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  • Hello all. This is actually two questions that should have similar answers...maybe.

    1. I want to buy a new laptop, but I don't want to run Windows 7 or Vista. I want to run Windows XP, which I really love.  I've  seen enough of 7 and Vista from family and friends to know that I don't want either. But, of course, I seem to have let the "Windows XP down-gradable!" offers pass me by. I didn't need a new laptop then, but I do now. My old one was a Dell Inspiron,  so old that it came with Windows ME, and an offer  offer for a free upgrade to XP when it became available, which I did. Can I buy a new laptop with Windows 7, then wipe the hard drive and install XP from the disc that came with the Dell? Let it be understood; . I'm not asking for my money back from changing back to XP from whatever OEM version of Windows 7 the maker offers, and I don't want to spend the time to look for a system with no operating system, which I couldn't use the XP from my ancient,  dying Inspiron. I also have a mini ITX with a full retail version of XP installed, or, rather, did until I gutted it for a few parts I needed for another exsisting system. Can I use that,  or the Dell OEM version with my new laptop?

    2. I've been gradually updating my dads computer, which I built from scratch and installed a retail version of XP. The only thing left is the hard drive and the case, which he now wants to replace, The optical drive, the RAM, the CPU and the mobo have all been upgraded, but I've never re-installed the OS. I'ts  always been my understanding that you could change up to five components without buying a new version, as long as it was a retail version. He also wants to keep XP, which this 83 year old has taken at least nine years to learn the basics  of XP (I'm talking about a pioneer in the field of dermatological electron microscopy back in the '60's and went on to found a reknown Pigment and Lesison center. Go figure...).

    So, what are my options?

     

    Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:51 AM

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  • Hello John Pearson,

    No, XP Mode is not available in the lesser (Starter and Home Premium) editions of W7.

    XP Mode was developed as a way for business environments with a significant investment in XP-only software to move to W7 while still being able to retain their unique XP-only applications.  Thus, it is only offered on the "business-level" editions of W7, being W7 Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise.

    Some of the major computer manufacturers still offer computers with Windows 7 Professional licenses but with what they call the "Windows XP downgrade service" preinstalled.  That is, you get a computer that has a Certificate of Authenticity (CoA) for W7Pro applied, but the computer comes from the manufacturer with Windows XP Pro preinstalled under the downgrade rights program.

    Again, the audience for this product is mostly businesses.

    For example, if you go to dell.com, click on the Small Biz section, and then search "computers with Windows XP" you'll get a place to start.

    http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=us&l=en&cs=04&k=computers+with+windows+xp&cat=all


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    Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:21 AM

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  • "John Pearson" wrote in message news:1a919afa-d347-469b-b3d9-559d4a5a9c5a...

    Hello all. This is actually two questions that should have similar answers...maybe.

    1. I want to buy a new laptop, but I don't want to run Windows 7 or Vista. I want to run Windows XP, which I really love.  I've  seen enough of 7 and Vista from family and friends to know that I don't want either. But, of course, I seem to have let the "Windows XP down-gradable!" offers pass me by. I didn't need a new laptop then, but I do now. My old one was a Dell Inspiron,  so old that it came with Windows ME, and an offer  offer for a free upgrade to XP when it became available, which I did. Can I buy a new laptop with Windows 7, then wipe the hard drive and install XP from the disc that came with the Dell? Let it be understood; . I'm not asking for my money back from changing back to XP from whatever OEM version of Windows 7 the maker offers, and I don't want to spend the time to look for a system with no operating system, which I couldn't use the XP from my ancient,  dying Inspiron. I also have a mini ITX with a full retail version of XP installed, or, rather, did until I gutted it for a few parts I needed for another exsisting system. Can I use that,  or the Dell OEM version with my new laptop?

    2. I've been gradually updating my dads computer, which I built from scratch and installed a retail version of XP. The only thing left is the hard drive and the case, which he now wants to replace, The optical drive, the RAM, the CPU and the mobo have all been upgraded, but I've never re-installed the OS. I'ts  always been my understanding that you could change up to five components without buying a new version, as long as it was a retail version. He also wants to keep XP, which this 83 year old has taken at least nine years to learn the basics  of XP (I'm talking about a pioneer in the field of dermatological electron microscopy back in the '60's and went on to found a reknown Pigment and Lesison center. Go figure...).

    So, what are my options?

     


    1) No- you cannot use the Dell installation disks to install onto your new laptop - the OEM license is tied to the old computer and dies with it.
    2) A Retail License can be installed  as many times as you like - on as many computers as you like - so long as it is only installed once, on one computer, at a time. You can therefore move this installation to a new PC if you like (providing it is removed from the old one). However, you need to be aware that many new motherboards will not support XP drivers - so check that before purchase.
     
     
    If you get a new laptop with Win7 Professional or Ultimate, you can download XP Mode, and use that - it's an XP Virtual Machine which runs under Win7 - and looks to all intents and purposes like ordinary XP.   http://www.microsoft.com/windows/virtual-pc/
     
     
    HTH

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, September 18, 2010 6:19 AM
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  • but you can't do that with Home or Home Premium?

    Sunday, September 19, 2010 12:09 AM
  • Hello John Pearson,

    No, XP Mode is not available in the lesser (Starter and Home Premium) editions of W7.

    XP Mode was developed as a way for business environments with a significant investment in XP-only software to move to W7 while still being able to retain their unique XP-only applications.  Thus, it is only offered on the "business-level" editions of W7, being W7 Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise.

    Some of the major computer manufacturers still offer computers with Windows 7 Professional licenses but with what they call the "Windows XP downgrade service" preinstalled.  That is, you get a computer that has a Certificate of Authenticity (CoA) for W7Pro applied, but the computer comes from the manufacturer with Windows XP Pro preinstalled under the downgrade rights program.

    Again, the audience for this product is mostly businesses.

    For example, if you go to dell.com, click on the Small Biz section, and then search "computers with Windows XP" you'll get a place to start.

    http://search.dell.com/results.aspx?s=bsd&c=us&l=en&cs=04&k=computers+with+windows+xp&cat=all


    Buy Office 2007 Now, Get Office 2010 Free http://office2010.microsoft.com/en-us/tech-guarantee/microsoft-office-2010-technology-guarantee-FX101825695.aspx?CTT=97
    Sunday, September 19, 2010 2:21 AM