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  • I bought a copy of Windows 7 full on ebay that has a legitimate COA however it is an "ENGLISH ROW NOT TO LATAM" copy. Can I use this in the US? If so will it restrict any features of windows?

    Here is the report....

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: N/A, hr = 0xc004f012
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-98YP9-G9BW8-QVK98
    Windows Product Key Hash: N2hiMigOFdqhcaPy5Y47HkZITL4=
    Windows Product ID: 00359-112-5288471-85407
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7600.2.00010300.0.0.003
    ID: {24BE1776-658C-4488-B18C-A615490F72D7}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Home Premium
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255
    TTS Error: 
    Validation Diagnostic: 
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: 
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watadminsvc.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\npwatweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watux.exe[Hr = 0x80070003]
    File Mismatch: C:\Windows\system32\wat\watweb.dll[Hr = 0x80070003]

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{24BE1776-658C-4488-B18C-A615490F72D7}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7600.2.00010300.0.0.003</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-QVK98</PKey><PID>00359-112-5288471-85407</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-3858059185-2889015966-3148194697</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.</Manufacturer><Model>GA-MA785GM-US2H</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Award Software International, Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>F8</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="4"/><Date>20100309000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>CAB83607018400E4</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Central Standard Time(GMT-06:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7600.16385

    Name: Windows(R) 7, HomePremium edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: 2e7d060d-4714-40f2-9896-1e4f15b612ad
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00359-00170-112-528847-00-1033-7600.0000-0362011
    Installation ID: 017232627415475910445773012661953734894826469661689175
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: QVK98
    License Status: Initial grace period
    Time remaining: 43200 minute(s) (30 day(s))
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 2/5/2011 8:53:37 PM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Not Registered - 0x80040154
    Admin Service: Not Registered - 0x80040154
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEABAABAAEAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAnJ+Itw13iDwYiFT5EDNsdMS46kUqz57uKj8=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information: 
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC GBT   GBTUACPI
      FACP GBT   GBTUACPI
      HPET GBT   GBTUACPI
      MCFG GBT   GBTUACPI
      SSDT PTLTD POWERNOW
      TAMG GBT   GBT   B0

    • Edited by ChaobSiroc Sunday, February 6, 2011 2:07 AM
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 12:34 AM

Answers

  • Hi Chaob,

     I have run the report thru my Key Information Tool and it shows as a Valid and Genuine Windows 7 Home Prem Retail FPP (Full Package Product) with no Activation history (never been activated). On a side note: my tool doesn't specifically say if this is a Full version or an Upgrade.

     Looks like you won the lottery.

     I have to say, it's nice to tell someone they have Genuine software, for a change.

     

    Thanks for posting,


    Darin MS
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, February 7, 2011 11:52 PM
    Monday, February 7, 2011 11:52 PM

All replies

  • I bought a copy of Windows 7 full on ebay that has a legitimate COA however it is an "ENGLISH ROW NOT TO LATAM" copy. Can I use this in the US? If so will it restrict any features of windows?

    Thanks!

    No - it should be fine (assuming the low probability of it not being a fake - eBay is renowned for being the source of fake software!
    install it ASAP, and post the MGADiag report here - we'll let you know if it is genuine or a fake, so that you can make a claim if needed.
     

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 1:08 AM
    Moderator
  • If it is a legit copy that can be used here in the US then I don't want to open or install it unfortunately. I had bought it to go with a New Sandy bridge build and the next day all boards and CPU's for that line were pulled from the market due to the intel recall so now I can't use it for supposedly 2 months until the fixed boards are available again.

    I took a picture of the COA here: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll21/ChaobSiroc/P1030073.jpg

    The COA differs greatly from my US retail copy which I had bought from newegg, namely the country of origin is Ireland and it has a date of "29-9-2009" (US version just says made in Puerto Rico with no date). But both the interwoven metallic strip and microprinting are present as they should be.

    [non-relevant information]I also bought a copy of window ultimate off ebay thats COA was a clear fake from a different seller, he will be refunding me for it thank goodness. If only Windows were cheaper I wouldn't have bothered with EBay... I have 5 computers running Windows 7 OEM or retail all of which I paid full price for and so I was just seeing if I could manage to get it a bit cheaper for once.[/non-relevant information] 
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 1:40 AM
  • Review: Bogus Windows 7 warning


    Carey Frisch
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 1:44 AM
    Moderator
  • If it is a legit copy that can be used here in the US then I don't want to open or install it unfortunately. I had bought it to go with a New Sandy bridge build and the next day all boards and CPU's for that line were pulled from the market due to the intel recall so now I can't use it for supposedly 2 months until the fixed boards are available again.

    I took a picture of the COA here: http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll21/ChaobSiroc/P1030073.jpg

    The COA differs greatly from my US retail copy which I had bought from newegg, namely the country of origin is Ireland and it has a date of "29-9-2009" (US version just says made in Puerto Rico with no date). But both the interwoven metallic strip and microprinting are present as they should be.

    [non-relevant information]I also bought a copy of window ultimate off ebay thats COA was a clear fake from a different seller, he will be refunding me for it thank goodness. If only Windows were cheaper I wouldn't have bothered with EBay... I have 5 computers running Windows 7 OEM or retail all of which I paid full price for and so I was just seeing if I could manage to get it a bit cheaper for once.[/non-relevant information] 

    You don't need to activate it - make sure that you opt out of automatic activation during the installation. The MGADiag report will work just as well un-activated.
    Your only other option is to phone the Activation line,  and speak to an operator, and see if they can tell you whether the Key is an MSDN/TechNet/BizSpark one or not. Do NOT let them get away with just telling you that it's 'valid', because while an MSDN Key could be valid today, it may be blocked tomorrow if it is abused.
    Either way, you MUST do it soon, or you'll be outside the eBay 45-day claims period - both methods require that you open the package to be able to read/use the key.

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 1:52 AM
    Moderator
  • Review: Bogus Windows 7 warning


    Carey Frisch
    I had seen this video and with it realized my 7 ultimate COA was fake however it does not show a ROW COA for me to compare this other copy against hence why I uploaded a picture. 
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 1:55 AM
  • It's what's inside the package that counts (the license) and nothing more.  In order to determine if the Windows 7 license is genuine or not, you have to install it and then run the  Microsoft Genuine Advantage Diagnostics Tool

    Conducting business with eBay sellers (who are, for the most part, individuals and not business entities), puts you at risk.  You may or may not get what was advertised.  There are currently hundreds of eBay listing for Microsoft software and over half of those are non-genuine, counterfeit or pirated.


    Carey Frisch
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:04 AM
    Moderator
  • @ Carey:

    I do have a spare HDD I could install it on I guess.

    Before I open the package could you also confirm that a windows license made in Ireland that states on the COA: "English Rest of World not to Latin America" (ENGLISH ROW NOT TO LATAM) will work exactly the same as a US copy made in Puerto Rico? If there is no difference between the US version and this "not to LATAM" version then I don't get the point of having the different COA. 

    If I open the package and it's legit I'm stuck with it and so I wouldn't want a copy that is going to have some missing features due to the fact it is for English users not in Latin America. 

    I tried googling for info on such a copy and have found nothing. 
    • Edited by ChaobSiroc Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:55 AM
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:41 AM
  • Misrepresentation of OEM software as "full" editions is getting rampant also.  I can see that misleading some folks.

    Colin Barnhorst
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:43 AM
    Answerer
  • @ Carey:

    I do have a spare HDD I could install it on I guess.

    Before I open the package could you also confirm that a windows license made in Ireland that states on the COA: "English Rest of World not to Latin America" (ENGLISH ROW NOT TO LATAM) will work exactly the same in the the Latin America that it says it is "not to" as a US copy made in Puerto Rico? If there is no difference between the two then a different country of origin and definite text saying "not to latam" would be pointless. 

    If I open the package and it's legit I'm stuck with it and so I wouldn't want a copy that is going to have some missing features due to the fact it is for English users not in Latin America. 

    I tried googling for info on such a copy and have found nothing. 

    As far as I am aware there is absolutely no difference between legitimate disks made anywhere in the world (of the same language) - I think the 'not latam' simply means that it cannot be sold in Latin America, presumably because of exclusivity clauses in MS's contracts.

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    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 2:52 AM
    Moderator
  • As far as I am aware there is absolutely no difference between legitimate disks made anywhere in the world (of the same language) - I think the 'not latam' simply means that it cannot be sold in Latin America, presumably because of exclusivity clauses in MS's contracts.
    Hmm, alright. I don't have time to run through an install tonight, I'll get the MGADT posted in this thread by tomorrow unless someone else has something to add about this "not to LATAM" clause between now and then.
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 3:03 AM
  • I bought a copy of Windows 7 full on ebay that has a legitimate COA however it is an "ENGLISH ROW NOT TO LATAM" copy. Can I use this in the US? If so will it restrict any features of windows?

    Thanks!


          ROW = Rest of World

          LATAM = Latin America

          That is strictly marketing terminolgy which means that particular item was not meant for sale or distribution in  Latin American countries.


    Carey Frisch
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 4:39 AM
    Moderator
  • I uploaded the report in my OP, let me know if it's genuine.
    Saturday, February 5, 2011 7:03 PM
  • Hi Chaob,

     I have run the report thru my Key Information Tool and it shows as a Valid and Genuine Windows 7 Home Prem Retail FPP (Full Package Product) with no Activation history (never been activated). On a side note: my tool doesn't specifically say if this is a Full version or an Upgrade.

     Looks like you won the lottery.

     I have to say, it's nice to tell someone they have Genuine software, for a change.

     

    Thanks for posting,


    Darin MS
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Monday, February 7, 2011 11:52 PM
    Monday, February 7, 2011 11:52 PM
  • Amazing, I got a really good deal on it even so I wasn't expecting it would be legit. The box says it is the full retail edition rather than the upgrade version. Thanks for looking into this for me.
    Tuesday, February 8, 2011 2:15 AM