Sign in
Microsoft.com
 
Microsoft
 
 
 

locked
What's with the advertisments? RRS feed

 > 

  • General discussion

  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

    We already have to put up with ads in Windows Live Messenger and all over the web. We've all paid for Windows like seven times (assuming we've all upgraded from Windows 95 through all other releases to Vista) per machine. This application is really cool but no one's going to us it with ads taking up screen real estate. This is also why no one uses that "Windows Live Mail desktop" program or any other ad supported applications.

     

    Great work on the program guys but get rid of the advertising.

     

    Please.

     

    Thanks!

    Sunday, May 13, 2007 5:24 PM

All replies

  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote
    I agree - you only have to look at the success of Windows Messenger Plus that shows how badly people want to remove adverts  (even if it means downloading some potentially dodgy software to do it).Adverts, especially this big shouldn't be necessary in an application from Microsoft. You don't put adverts in Office, so why put them in here?
    Monday, May 14, 2007 2:11 AM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote
    Why put advert in SharedView? From which planet are guys? We all know of all internet services these days; you either pay for it and receive no ads, or use it free and be bombarded with adverts. Nothing comes cheap guys, if you want this services for free, you should put up with adverts. You don't see adverts in MS Office because you paid for it (if you don't steal it ;-)) ), look at wat Google is doing with all your data, they are selling your data for providing you with their services for free. At least MS ads are not shoved down your throat.
    Monday, May 14, 2007 5:58 PM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

     McAkins wrote:
    From which planet are guys? We all know of all internet services these days; you either pay for it and receive no ads, or use it free and be bombarded with adverts.

     

    Heh, dude what planet are YOU from? Everyone knows you can patch Messenger to remove the ads and 99% of banner ads can be blocked with stuff like eDexter.

     

    And if you had actually read my post you would have noted that we've already paid for Windows many times over and over and over.

     

     McAkins wrote:
    look at wat Google is doing with all your data, they are selling your data for providing you with their services for free

     

    That's not the point man, I don't care what people do with my usage data. Its not like Google is spamming me. And eDexter blocks google ads too anyway.

     

    There are several reasons for not including ads:

     

    1. Already touched on the "we've paid for Windows several times already" issue. This "product" is integrated into Windows, yes? As a replacement for NetMeeting, yes? NetMeeting didn't have ads, why should we have to suffer through ads to get the same functionality we already had? (I have the same issues with Live Messenger, et al, but its trivial to remove the ads.)

    2. I'd love to give this to my Mum so I can help her out when her computer isn't working properly but I won't until the ads are gone. Us young folks have grown up with advertising so we're bascially immune to it. However my Mum's getting up there and years and all these blinking and flashing and annoying ads don't exactly make for a stellar computing experience.

    3. Advertising is pollution.

    4. If Microsoft is really interested in getting people off goToMyPc or VNC or [insert random remote desktop clone here], forcing people to look at ads really isn't going to help. I believe this is why most of the Live services have been complete failures.

    5. Microsoft has spawned several of the richest people on the planet. Removing ads from this thing isn't going to directly affect any shareholder's bottom line because these people are already making so much freaking money that the small fractions of pennies these ads will generate are so close to zero they'll be rounded down for accounting purposes. These people make more money from selling a single copy of Office to someone who can't afford it anyway than they'll ever make from these ads. Remove the ads and the program will be successful. A successful program leads to sales of other programs developed by the same company. Thus removing ads, in the long run, will increase the bottom line of every shareholder. Same applies for all Live services and "applications".

     

    I mean, jeez, just think for a few instead of reacting. Why are DVR's so popular? One of the main reasons is that they allow us to not have to suffer through advertising pollution!

    Monday, May 14, 2007 6:47 PM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

    Thanks for the vigorous discussion on advertisements within SharedView. Your points provide us good feedback for future planning, and we do pay close attention to customer feedback. 

    To clarify a bit:

    • SharedView does run as a service in data centers (unlike NetMeeting), so there are ongoing costs to Microsoft.
    • The SharedView team is not part of Windows, nor does SharedView ship with Windows.  We are responsible for our own business, and our own profit/loss within the company.
    • Part of running a beta is to test out different models and to get customer feedback. The ads are in the beta to do just that :-)

    Regarding future use of advertisements in SharedView: we will announce more details at a later date, but have nothing to announce at this time.

     

    Thanks again for the feedback,

    Cameron

    Friday, May 18, 2007 7:12 PM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

    If this service is offered free of charge, and all they want is a small tower ad on the right side of the window, I say THANK YOU!

    These jokers that whine about ads on services that are free drive me insane.  That is like saying, "I bought the TV, so why do I have to see ads when I view free television?"  Wise up, if you bought the OS in the past, it was for the OS.  Buy an Apple and see what you get for FREE--they come up with new OS every other year and charge you more than $100 for the upgrades that Microsoft is, again, providing for FREE with their updates and new FREE services. 

    The tiny ads you see on FREE Microsoft products are hardly noticiable when compared to other free services like NetZero used to provide.  Or would you prefer to use a GOOGLE product that traces all your activities and stores it on their servers for years?  I would rather keep my privacy and see a small ad.

    Yes, give me these cool new features, that have NOTHING to do with the Office Suite or OS that I paid for, and I will be glad to not only view the ads, but click them if I have to, just to keep these great new services coming.  THANK YOU MICROSOFT!

    Sunday, May 27, 2007 12:26 AM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote
    What ads? I am not seeing any ads... Have they now been removed (at least for now)?
    Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:53 AM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

    Just want to add my two-penneth worth to this thread!

     

     Ogre13623 wrote:

    We already have to put up with ads in Windows Live Messenger and all over the web. We've all paid for Windows like seven times (assuming we've all upgraded from Windows 95 through all other releases to Vista) per machine.

     

    I don't really understand the mentioning of the operating system. SharedView is not the operating system, its a software product all of its own.

     

     Ogre13623 wrote:

     

     This application is really cool but no one's going to us it with ads taking up screen real estate. This is also why no one uses that "Windows Live Mail desktop" program or any other ad supported applications.

     

    Errr....I use them Smile

     

    Particularly Live Mail Desktop which I think is a fantastic product. And I don''t hide the ads either even though I am able to.

     

     Ogre13623 wrote:

     

    Great work on the program guys but get rid of the advertising.

     

    Please.

     

    Thanks!

     

     

    Ogre13623 has some good points and strong opinions but be aware that they are not everyone's opinions. I personally think that if someone is going to provide something for free then I don't mind if they want to show me ads. I don't mind. Ads are becoming part and parcel of our online life and if it means I get something for free that's OK by me.

     

    My only comment would be...what if I am using SharedView behind a corporate firewall that doesn't allow internet access? Ads won't be displayed so where is the revenue stream for Microsoft then?

     

    -Jamie

     

     

     

    Monday, June 25, 2007 11:47 PM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote

    Hi Jamie,

     

    Regarding your last comment:

    ...What if I am using SharedView behind a corporate firewall that doesn't allow internet access? Ads won't be displayed so where is the revenue stream for Microsoft then?

     

    Because SharedView is a service on the internet, and because all session traffic goes through the service first, you cannot use SharedView behind a corporate firewall that doesn't allow internet access. 

     

    Hope this helps,

    Cameron

     

    Thursday, June 28, 2007 6:11 PM
  • Discussion
    Sign in to vote
    0
    Sign in to vote
     Cameron wrote:

    Hi Jamie,

     

    Regarding your last comment:

    ...What if I am using SharedView behind a corporate firewall that doesn't allow internet access? Ads won't be displayed so where is the revenue stream for Microsoft then?

     

    Because SharedView is a service on the internet, and because all session traffic goes through the service first, you cannot use SharedView behind a corporate firewall that doesn't allow internet access. 

     

    Hope this helps,

    Cameron

     

     

    Yeah, i realised that a while after I posted Smile

     

    Would it be churlish to say that the use of http was chosen BECAUSE that would mean you could serve ads. WHoops, did I say that out loud? Smile   Actually going back to what I said earlier I don't care if that IS the reason. If you're giving us something for nothing then I don't mind ads.

     

    Thanks Cameron!

    -Jamie

     

    Friday, July 6, 2007 5:55 AM