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    I have one of those 3 packs for vista basic..when i told the shop owner that  i refurbish computers for charities he sold me this.. which is good as i needed a copy to install for myself, mostly..

    I'vr heard horror stories about these things being sold after having been reported stolen or returned for disposal though.. and the shop seemed a bit shady.. can I double check the number on the box to see if it's been reported or otherwise blocked?

    Thank you...

    Tuesday, February 22, 2011 10:52 PM

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    "Doccus" wrote in message news:8f812523-2b20-45d5-b889-01e5de24060f...
    Well, it seemed to work fine this time.. i wonder if it might have been because I ran it from a FAT32 formatted disc the first time.. 
    Here it is..
     Holding my breath..... ;-)


    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FDRYD-HF4RK-9QFP8
    Windows Product Key Hash: ZBpqpAXloSpl1W4CjkAuUrM0nok=
    Windows Product ID: 89581-OEM-7301012-28561
    Windows Product ID Type: 3
    Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
    Windows OS version: 6.0.6002.2.00010300.2.0.002
     
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43476
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43475
    Partial Product Key: 9QFP8
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 41400 minute(s) (28 day(s))
     

    You need to activate by phone - BE AWARE that it's not recommended to use OEM licenses on Apple machine, as the license is tied to the first machine on which the license is installed and activated - you will therefore need a separate license if you decide to use Parallels rather than BootCamp (or vice-versa)
     
    It looks OK to me.
     

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    I have one of those 3 packs for vista basic..when i told the shop owner that  i refurbish computers for charities he sold me this.. which is good as i needed a copy to install for myself, mostly..

    I'vr heard horror stories about these things being sold after having been reported stolen or returned for disposal though.. and the shop seemed a bit shady.. can I double check the number on the box to see if it's been reported or otherwise blocked?

    Thank you...


    The only person that posts on here that can check a Product Key before it is activated is Darin.  If he thinks he can check the number he will post back.  Under no circumstances put the full Product Key in any post.  Darin will tell you how much to post if he can check anything.
     
    IIRC you should receive three product key stickers with an individual different key with a system builder 3 pack.  One to be included (physically applied to) with each computer that the product is installed onto.  If this isn't what you got, you may be correct about a shady store.  If I am not accurate, Noel, Dan or Darin will correct my post.
    Wednesday, February 23, 2011 1:24 AM
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    OK thanks..i did open it up, as i deduced it unlikely he would be amenable to a refund if he were shady..

    I may have been mistaken about the 3pak ..although it does indeed say 3pk on the front but I suspect that it would have had three independent discs, not just 3 stickers..and it may have been parted out.

    I received  1 disc, 1 sticker, i book....

    The fact that I refurbish computers for charities only came up in conversation..  i was saying i needed the least expensive copy of windows he had, as it is becoming clear it os costing me more than I can afford to do this ,and making sure a legal copy of windows is installed on  each, on my own dime..i mean i'm on a disability pension too....

     As it happened he had this. and i needed a copy for sure

    If there is an issue with it, what is likely to happen.?. Will it install OK and I won't find out until I try to activate? or..?

     i asume that the OS stays with the comp, permanently, in any case..correct?

    Thank you very much.

    Wednesday, February 23, 2011 3:29 AM
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    OK thanks..i did open it up, as i deduced it unlikely he would be amenable to a refund if he were shady..

    I may have been mistaken about the 3pak ..although it does indeed say 3pk on the front but I suspect that it would have had three independent discs, not just 3 stickers..and it may have been parted out.

    I received  1 disc, 1 sticker, i book....

    The fact that I refurbish computers for charities only came up in conversation..  i was saying i needed the least expensive copy of windows he had, as it is becoming clear it os costing me more than I can afford to do this ,and making sure a legal copy of windows is installed on  each, on my own dime..i mean i'm on a disability pension too....

     As it happened he had this. and i needed a copy for sure

    If there is an issue with it, what is likely to happen.?. Will it install OK and I won't find out until I try to activate? or..?

     i asume that the OS stays with the comp, permanently, in any case..correct?

    Thank you very much.


    Correct about the last. An OEM product is always tied to the first computer (read motherboard) it is installed onto.
     
    I also believe you are correct in getting 3 of everything.  If you look at this Amazon.com web site, while it doesn't explain what you should receive you can get an idea of the price for a valid version of the 3 pack. ($403.90)
    Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:42 PM
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    To be honest, I do not know what is included in an OEM 3-pack (3 of everything or just 3 keys and 1 of everything else) but if you would like me to check the Product Keys, you would first need to install it on a computer (using one of the keys) and then run a Diagnostic Report. then after, you can change to the next key and run another diagnostic report and so on.

    (NOTE: you do not need to Activate the key to be able to run a Diagnostic Report. An OEM key is tied to the first PC it is activated on, so don't Activate the key and tie it to that PC, just to see if the key is good)

     

    To generate a Diagnostic Report, download and run the Genuine Diagnostics tool (MGADiag.exe) at this link http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 . Click "Continue" (ignore any error you may get), click the "Copy" button then “Paste” the report into a reply message in this thread.

     

    Thank you,

    Darin MS
    Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:33 AM
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    sorry to not get back sooner.. seems that it needs a 64bit version of MGAdiag. (im running 64 bit). i don't think windows compatibilty is gonna be much help there.. (isn't there a 32bit subsystem that can run stuff like this, or is it because of it's hardware access that it cant run in a VM?)..

    Is there a 64 bit version? i think my three days is gittin short...;-) i may just lock this one in and activate.. after all if it's OK i dont intend to uninstall it anyways..

    But not yet.. always cautious if my nose detects something off....

    Thanks

    Thursday, February 24, 2011 4:12 AM
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    sorry to not get back sooner.. seems that it needs a 64bit version of MGAdiag. (im running 64 bit). i don't think windows compatibilty is gonna be much help there.. (isn't there a 32bit subsystem that can run stuff like this, or is it because of it's hardware access that it cant run in a VM?)..

    Is there a 64 bit version? i think my three days is gittin short...;-) i may just lock this one in and activate.. after all if it's OK i dont intend to uninstall it anyways..

    But not yet.. always cautious if my nose detects something off....

    Thanks


    The version of MGAdiagnostics that is online at the link posted by Darin will run on any Windows version from XP onward (32 or 64 bit.)  If you are having any problems running it let us know of any error messges.
    Thursday, February 24, 2011 6:07 AM
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    Well, it seemed to work fine this time.. i wonder if it might have been because I ran it from a FAT32 formatted disc the first time.. 
    Here it is..
     Holding my breath..... ;-)


    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FDRYD-HF4RK-9QFP8
    Windows Product Key Hash: ZBpqpAXloSpl1W4CjkAuUrM0nok=
    Windows Product ID: 89581-OEM-7301012-28561
    Windows Product ID Type: 3
    Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
    Windows OS version: 6.0.6002.2.00010300.2.0.002
    ID: {E101AD86-E7BE-4F4E-BB0C-6EF6AE13B801}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows Vista (TM) Home Basic
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432
    TTS Error: 
    Validation Diagnostic: 
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Users\Nick\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{E101AD86-E7BE-4F4E-BB0C-6EF6AE13B801}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.0.6002.2.00010300.2.0.002</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-9QFP8</PKey><PID>89581-OEM-7301012-28561</PID><PIDType>3</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-616944989-3430164382-801344463</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Apple Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>iMac9,1</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Apple Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>    IM91.88Z.008D.B08.0904271717</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20090427000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>55333507018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Pacific Standard Time(GMT-08:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.0.6002.18005
    Name: Windows(TM) Vista, HomeBasic edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Vista, OEM_COA_NSLP channel
    Activation ID: bb4c2c10-dc0d-4ce6-8824-ee71ddb63c07
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 89581-00146-010-128561-02-1033-6000.0000-0542011
    Installation ID: 016986302421495856618360129733787702927663742981511082
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43473
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43474
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43476
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43475
    Partial Product Key: 9QFP8
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 41400 minute(s) (28 day(s))

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    N/A

    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: NAAAAAEAAgABAAEAAQABAAAABAABAAEAJJS0XBBynCn8gWp9yqjy9Pjib3b8m4DarFZGyg==

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information: 
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC APPLE Apple00
      FACP APPLE Apple00
      HPET APPLE Apple00
      MCFG APPLE Apple00
      ASF! APPLE Apple00
      SBST APPLE Apple00
      ECDT APPLE Apple00
      SSDT APPLE CpuPm
      SSDT APPLE CpuPm
      SSDT APPLE CpuPm


    Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:02 AM
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    "Doccus" wrote in message news:8f812523-2b20-45d5-b889-01e5de24060f...
    Well, it seemed to work fine this time.. i wonder if it might have been because I ran it from a FAT32 formatted disc the first time.. 
    Here it is..
     Holding my breath..... ;-)


    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-FDRYD-HF4RK-9QFP8
    Windows Product Key Hash: ZBpqpAXloSpl1W4CjkAuUrM0nok=
    Windows Product ID: 89581-OEM-7301012-28561
    Windows Product ID Type: 3
    Windows License Type: OEM System Builder
    Windows OS version: 6.0.6002.2.00010300.2.0.002
     
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43476
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=43475
    Partial Product Key: 9QFP8
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 41400 minute(s) (28 day(s))
     

    You need to activate by phone - BE AWARE that it's not recommended to use OEM licenses on Apple machine, as the license is tied to the first machine on which the license is installed and activated - you will therefore need a separate license if you decide to use Parallels rather than BootCamp (or vice-versa)
     
    It looks OK to me.
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    • Marked as answer by Doccus Friday, February 25, 2011 12:54 PM
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    Well, ok.. works for me.. i have no idea how to do that or where the phone no. is, though.. and if they're pacific time or always up. I assume it would tell me if i tried electronic activation, correct..?

    i guess then the other two should be ok too.. i believe they're still at the shop  where i got mine. if i decided to pick them up also...

    Thanks

    Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:22 PM
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    Thanks for your time..sorry if i seemed to be making something out of nothing.. i just get suspicious of too good to be true deals.... 

    Thanks again.. all went well , incidentally..

    Thursday, February 24, 2011 3:15 PM
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    "Doccus" wrote in message news:98cb8fa8-e755-4756-a89e-98fbfb49f17c...

    Thanks for your time..sorry if i seemed to be making something out of nothing.. i just get suspicious of too good to be true deals.... 

    Thanks again.. all went well , incidentally..


    You are very right to be concerned about too-good-to-be-true deals - most of them will result in a failed validation at some point, meaning lost time and money. It does appear, though, as if you may have got lucky in this instance!
     
    Hope all continues to go well.....
     

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    Thursday, February 24, 2011 8:44 PM
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