards. They are not motivated to communicate information accurately. In one of threads, where we complained about no longer seeing who posted a question, or who made the last reply, the response was that the designers felt it was more important to show the number of views. Well how useful is the metadata for this thread in a forum I moderate:

    Except for the fact that the question is answered, this is definitely something I should jump on. A new problem I should test. When I opened the thread I read through the entire question before I accidently noticed at the very bottom of the post, in very small font, that the question was dated September, 2009.


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 1:58 PM
    Moderator
  • Richard - A website, in my experience, was always designed technically by a programmer working with a set of requirements that had been well vetted.  The web designer always came in last to add the styleand graphics.  Now we just use web designers and no technicians.

    There are significant and basic technical issues.  Right  now the style and them of the site have decided to change into something that is mostly unusable on IE 10.  I think as this new site propagates even more technical issues will surface.

    Why didn't Microsoft work with the moderators to set up the new design?


    ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:37 PM
  • Probably because the feedback received wouldn't have been what Microsoft wanted to hear.
    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:53 PM
    Moderator
  • The old editor, which was always a problem, seems to have been reused.

    Yes, I reviewed the new designed a while back, and thought "looks good", but I also noticed that the editor was the same, and the editor is really a sore point. They have even kept the undiscoverable Code button.


    Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se
    Wednesday, June 19, 2013 9:28 PM
  • bump

    Hannes

    If you have got questions about this, just ask.

    In a perfect world,
    users would never enter data in the wrong form,
    files they choose to open would always exist
    and code would never have bugs.

    C# to VB.NET: http://www.developerfusion.com/tools/convert/csharp-to-vb/

    Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:58 PM
  • The thread list and navigation to the right is improved.

    The display of the threads themselves has grossly deteoriated.

    In total, that makes -1.


    Erland Sommarskog, SQL Server MVP, esquel@sommarskog.se
    Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:45 PM