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    I'm a MCITP:Enterprise Support Technician and want to upgrade.

    On this page it looks like the exam 70-682                   = 70-680 & 70-685 Certificates
    Yet on the 70-682 exam page it suggests 70-682          = 70-685 only

    My question is: how many certificates will I get?

     

    Sunday, May 30, 2010 11:08 AM

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    Yes you get both certificates.

    The second page doesnt make it easy to understand but if you look at it the only way to get the MCITP is to get the MCTS as well

    Blog: http://www.certsandprogs.com

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    70-505 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    70-562 Objectives List with MSDN Links
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    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:33 PM
    • Unmarked as answer by Andrew Barnes Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:17 PM
    Sunday, May 30, 2010 3:22 PM
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    Thanks for your reply Niall. Do you have any citation? Has anyone passed the 70-682 and recieved both certificates?

    Does that mean that this answer was wrong? http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/CertGeneral/thread/a8ce357b-8bfb-4794-8b2a-4283dd3785a0

    Sunday, May 30, 2010 4:22 PM
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    It looks like I've found my answer: http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?&query=70-682&lang=en&cr=US&guid=&sloc=en-us&dg=microsoft.public.cert.itpro.mcitp&p=1&tid=886b0414-4a94-44c7-8e98-6c92d6cf5fe5

    If you pass the upgrade exam 70-682 you only get 1 certificate: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician

    If you want/need the 70-680 certificate the only way to get it is to sit the actual exam(in addition to doing the upgrade exam).

    Sunday, May 30, 2010 5:03 PM
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    Thats bizarre and being very honest makes no sense. How can you have the Pro level without the MCTS as well. I have done a couple of upgrades and the MCTS always came with it.

    So if we take a look at it, to get the MCITP you need 70-680 & 70-685 which is two exams. Why bother having an upgrade if you still have to do 2 exams. Upgrades are meant to shorten your exam path not extend it. It also means you need the MCTS as a prerequisite to get the MCITP but in the case of the 70-682 you dont???

     

     

     

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    Sunday, May 30, 2010 6:45 PM
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    Andrew,

     

    Don't become confuse, exam 70-685 & 70-680 is required only for freshers who start to become MCITP: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician. For those who are trying to upgrade the MCDST (Windows XP) just take the 70-682 to get Windows 7 MCITP Enterprise Desktop Support Technician. All the very best.

    Sachin Shetty| MCP|MCTS|MCITP| Please remember to mark the replies as answers and Vote as helpful if they help and unmark them if they provide no help.Thank you in advance.
    • Marked as answer by Rubel Khan Thursday, June 17, 2010 1:34 PM
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    Monday, May 31, 2010 4:19 AM
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    Andrew,

     

    No need to worry about for not receiving two certificates. However IT experts knows very well about 70-682 exam is combined with MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Windows 7and MCTS: Windows 7, Configuration questions and upgrade exam. Keep rocking now!!!

    Sachin Shetty| MCP|MCTS|MCITP| Please remember to mark the replies as answers and Vote as helpful if they help and unmark them if they provide no help.Thank you in advance.
    Monday, May 31, 2010 4:28 AM
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    IT experts knows very well about 70-682 exam is combined with MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Windows 7and MCTS: Windows 7, Configuration questions and upgrade exam.

    Problem is that most people who interview in the UK are not IT experts.

    Microsoft really need to rethink this. This is so wrong!.

    Monday, May 31, 2010 10:48 AM
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    I fired off an email to see whats the story with this and will get back to you on this.

     

    Blog: http://www.certsandprogs.com

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    70-562 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    70-433 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    Tuesday, June 1, 2010 6:43 AM
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    I got a reply from the program manager in MSL and here is his reply (went straight to the source rather through technical support)

    "Just a minor glitch in the system that awards the certs. It is being rectified.

    You do get both certs"

    So there you go.. some good news for you!

    Blog: http://www.certsandprogs.com

    70-515 Objectives List with MSDN Links
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    70-433 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    Tuesday, June 1, 2010 4:25 PM
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    Thanks for looking into this Nial, I booked my 70-680 exam this morning for Friday - lol.

    I'm just gonna do both exams, I'm sure I'll pass and dont fancy all the drama of emailing and chasing MS if/when I only get 1.

    Thanks again.

    Tuesday, June 1, 2010 7:39 PM
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    Well you could always cancel and save yourself the cash :)

    Also when you pass 70-682 you will get both certs even if at the time you dont, it will be rectified later on the transcript.

     

    Blog: http://www.certsandprogs.com

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    70-505 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    70-562 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    70-433 Objectives List with MSDN Links
    • Proposed as answer by SachinShetty10 Saturday, June 5, 2010 2:14 PM
    • Unproposed as answer by Andrew Barnes Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:17 PM
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    Tuesday, June 1, 2010 8:02 PM
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    Ok, I've slept on this.

    I called MS to confirm this myself because I'd really like it in writing myself. They say it could take a day or 2 to get back to me.
    I cancelled my 70-680 exam and booked the 70-682 in it's place.

    As I'm off work this week, I'll spend the next 2 days revising (heavily)

    I'll post back when I hear from Microsoft and let you know if I pass.

    Wednesday, June 2, 2010 9:25 AM
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    Well sods law, I passed the 680 part but failed the 685 part miserably. I'm gonna do a couple weeks focused on the 685 parts and especially VPN. If I just did the 680 I would have passed - lol. Well at least I have the second shot voucher. I never thought I'd need one.

    "Those who fail to prepare, must be prepared to fail!"

    Friday, June 4, 2010 11:16 AM
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    Microsoft called me back and confirmed that I should get both certificates.

    When I spoke about the pages being wrong they said that they will update their site in August.

    I just got back from the exam. It was so hard! Anyway, I passed! At last.

     

    As I did the 70-682 exam I should get :

     

    Exam 70-680: TS: Windows 7, Configuring

    Exam 70-685: Pro: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Support Technician

     

    It was the hardest exam I took so far. I will post back when I get my transcript to confirm what I get. (then this can be closed)

     

     

    Tuesday, June 22, 2010 3:26 PM
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    I logged in this morning to view my transcript and look below - No Windows 7 configuration:

    Microsoft Certification Status

    Credential Certification / Version   Date Achieved
     
      Microsoft Certified IT Professional   Mar 11, 2010
      Enterprise Desktop Support Technician 7   Jun 22, 2010
      Enterprise Support Technician   Mar 11, 2010
      Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist   Oct 02, 2009
      Microsoft Windows Vista, Configuration   Oct 02, 2009


    Microsoft Certification Exams Completed Successfully

      Exam ID Description   Date Completed
      682 PRO: Upgrading to Windows 7 MCITP Enterprise Desktop Support Technician   Jun 22, 2010
      622 Pro: Microsoft Desktop Support – ENTERPRISE   Mar 11, 2010
      620 TS: Configuring Microsoft Windows Vista Client   Oct 02, 2009

    I will chase this up with MS today.

     

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 8:47 AM
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    I just got off the phone with Microsoft. They say that I have achieved the Microsoft Windows 7, Configuration credential. However, their certification tree is currently being updated now and my transcript will reflect this in August.

    They promised to email an offical response to this so I could post it in this topic.

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:17 AM
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    I just got my reply from Microsoft:

     

    Dear Andrew,

     

    Thank you for your call.

     

    With reference to our telephone conversation, please be informed that the MCTS: Windows 7, Configuration, which you are granted after passing the exam 70-682, will reflect in your transcript late August . The issue is caused by the system error which we are aware of and this is the time when our system will be updated.

     

    We apologize for any inconvenience caused by this situation.

     

    If you have any further questions please get in touch with us and we will be happy to assist you in any way we can.

     

     

    Kind Regards

    Joanna Pinczuk

     

    Microsoft Regional Service Center

     

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    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:36 AM
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    Hello together,

    I have got a different answer some weeks ago from Microsoft to this question and I have been told , that with taking 70-682 I won't get the Windows7,Configuration Certification, just only EDST 7:

    Thank you for your e-mail regarding exam 70-682.
     
    We would be happy to assist you.
     
    We would like to inform you that yes, exam 70-682 covers exam 70-680 and 70-685 and you will only get MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician 7 certification as it is the upgrade exam from MCDST. You will not get MCTS: Windows 7 Configuring certification.
     
    If there is anything else we can do for you, please let us know. Thank you for contacting Microsoft.

    However, it is good news that it looks like that it will be included now according to the posts in this thread. Planing to take Windows 7 sometime in fall. :)

    Wednesday, June 23, 2010 2:58 PM
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    OK, I got both answers from Microsoft today. Yes it counts and no it doesn't. I am beginning to think it all depends on who you talk to there. But crossing my fingers hoping it does.
    Monday, July 12, 2010 9:00 PM
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    Hi cbertrend,

    Have a look here : http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab5
    Under Required Exam it is telling that there is currently an issue which will be resolved early Sept 2010. So 70-680 will be included in 70-682.

     

     

    Saturday, July 31, 2010 9:42 AM
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    This issue gets worse:

    I've just passed the 70-686 exam but have not been awarded the certificate. Microsoft really need to move forward on this.

    Microsoft Certification Status

    Credential Certification / Version Date Achieved
    Microsoft Certified IT Professional Mar 11, 2010
    Enterprise Desktop Support Technician 7 Jun 22, 2010
    Enterprise Support Technician Mar 11, 2010
    Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist Oct 02, 2009
    Microsoft Windows Vista, Configuration Oct 02, 2009


    Microsoft Certification Exams Completed Successfully
    Exam ID Description Date Completed
    686 PRO: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Administration Aug 12, 2010
    682 PRO: Upgrading to Windows 7 MCITP Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Jun 22, 2010
    622 Pro: Microsoft Desktop Support – ENTERPRISE Mar 11, 2010
    620 TS: Configuring Microsoft Windows Vista Client Oct 02, 2009

     

     

    Friday, August 13, 2010 9:03 AM
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    Ohh ... what I forgot to say in the other answer:

    Grats!

    I hope that Microsoft fixes it soon.

    Konrad

    Friday, August 13, 2010 11:00 AM
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    Well, it looks like MS have made good on their promise. Below is now my current transcript.

    Microsoft Certification Status

    Credential Certification / Version   Date Achieved
     
      Microsoft Certified IT Professional   Mar 11, 2010
      Enterprise Desktop Administrator 7   Aug 12, 2010
      Enterprise Desktop Support Technician 7   Jun 22, 2010
      Enterprise Support Technician   Mar 11, 2010
      Microsoft Certified Technology Specialist   Oct 02, 2009
      Windows 7, Configuration   Jun 22, 2010
      Microsoft Windows Vista, Configuration   Oct 02, 2009


    Microsoft Certification Exams Completed Successfully

      Exam ID Description   Date Completed
      686 PRO: Windows 7, Enterprise Desktop Administration   Aug 12, 2010
      682 PRO: Upgrading to Windows 7 MCITP Enterprise Desktop Support Technician   Jun 22, 2010
      622 Pro: Microsoft Desktop Support – ENTERPRISE   Mar 11, 2010
      620 TS: Configuring Microsoft Windows Vista Client   Oct 02, 2009

     

    . . .and I lived happily ever after.

    Sunday, September 5, 2010 11:12 AM
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    Hi,

     

       I've got a stupid question. I'm a MCDST (XP) and now I'd like to upgrade to MCITP: EDST 7. Is it really true that I need to pass only one exam, called 70-682 PRO: Upgrading to Win7 MCITP Enterprise Dekstop Support Technician to have that certificate?

    I'm totally confused anyway because I've written an e-mail to Microsoft and the answer was that I need to pass 2 exams, 70-621 and 70-682 too. Why? I don't need any Certificate from Vista at all. 

    Probably I'll take only the 70-680. I need that exam to upgrade my MCSA to MCITP: EA.

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 9:59 AM
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    Hi imrok,

    you got it correctly in my eyes and maybe you missunderstood the answer of microsoft (which I cannot say, because I didn't see the original mail).

    Regarding to http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/cert-windowsclient.aspx#tab5 an MCDST (XP) has 2 different Upgrade paths:

    1) To MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Windows 7 - this just needs the 70-682 exam.

    2) To MCITP: Enterprise Support Technician - thisjust needs the 70-621 exam.

    So regarding to the information given, you just have to do the 70-682 to get these certificates:
    - MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician Windows 7
    - MCTS: Windows 7, Configuration

    If Microsoft sent you something else, it is a topic that has to be clarified! I am just interpreting the pages of Microsoft and of course: They can change the rules as they want and there can be errors. So the official answers of Microsoft are the valid information and not what we think here.

    With kind regards,

    Konrad

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:20 AM
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    Hi Konrad,

        The asnwer from Microsoft:

    We would like to provide you with 2 paths to obtain the requested
    certification.

    1. MCITP: Enterprise Desktop Support Technician 7

    70-680
    70-685

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/mcitp.aspx#tab2

    2. Upgrade path from MCDST WIndows XP

    70-621 to obtain MCTS (Windows Vista ? Configuration) and MCITP:
    Enterprise Support which are necessary to take the next step
    70-682 to obtain the MCITP certification

    http://www.microsoft.com/learning/en/us/certification/mcdst.aspx#tab3

    Every candidate can choose the option of their choice.

    any opinion?

     

    thank you

    Best Regards,

    imrok

    Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:33 AM
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    If you get the Windows 7, Configuration credential does that count towards your MCSE/MCITP:EA client exam?
    Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:03 PM
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    Hi All,

     

     now, I can answer my question. Last week I passed the 70-682 exam. Now, I have Windows 7 Configuration (70-680) and MCITP: EDST 7 Cert as well. So, I'm satisfied with this result. :)

    MCP, MCDST, MCSA: Messaging
    Monday, March 28, 2011 1:40 PM