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Blocked VLK: Confusion between OEM and Volume Licensing versions of XP Pro

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A few years ago we purchased a few copies of Windows XP Professional for small business use. We ended up with some unused copies, and since we have now started transitioning to Windows 7, decided to sell them. A few days ago I received a complaint from a recent buyer that his Windows XP licensing key was blocked as a lost or stolen Volume License Key. I have contacted Microsoft customer service and confirmed that his licensing key, as well as the key for a remaining copy I was about to sell, are blocked. Unfortunately I was not able to get any other useful information from either of the representatives to whom I spoke, so I am hoping that someone here can help resolve my confusion over the relevant licensing issues.
The purchased installation packages consisted of a blue booklet marked "For distribution only with a new PC" (like the one in this image http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1600-1/photos/1355991812-fake-microsoft-stickers-confiscated-in-surabaya_1686351.jpg ), with a COA label attached to the back, and an installation CD with the gold hologram label. I was under the impression that this was an OEM version, but on checking the remaining installation CD I discovered that Pid=55274270 in i386/setupp.ini, which apparently indicates a Volume Licensed version. Note that I can't post MGADiag output because I haven't tried installing my copy, and the buyer of the other copy has already wiped his installation.
My questions are:
* Is a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro ever legitimately sold with an individual COA, or does the presence of a COA label on installation package containing a Volume Licensed version automatically indicate that it's counterfeit?
* Is there any situation under which it would be legitimate for a vendor to sell an installation package containing a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro?
* Is the program under which counterfeit copies of Windows XP can be submitted to Microsoft for replacement by a legitimate version still running? How can I determine whether the copy I have is counterfeit before submission? If it turns out that both copies are counterfeit, will they both be replaced under this program?
Friday, August 9, 2013 3:18 PM
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Thanks for the helpful responses. It's clear that the copies I bought should not have been sold, but no-one has addressed the question of whether there are any Volume Licensed versions of XP Pro that include an individual COA? If there aren't, the only obvious conclusion is that the packages I bought are counterfeit. Otherwise, can anyone suggest how to determine whether they are actually counterfeit, as opposed to genuine Volume Licensed versions that should not have been re-sold? Also, can anyone comment more definitively whether the counterfeit replacement program is still operational?
Volume License Keys are distributed solely on paper or by electronic means - they are not attached to stickers.
HOWEVER, since all Volume license are Upgrades, they require that the machine have a valid full license for Pro before the upgrade.
If the COA sticker on the machine itself is for Pro, and from the proper manufacturer, then they could be valid.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.- Proposed as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, August 16, 2013 2:37 PM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Monday, August 26, 2013 10:52 AM
Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:02 PMModerator
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By your description, it appears the Windows XP licenses are either pirated or counterfeit. Besides, Volume Licenses Volume License Agreements) cannot be resold to another party. You can try submitting a Software Counterfeit Report.
Carey Frisch
Friday, August 9, 2013 3:50 PMModerator -
A few years ago we purchased a few copies of Windows XP Professional for small business use. We ended up with some unused copies, and since we have now started transitioning to Windows 7, decided to sell them. A few days ago I received a complaint from a recent buyer that his Windows XP licensing key was blocked as a lost or stolen Volume License Key. I have contacted Microsoft customer service and confirmed that his licensing key, as well as the key for a remaining copy I was about to sell, are blocked. Unfortunately I was not able to get any other useful information from either of the representatives to whom I spoke, so I am hoping that someone here can help resolve my confusion over the relevant licensing issues.
The purchased installation packages consisted of a blue booklet marked "For distribution only with a new PC" (like the one in this image http://static3.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/a_scale_large/1600-1/photos/1355991812-fake-microsoft-stickers-confiscated-in-surabaya_1686351.jpg ), with a COA label attached to the back, and an installation CD with the gold hologram label. I was under the impression that this was an OEM version, but on checking the remaining installation CD I discovered that Pid=55274270 in i386/setupp.ini, which apparently indicates a Volume Licensed version. Note that I can't post MGADiag output because I haven't tried installing my copy, and the buyer of the other copy has already wiped his installation.
My questions are:
* Is a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro ever legitimately sold with an individual COA, or does the presence of a COA label on installation package containing a Volume Licensed version automatically indicate that it's counterfeit?
* Is there any situation under which it would be legitimate for a vendor to sell an installation package containing a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro?
* Is the program under which counterfeit copies of Windows XP can be submitted to Microsoft for replacement by a legitimate version still running? How can I determine whether the copy I have is counterfeit before submission? If it turns out that both copies are counterfeit, will they both be replaced under this program?
Where did you purchase the OS copies from? In any event it sounds like you have some counterfeit copies.
* Is a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro ever legitimately sold with an individual COA, or does the presence of a COA label on installation package containing a Volume Licensed version automatically indicate that it's counterfeit?
Volume licenses are never legitimately resold at all, with or without COAs. They are not transferable.
* Is there any situation under which it would be legitimate for a vendor to sell an installation package containing a Volume Licensed version of XP Pro?
See above, no.
* Is the program under which counterfeit copies of Windows XP can be submitted to Microsoft for replacement by a legitimate version still running? How can I determine whether the copy I have is counterfeit before submission? If it turns out that both copies are counterfeit, will they both be replaced under this program?
I am not certain about this, but seeing as how XP is going to be going End of Life in eight months, I seriously doubt that this program is still in force.
Friday, August 9, 2013 3:55 PM -
Thanks for the helpful responses. It's clear that the copies I bought should not have been sold, but no-one has addressed the question of whether there are any Volume Licensed versions of XP Pro that include an individual COA? If there aren't, the only obvious conclusion is that the packages I bought are counterfeit. Otherwise, can anyone suggest how to determine whether they are actually counterfeit, as opposed to genuine Volume Licensed versions that should not have been re-sold? Also, can anyone comment more definitively whether the counterfeit replacement program is still operational?
Saturday, August 10, 2013 5:41 PM -
The only definitive way to determine if a Windows XP license is genuine or not is to install it on a PC and then run and post a MGA Diagnostic Report:
MGA Diagnostic Report:
To properly analyze and solve problems with Activation and Validation, we need to see a full copy of the diagnostic report produced by the MGADiag tool (download and save to desktop - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012 )
Once downloaded, run the tool.Click on the Continue button, after a short time, the Continue button will change to a Copy button.Click on the Copy button in the tool (ignore any error messages at this point), and then paste (using either r-click/Paste, or Ctrl+V ) into your post.Carey Frisch
Saturday, August 10, 2013 8:20 PMModerator -
Thanks for the helpful responses. It's clear that the copies I bought should not have been sold, but no-one has addressed the question of whether there are any Volume Licensed versions of XP Pro that include an individual COA? If there aren't, the only obvious conclusion is that the packages I bought are counterfeit. Otherwise, can anyone suggest how to determine whether they are actually counterfeit, as opposed to genuine Volume Licensed versions that should not have been re-sold? Also, can anyone comment more definitively whether the counterfeit replacement program is still operational?
Volume License Keys are distributed solely on paper or by electronic means - they are not attached to stickers.
HOWEVER, since all Volume license are Upgrades, they require that the machine have a valid full license for Pro before the upgrade.
If the COA sticker on the machine itself is for Pro, and from the proper manufacturer, then they could be valid.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.- Proposed as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, August 16, 2013 2:37 PM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Monday, August 26, 2013 10:52 AM
Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:02 PMModerator