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  • Hi, when I move a lot of files, or start a new sync, it kills my brothers WOW game. Is there some way to either limit, or make sure mesh bandwidth usage is treated as last priority?
    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:32 AM

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  • There is no way within Live Mesh to restrict the bandwidth. Some routers have the ability to restrict bandwidth for particular computers, programs, or ports. You might want to look into the D-Link gaming routers, for example.
    However, Live Mesh should certainly not be using up so much bandwidth as to impact another PC on the local LAN. Live Mesh typically throttles the usage and does not use all available bandwidth. In my house, I have a number of computers going through a single router. My wife was a pretty heavy user of WoW for a time and none of my activity, including full throttle downloads of multiple gigs of data (not using Live Mesh) had no impact on her game.
    -steve
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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:45 PM
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  • Hi, when I move a lot of files, or start a new sync, it kills my brothers WOW game. Is there some way to either limit, or make sure mesh bandwidth usage is treated as last priority?

    hi ,

    yes true the task manager , or wait , or get more ram , increase your cache will help


    have a nice day
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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:37 AM
  • There is no way within Live Mesh to restrict the bandwidth. Some routers have the ability to restrict bandwidth for particular computers, programs, or ports. You might want to look into the D-Link gaming routers, for example.
    However, Live Mesh should certainly not be using up so much bandwidth as to impact another PC on the local LAN. Live Mesh typically throttles the usage and does not use all available bandwidth. In my house, I have a number of computers going through a single router. My wife was a pretty heavy user of WoW for a time and none of my activity, including full throttle downloads of multiple gigs of data (not using Live Mesh) had no impact on her game.
    -steve
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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:45 PM
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  • yes true the task manager , or wait , or get more ram , increase your cache will help



    The only part of this reply that is correct, Dabur972, is "wait."
    While you can set the priority for moe.exe to low in Task Manager, that won't have any effect on another PC on the network and bandwidth utilization.
    -steve

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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 1:48 PM
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  • yes true the task manager , or wait , or get more ram , increase your cache will help



    The only part of this reply that is correct, Dabur972, is "wait."
    While you can set the priority for moe.exe to low in Task Manager, that won't have any effect on another PC on the network and bandwidth utilization.
    -steve

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    hi ,

    when you increase the priority of a program and decrease the prio of an other the program with higher prio tends to work faster , ...

    been using the mesh since it first came out , clicking realtime does increase performance and it has worked so far for us

    have a nice day
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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 2:39 PM
  • hi ,

    when you increase the priority of a program and decrease the prio of an other the program with higher prio tends to work faster , ...

    been using the mesh since it first came out , clicking realtime does increase performance and it has worked so far for us


    You're missing the point. The issue is network utilization - bandwidth on the LAN, not priority on the PC where Live Mesh is installed and running.
    -steve
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    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 3:28 PM
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  • Dabur972 you should be VERY wary of raising the priority of arbitrary processes to real-time.  To quote from Solomon and Russinovich's Inside Windows books: "Be aware that many important Windows kernel-mode system threads run in the real-time priority range, so if your process spends excessive time running in this range, it might be blocking critical system functions in memort manager, cache manager, local and network file systems, and even other device drivers."

    I would recommend leaving MOE alone.

    Trevor

    Tuesday, December 15, 2009 9:46 PM
  • Dabur972 you should be VERY wary of raising the priority of arbitrary processes to real-time.  To quote from Solomon and Russinovich's Inside Windows books: "Be aware that many important Windows kernel-mode system threads run in the real-time priority range, so if your process spends excessive time running in this range, it might be blocking critical system functions in memort manager, cache manager, local and network file systems, and even other device drivers."

    I would recommend leaving MOE alone.

    Trevor


    hi ,

    yeah i got it also , but till this day still no probs . and if it would crash it takes only 3 hours for the back up to run , experience and experiments , finding a thousand ways on how not to do it will lead to the good working ways , always have to compare btw

    have a nice day  
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    Wednesday, December 16, 2009 12:51 AM
  • We have DSL and due to our distance from the CO, it's not as fast as it's supposed to be. Bandwidth test at speakeasy shows it at 2488 kbps down and 421 kbps up. We got the highest bandwidth we could get at our distance which is the 2nd fastest.

    What is that feature called to limit bandwidth? Does that limit internet bandwidth used only, or does it limit local bandwidth as well? I have a home server and would hate to limit that bandwidth to internet speeds in the process.

    Please note that I'm not talking about when I edit a file or two and it uploads. I'm talking about during the initial sync/upload of my entire "My Documents" with the server. Also, when I moved my pictures out of my documents and into the "My Pictures" library that is a seperate folder/library in windows 7 instead of telling the server to move those files it deleted and re-uploaded them and I had the issue all over again for a while since that was about half of the size of "My Documents". Hopefully this doesn't happen when moved within the same library.

    Same with downloads. One or two and he's fine, but any more then that and his game is unplayable. Just rencently I was downloading a bunch of win 7 theme packs and it kicked him out.

    Wednesday, December 23, 2009 2:05 AM
  • Waldo 120, there is no feature to limit bandwidth without the use of an external program. The previous response was suggesting that you lower the priority of the process on the PC in Task Manager. You don't want to do this as it will not have any impact on the bandwidth utilization.
    For browser downloads, you can get a download manager add-on that has an option to throttle bandwidth usage by the download manager, but natively the browser will pull as fast as the connection and remote server allows.
    To manage bandwidth on your network to allow a PC on the network to have more and others less, your router must support configuring this. A feature like this is typically available on routers advertised as "Gaming" routers, specifically for the reasons you are encountering - Gamers want to control the availability of network resources for their online game.
    -steve
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    Wednesday, December 23, 2009 1:13 PM
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  • Live Mesh garbles outgoing sound on Vonage calls using my Time Warner Road Runner cable connection. I have to right click the live mesh icon and choose close to be sure that important calls are uninterupted. Also I have other PCs on my local area network not synching over the internet. That way I need to only close one of the live mesh icons before making calls. This seems like a pretty common problem that Microsoft should address.
    Saturday, April 17, 2010 9:06 PM
  • Just a note on this topic, Live Sync and Live Mesh NOT having the ability to set download and upload speed limits is the single reason we haven't deployed this for our situation. Just like uTorrent, you should be able to set the maximum throughput it will use.

    In our situation we (will be) sharing home movies and pictures to about 10 family members. So it isn't time sensitive if the video gets there in a day or a week. What people don't want is their bandwidth slammed when one of us adds new content.

    No one should really be giving the suggestion that "it is up to your router". I have a high end router with full QoS and if I let uTorrent, IE, or other file transfer software run at full speed - it definitely messes up Skype calls, online gaming, etc. Just do a "ping -t google.com" and let Live Sync/Mesh run wild with some big files. It will trash your latency.

    Please add bandwidth limitation settings to live sync. I've been waiting to use the product for ages.

    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 2:27 AM
  • mvrx, You may want to take your suggestion to the Live Sync discussion here - http://windowslivehelp.com 

     

    -steve



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    Monday, August 16, 2010 2:31 PM
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  • Live mesh consuming all available upload bandwidth on home and friends rural DSL networks (1.5 kbps down and 768 kbps up) using a consistent > 900 kbps upload. Brought both home wireless networks to a crawl for other users and the PC syncing. Bandwidth limitations are needed. Testing live mesh after trial with Dropbox using same files which did not consume all available upload bandwidth.
    Saturday, January 1, 2011 3:42 PM
  • Live mesh consuming all available upload bandwidth on home and friends rural DSL networks (1.5 kbps down and 768 kbps up) using a consistent > 900 kbps upload. Brought both home wireless networks to a crawl for other users and the PC syncing. Bandwidth limitations are needed. Testing live mesh after trial with Dropbox using same files which did not consume all available upload bandwidth.


    hi ,

    updated and patched ? probably not , ...

    check your settings with dropbox also , ...

    have a nice day


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    Sunday, January 2, 2011 6:45 AM
  • Live mesh consuming all available upload bandwidth on home and friends rural DSL networks (1.5 kbps down and 768 kbps up) using a consistent > 900 kbps upload. Brought both home wireless networks to a crawl for other users and the PC syncing. Bandwidth limitations are needed. Testing live mesh after trial with Dropbox using same files which did not consume all available upload bandwidth.

     

    For discussion of the new Windows Live Mesh (formerly Sync), (as well as the released Live Sync version) go here:

    http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=24

     

    -steve


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