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MCPD based on WPF instead of WinForms

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  • Hi,

    I am a MCTS: .NET Framework 3.5, Windows Presentation Foundation Applications and would like to become a MCPD: Windows Developer 3.5.

    Unfortunately, the MCPD explicitly asks for MCTS: .NET Framework 3.5, Windows Forms Applications as pre-requisite.

    Does anybody know why the WPF certification is not accepted as pre-requisite? Are there any plans to accept this certification in the future?

    Thanks for your answers

    Markus

    Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:40 PM

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  • Hi

    THere are no plans for the MCPD 3.5 to have the MCTS WPF as a pre req. The main reasoning for this, is that there is a still a huge amount of winforms development being done specifically aimed at the server market which dont use WPF. So the rationale is that you still need to know Winforms to be a windows dev but you dont need to know WPF.

    A full explanation can be found on Gerry O'Briens blog post here (http://blogs.msdn.com/gerryo/archive/2008/06/10/windows-forms-for-net-3-5-what-are-we-thinking.aspx)





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    Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:30 AM
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  • Hi

    THere are no plans for the MCPD 3.5 to have the MCTS WPF as a pre req. The main reasoning for this, is that there is a still a huge amount of winforms development being done specifically aimed at the server market which dont use WPF. So the rationale is that you still need to know Winforms to be a windows dev but you dont need to know WPF.

    A full explanation can be found on Gerry O'Briens blog post here (http://blogs.msdn.com/gerryo/archive/2008/06/10/windows-forms-for-net-3-5-what-are-we-thinking.aspx)





    MCP,MCAD,MCSD.NET,MCTS*7,MCPD*3,MCITP*2,MCDBA Blog: http://certsandprogs.blogspot.com
    Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:30 AM
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  • Hi,

    You can use this MCTS, and achieve 2 more on .NET 3.5 so you can get the prerequisite for MCPD:Enterprise.

    Regards,
    Tibi
    MCT, MCDBA, MCSD.NET, MCPD 2.0(*.*), MCPD 3.5(*.*)
    Wednesday, February 11, 2009 8:55 AM
  • Hi,

    is this really true? The web site http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/mcpd/vstudio/2008/default.mspx#EEC states that MCTS certifocations on WinForm, ASP, ADO and WCF are required for the MCPD:Enterprise. In that case, the MCTS:WPF seems not to be of much use for further certification.

    Where did you get your information from?

    Regards,
    Markus
    Wednesday, February 11, 2009 12:13 PM
  • Tibor19 said:

    Hi,

    You can use this MCTS, and achieve 2 more on .NET 3.5 so you can get the prerequisite for MCPD:Enterprise.

    Regards,
    Tibi


    MCT, MCDBA, MCSD.NET, MCPD 2.0(*.*), MCPD 3.5(*.*)


    Unfortunately not, the only 2 that cant be used for the MCPD (any of them) are the MTCS WF and WPF.

    MCPD Ent 3.5 is ADO.NET, WCF, WinForms and ASP.NET and the MCPD Pro exam.

    MCP,MCAD,MCSD.NET,MCTS*7,MCPD*3,MCITP*2,MCDBA Blog: http://certsandprogs.blogspot.com
    Wednesday, February 11, 2009 1:02 PM
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  • What a bummer! I just got my MCTS (WPF) knowing that WPF is the latest and greatest and Winforms is primarily legacy only and now I learn that I can't use it as a prereq for an MCPD for Client-side development... I just read Gerry's blog and while I understand the argument that Winforms is still useful, I think it is catoring to an edge case. Maybe an MCPD should know some stuff about winforms, but right now you can be an MCPD without knowing any WPF and that is twice as ridiculous as not knowing any Winforms.

    Sooner or later, MS is going to have to update the MCPD reqs to provide a WPF route. Right now, if I were hiring for my team, a MCTS for WPF would be worth a lot more than an MCPD at this point and I don't think this should be the case.
    Monday, May 18, 2009 6:32 PM