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Add router fuction and firewall make it a total network device RRS feed

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  • You could have basically a small ISA server build in with firewall rules and DHCP. All you would need is two nics, and maybe a wireless nic to make it a wireless router. Then you would not have to set your router to forward ports, your system would do it for you. Plus you could add a bit- torrent client and ftp as well, All this is built in to windows 2003 SBS which is the foundation of this server. You could cache webpages and downloads (like windows updates) to make things faster, for multi computer homes. Just make it in a nicer interface then what admins are used to.
    Friday, May 4, 2007 10:26 PM

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  • Interesting idea, however given that this product is aimed towards households that have multiple pc's already. We would expect that they already have a router that performs all those functions.
    Sunday, May 6, 2007 6:23 PM
  • I totaly agree, WHS is kinda useless, whitout the internet connection sharing feature.
    Most home routers can't handle the many connections ie. bittorrent opens, whitout crashing.
    Whitout the ICS feature, the only option is to use 3rd party gateway software


    Sunday, May 6, 2007 8:01 PM
  • A firewall should NEVER be a file server at the same time. You NEVER want to use a machine that is dedicated to blocking the script kiddies and whatever else as the machine that you also stick all your files on.  If your firewall gets compromised for whatever reason (not set up correctly, inadequate password, etc, etc, etc,) you have also just opened up the machine that you potentially are saving sensitive data to. 

    Do you go into higher crime areas while your car has your financial records, credit cards, wallet and birth certificate, park the car in a dimly lit area and leave?  Why would you want to put a machine that potentially has data that is just as dangerous as the front line to the internet?

    There are multiple OtS router/firewalls (Linksys, Buffalo, D-Link, Netgear, etc.) that will do what you want for under a 100 USD.  There are also multiple OSes specifically made for this purpose, many of which are free that only use an older machine with 2 NIC's.  You are proposing something that while nice and easy to have would be an absolute security nightmare and would probably put WHS into the Realm of few of MS less then stellar achievements (BOB, Me, etc)
    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 12:00 PM
  • Why did MS include ICS on windows 2003 server then? it works fine there, WHS is based on 2003 server, no reason it souldent work there.
    Anyway its a HOME server, not a topsecret mission critical server.
    Having two servers running 24/7, when one can do the job, is just plain stupid.
    Those cheap home routers cant handle the many connections ie. bittorrent opens.
    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 12:39 PM
  • I completely agree with Jan H on this one.  It would be nice to have router/firewall capabilities as an option.  That's exactly how Small Business Server is configured with the option to turn ISA on.  Obviously if there was a security threat to running routing services on your file server, Windows Small Business Server would not come with that option.  It makes perfect sense to add this feature since networking, internet sharing, routing and firewall capabilities are the weak point of most all home networks.  This is where the basic home user is most likely to blunder and compromise their network.  I think your sell points on this product are "File/Print Shares, Automatic Backups, and Firewall security".  Those are the things that scare people the most because they know the least about them.
    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 2:14 PM