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What is the definition of fake Referal??? RRS feed

  • Question

  • The question is simple, as we see that Admins have started deleting the fake referals..
    I m just wondering, how do you know which is a fake referal???

    I have points for 2 referal, and i know who those persons are... because they are my classmates..
    But they are completely inactive as they dont have access to internet..
    So we can say that those 2 accounts are completely inactive...

    Now from an Admin View it might seem as a Fake referal.. But still i have those points(Thank  God oops Thank Admin)

    But then the question is, how do you find out which are the fake referal??

    The only motive is to just make sure that, in the race of deducting fake points, some genuine points are not deducted, As I have only 108 points for the referals, it will hardly make any difference to me.. but it make difference to people who have high scores in it....

    So just give your views on this..
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:18 PM

Answers

  • I'm also having similar condition like you Varun. I've invited 2 friends, one of them is active and other inactive.

    But i think that the definition of fake referral is that those IDs that refer to common name, although IDs are different

    If different E-Mail IDs refer to somewhat common name, the IDs can be considered as fake.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:23 PM
  • but than you will find more than 100 varun and more than 10 Varun Modi
    So how can you distinguish them, when we go to make a email-id, the name slot is never empty...
    So we select user name like varun_modi_85 or something

    so you can get many such names.. so that can not be a criteria for fake..
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:29 PM
  • Yes man, the admits have already deleted the fake referral points for me (the ones that have the same prefix) in the start of the contest . And they have given back the points for the rest of the referrals that i made that didn't have any common name. And now they suddenly deleted all the points for that. I think they should do just and delete for others also. Why only me??

    I hope the admins are working on others too and come to a decision by tomorrow as its the last day.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:32 PM
  • @Varun - the names for all my referrals were different. Except for about 20 odd fake ids that i did in the start of the contest.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:34 PM
  • See friends, it might be the following case.

    It's easy to identify the receiver name, using some programming. If you come to know that the receiver's name is same for multiple IDs, referred by same person, its a clear case of fake referral.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:35 PM
  • but what if one does only few fake referrals, and about lots of referals, to different persons with different names. ? Does that mean that points for all those different ID's should also get deleted ?
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:36 PM
  • Well i think they followed just one simple funda....

    If you have done even a single fake referal, all your points for the referrals are deducted....
    @Harshil, is your referrals stand to 0 now, with the deduction???
    If that is the case, than I m right....

    In that case, its very hard to decide on anything...
    So I suggest something...
    Remove the referrals points for every Account... That way it will be very clear and clean point system.. Who have worked hard on other than referral will stand a better chance..

    Wat do you say Guys???
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:53 PM
  • I hope the admins will check the activities of all participants.. So it would be a fair game..
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:24 AM
  • i think that at actual the points should be given only for the referral of the active members only...
    So this can become one criteria, that if your referred friend is lets say in top 2000, you get the point for referring to that person... This way its very much clear that the fake referral wont get marks and we will maintain the consistency in the points allocation for the referrals...

    I think this is will be fair to all.. and no chances of making any mistake...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:24 AM
  • Wonderful idea Varun.. I think you can mail the admins regarding this...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:43 AM
  • Hey Varun  - My referrals points are now 0.
    I think the admins deleted the points even for the right referrals i made. and the right referrals i made, about 80% of them used to login in the site almost everyday to check their points, but didn't do any work in the forums. Does that mean that all points should be deleted  Even if most of them login to the site and dont do any activity.





    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:53 AM
  • I think that idea is good, only give points for those persons whose referred friends are below the 2000 rank .
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:56 AM
  • I think 10-20 refererals are allowed....
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:22 AM
  • There are many who did more than 20 referrals, and their points are not yet deleted Stick out tongue Action is taken for only few.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:38 AM
  • no dear it not true
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:28 AM
  • @Jabed - I know a few names who did so, but i dont want to mention. How can you say that this aint true. Man if you dont know anything, please dont comment on it.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:30 AM
  • Very Fair to say Mine all points of Refferrals are Terminated, I invited many friend although some of them are active in the contest.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:21 AM
  • u may be right
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:21 AM
  • Better to leave this matter for Admin!!
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:24 PM
  • Well, this is the Admin's work only, but we are only giving our view points on the topic.. Everyone want a fair way out of it.. only targeting few people wont prove the purpose.. its a good move, lets make it even better...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:41 PM
  • hey Vashistha - I dnot think there is much change in the rankings of yours even after the removal of the referrals.

    The admins are punishing severely and removing the points for all the referrals, even if they sense one fake referral.

    @Varun - Yes man, admins are joining hands and working on this thing, But i think its taking so much time for them to change or update the points for the single person. I think they do a fair move, and do the same for all the participants who have crossed 10K, and the ones who might cross 10K after the points are updated for these 15 days of activity. There is no use to check others as they are not going to make it to 10K.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:35 PM
  • Where is P Misra... I think he was on 4th or 3rd....
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:44 PM
  • Good idea Varun...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:56 PM
  •  vashistha_pathak_183f5b wrote:
    Where is P Misra... I think he was on 4th or 3rd....


    Prashant Misra's rank went down  a lot .

    273 Prashant Misra Prashant_Misra_e37d69

    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:08 PM

All replies

  • I'm also having similar condition like you Varun. I've invited 2 friends, one of them is active and other inactive.

    But i think that the definition of fake referral is that those IDs that refer to common name, although IDs are different

    If different E-Mail IDs refer to somewhat common name, the IDs can be considered as fake.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:23 PM
  • but than you will find more than 100 varun and more than 10 Varun Modi
    So how can you distinguish them, when we go to make a email-id, the name slot is never empty...
    So we select user name like varun_modi_85 or something

    so you can get many such names.. so that can not be a criteria for fake..
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:29 PM
  • Yes man, the admits have already deleted the fake referral points for me (the ones that have the same prefix) in the start of the contest . And they have given back the points for the rest of the referrals that i made that didn't have any common name. And now they suddenly deleted all the points for that. I think they should do just and delete for others also. Why only me??

    I hope the admins are working on others too and come to a decision by tomorrow as its the last day.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:32 PM
  • @Varun - the names for all my referrals were different. Except for about 20 odd fake ids that i did in the start of the contest.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:34 PM
  • See friends, it might be the following case.

    It's easy to identify the receiver name, using some programming. If you come to know that the receiver's name is same for multiple IDs, referred by same person, its a clear case of fake referral.
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:35 PM
  • but what if one does only few fake referrals, and about lots of referals, to different persons with different names. ? Does that mean that points for all those different ID's should also get deleted ?
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:36 PM
  • Well i think they followed just one simple funda....

    If you have done even a single fake referal, all your points for the referrals are deducted....
    @Harshil, is your referrals stand to 0 now, with the deduction???
    If that is the case, than I m right....

    In that case, its very hard to decide on anything...
    So I suggest something...
    Remove the referrals points for every Account... That way it will be very clear and clean point system.. Who have worked hard on other than referral will stand a better chance..

    Wat do you say Guys???
    Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:53 PM
  • I hope the admins will check the activities of all participants.. So it would be a fair game..
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:24 AM
  • i think that at actual the points should be given only for the referral of the active members only...
    So this can become one criteria, that if your referred friend is lets say in top 2000, you get the point for referring to that person... This way its very much clear that the fake referral wont get marks and we will maintain the consistency in the points allocation for the referrals...

    I think this is will be fair to all.. and no chances of making any mistake...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:24 AM
  • Wonderful idea Varun.. I think you can mail the admins regarding this...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:43 AM
  • Hey Varun  - My referrals points are now 0.
    I think the admins deleted the points even for the right referrals i made. and the right referrals i made, about 80% of them used to login in the site almost everyday to check their points, but didn't do any work in the forums. Does that mean that all points should be deleted  Even if most of them login to the site and dont do any activity.





    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:53 AM
  • I think that idea is good, only give points for those persons whose referred friends are below the 2000 rank .
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:56 AM
  • I think 10-20 refererals are allowed....
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:22 AM
  • There are many who did more than 20 referrals, and their points are not yet deleted Stick out tongue Action is taken for only few.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 7:38 AM
  • no dear it not true
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:28 AM
  • @Jabed - I know a few names who did so, but i dont want to mention. How can you say that this aint true. Man if you dont know anything, please dont comment on it.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 9:30 AM
  • Very Fair to say Mine all points of Refferrals are Terminated, I invited many friend although some of them are active in the contest.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:21 AM
  • u may be right
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:21 AM
  • Better to leave this matter for Admin!!
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:24 PM
  • Well, this is the Admin's work only, but we are only giving our view points on the topic.. Everyone want a fair way out of it.. only targeting few people wont prove the purpose.. its a good move, lets make it even better...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:41 PM
  • hey Vashistha - I dnot think there is much change in the rankings of yours even after the removal of the referrals.

    The admins are punishing severely and removing the points for all the referrals, even if they sense one fake referral.

    @Varun - Yes man, admins are joining hands and working on this thing, But i think its taking so much time for them to change or update the points for the single person. I think they do a fair move, and do the same for all the participants who have crossed 10K, and the ones who might cross 10K after the points are updated for these 15 days of activity. There is no use to check others as they are not going to make it to 10K.
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:35 PM
  • Where is P Misra... I think he was on 4th or 3rd....
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:44 PM
  • Good idea Varun...
    Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:56 PM
  •  vashistha_pathak_183f5b wrote:
    Where is P Misra... I think he was on 4th or 3rd....


    Prashant Misra's rank went down  a lot .

    273 Prashant Misra Prashant_Misra_e37d69

    Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:08 PM