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    Not Genuine error message issue

    I mistakenly installed a COA key XP Pro Sp2 on my laptop which was the same copy of Win XP pro I already had running on my Desktop PC, no I am not cheap I own two XP Pro CD's both are valid MS products. Today I decided to removed the said O/S from the laptop ( displayed not Genuine XP) after doing this my Desktop PC's XPpro went to the state "this is not Genuine Win XP".  I had no issues prior to the laptop O/S install...

    Can I resolve this without buying a new key?  I bought this O/S new in the package,  I do not recall the merchant I bought it from so I can go back to them unless I can find documentation.

    My log shows Invalid product key however have have the COA, original CD, everything looks like the genuine too me,( b/c it is ) just for grins I checked MS COA conterfeit gallery images, in oval window with threads ect are correct, ect, ect.

    Thanks in advance,

    Allen

    ccWGA Diagnostic Data (1.5.0530.2):
    --------------------
    Genuine Validation Status: Invalid Product Key
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-V8KFQ-MRP87-34BY3
    Windows Product Key Hash: J23KEwb2wntvnoYR8vp5Uc2yE60=
    Windows Product ID: 55274-640-1110495-23988
    Windows Product ID Type: 1
    Windows License Type: Volume
    Windows OS version: 5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro
    Download Center code: NSLQRG
    ID: d4d11235-6b87-4425-9daa-50d2ba9d89a2
    Is Admin: Yes
    AutoDial:
    Registry: 0x0
    WGA Version: Registered, 1.5.532.2.
    Signature Type: Microsoft.
    Validation Diagnostic:

    Scan: Complete
    Cryptography: Complete

    Office Status: 100
    Office Diagnostics:

    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>d4d11235-6b87-4425-9daa-50d2ba9d89a2</UGUID><Version>1.5.0530.2</Version><OS>5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro</OS><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-34BY3</PKey><PID>55274-640-1110495-23988</PID><PIDType>1</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2000478354-1993962763-854245398</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Sony Corporation</Manufacturer><Model>PCV-J150(UC)</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Award Software, Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>ACPI BIOS Revision 1003</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="3"/><Date>20010221000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>0DAE389F0184A059</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>US Mountain Standard Time(GMT-07:00)</TimeZone></MachineData>   <Software><Office><Result>100</Result><Products><Product GUID="{91110409-6000-11D3-8CFE-0050048383C9}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office XP Professional</Name><Ver>10</Ver><Val>B0FE3CF5B09A4CC</Val><Hash>irTOVV2o8iNai0WK+f4ih54NEIA=</Hash><Pid>54186-763-6793343-17748</Pid></Product></Products></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

    Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:30 AM

Answers

  • Net79,

    The installation of XP that is on the Sony PCV-J150(UC) is a Volume Licensing edtion of XP Pro that was installed using an Invalid Product Key.

    Not sure what OS you say you bought new in the package, but if you bought a Volume Licensing edition "new in package" then it is most likely not genuine.

    Your Sony most likely came from Sony with a Windows OS installed and licensed.  Look on the Sony computer or in the materials that came with the computer to see if you have a Certificate of Authenticty (COA).  If you have one, tell us about the COA.  Tell us:

    1.  What edition of Windows XP is it for, Home, Pro, or Media Center?

    2.  Does it read "OEM Software" or "OEM Product" in black lettering?

    3.  Or, does it have the computer manufacturer's name in black lettering?  We would expect it to read "Sony" in your case.

    4.  DO NOT post the Product Key.

    Not sure what to look for?  Click here:  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/en/coa.mspx

    Monday, June 19, 2006 2:13 AM
  • Hi, I have a Thinkpad Z60M purchased it as a New Factory Seal Closeout from a ebay vender 2/6/07 and it came sealed in a Lenovo box everything working ok, but!! the COA product key on the bottom  is invalid, and not the one in the computer. The COA is green with all marking that Microsoft said it should have, except their no mention of OEM Software or OEM Product,  just Windows Xp Professional with  Lenovo Singapore in black below it. I would like to use the original one, any idea.

     

    Thank You

    jcr46385 

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 12:24 AM
  • Jcr46385,

    Please follow these steps for assistance:

    Step 1 is to run the utility at this link http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012, then click the Windows tab, click the "Copy" button, then paste the report into a response in this thread.

    You already provided the following info:

    Step 2 is to look on the computer or with the materials you received with the computer or with your retail purchase of  Windows to see if you have a Certificate of Authenticity (COA).  If you have one, tell us about the COA.  Tell us:

    1.  What edition of Windows XP is it for, Home, Pro, or Media Center, or another version of Windows?

    2.  Does it read "OEM Software" or "OEM Product" in black lettering?

    3.  Or, does it have the computer manufacturer's name in black lettering?

    4.  DO NOT post the Product Key.

    Not sure what to look for?  See this page for reference:  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/en/coa.mspx

     

    It is expected that the CoA on an IBM ThinkPad would have Lenovo on it because Lenovo is the manufacturer of newer IBM ThinkPads.

    It is expected that the installed Product Key for the original installation of XP on a major manufacturer computer to NOT match the Product Key on the CoA.  This is due to the nature of how the OS is installed onto the hard disk drive of new computers.

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 2:03 AM
  • Hi, is this what you need? By the way, original AOC on the laptop botton has no OEM in it.

    Thank You

    jcr46385

     

     

     

    Diagnostic Report (1.7.0012.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Detailed Status: N/A
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-RY7BM-HM3KT-BKVRW
    Windows Product Key Hash: 6994t4LQCbvkXhtNbqQCL4+auQs=
    Windows Product ID: 76487-OEM-2211906-00107
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro
    ID: b6dbd7e5-024b-4bc0-8151-6b3689262324
    Is Admin: Yes
    AutoDial:
    Registry: 0x0
    WGA Version: Registered, 1.7.18.5
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Product Name: N/A
    Architecture: N/A
    Build lab: N/A
    TTS Error: N/A
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: 0
    File Exists: Yes
    Version: 1.7.18.5
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: Microsoft
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: Microsoft

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: Failed to retrieve file version. - 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: FCEE394C-3178-80070002_B4D0AA8B-469-80070002

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>b6dbd7e5-024b-4bc0-8151-6b3689262324</UGUID><Version>1.7.0012.0</Version><OS>5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro</OS><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-BKVRW</PKey><PID>76487-OEM-2211906-00107</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1975879056-2772116843-2672255141</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>IBM</Manufacturer><Model>253176U</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>IBM</Manufacturer><Version>77ET64WW (1.24 )</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="33"/><Date>20070227000000.000000+000</Date><SLPBIOS>LENOVO,LENOVO</SLPBIOS></BIOS><HWID>20073D07018400E2</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Central Standard Time(GMT-06:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>2</stat><msppid></msppid><name>IBM Corporation</name><model></model></SBID><OEM/></MachineData>   <Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

     

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 1:00 PM
  • Jcr46385,

     

    According to your mgadiag report, your installation of XP Pro on you IBM ThinkPad is Genuine.

     

    This is good: Validation Status: Genuine

    This is expected:  Windows Product ID: 76487-OEM-2211906-00107

    This means the installed XP is from a major manufacturer such as Lenovo:  Windows License Type: OEM SLP

     

    An OEM CoA will have either the manufacturer's name (in your case, Lenovo) OR the words OEM Product/OEM Software, but not both.

     

    And again, it's entirely expected that the PK installed on the computer would NOT match the PK on the CoA.  It's due to how major manufacturers put XP on the many thousands and thousands of computers they manufacture every day.

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 3:49 PM
  • Hi Dan, My last ?s why is the product key on laptop botton is invalid, even when it wasn't being used, what good is it being on the COA if it is invalid? and the one installed on the laptop is a factory replacement.

     

    I read that product keys were being hijack caming from oversea and that why the one installed on the machine is a factory replacement and that i gotto live with it, That a bummer!!

    Thank You For Your Insight.

    jcr46385   

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 4:35 PM
  • Great infomation for users to understand

     

    Thanks Dan

     

     

    Thank you,

    Darin Smith

    MGA Forum Program Manager

    --------------------------------------------------------
    All Users: Please go to http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1255325&SiteID=25 before posting a question.

    --------------------------------------------------------

    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:41 PM
  • Hi Dan, their are lot more like me on web,who needs information in laymen terms, so it will sink in faster and i been around computing since early 80s. Now i'm more comfortable with the laptop. Next project is, their are to many Think.* programs blogging down the system, and i don't need all those Bells & Whisters, since i'm out of the workplace.

    Thanks Again

    jcr46385

    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:36 PM

All replies

  • Net79,

    The installation of XP that is on the Sony PCV-J150(UC) is a Volume Licensing edtion of XP Pro that was installed using an Invalid Product Key.

    Not sure what OS you say you bought new in the package, but if you bought a Volume Licensing edition "new in package" then it is most likely not genuine.

    Your Sony most likely came from Sony with a Windows OS installed and licensed.  Look on the Sony computer or in the materials that came with the computer to see if you have a Certificate of Authenticty (COA).  If you have one, tell us about the COA.  Tell us:

    1.  What edition of Windows XP is it for, Home, Pro, or Media Center?

    2.  Does it read "OEM Software" or "OEM Product" in black lettering?

    3.  Or, does it have the computer manufacturer's name in black lettering?  We would expect it to read "Sony" in your case.

    4.  DO NOT post the Product Key.

    Not sure what to look for?  Click here:  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/en/coa.mspx

    Monday, June 19, 2006 2:13 AM
  • Hi, I have a Thinkpad Z60M purchased it as a New Factory Seal Closeout from a ebay vender 2/6/07 and it came sealed in a Lenovo box everything working ok, but!! the COA product key on the bottom  is invalid, and not the one in the computer. The COA is green with all marking that Microsoft said it should have, except their no mention of OEM Software or OEM Product,  just Windows Xp Professional with  Lenovo Singapore in black below it. I would like to use the original one, any idea.

     

    Thank You

    jcr46385 

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 12:24 AM
  • Jcr46385,

    Please follow these steps for assistance:

    Step 1 is to run the utility at this link http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52012, then click the Windows tab, click the "Copy" button, then paste the report into a response in this thread.

    You already provided the following info:

    Step 2 is to look on the computer or with the materials you received with the computer or with your retail purchase of  Windows to see if you have a Certificate of Authenticity (COA).  If you have one, tell us about the COA.  Tell us:

    1.  What edition of Windows XP is it for, Home, Pro, or Media Center, or another version of Windows?

    2.  Does it read "OEM Software" or "OEM Product" in black lettering?

    3.  Or, does it have the computer manufacturer's name in black lettering?

    4.  DO NOT post the Product Key.

    Not sure what to look for?  See this page for reference:  http://www.microsoft.com/resources/howtotell/en/coa.mspx

     

    It is expected that the CoA on an IBM ThinkPad would have Lenovo on it because Lenovo is the manufacturer of newer IBM ThinkPads.

    It is expected that the installed Product Key for the original installation of XP on a major manufacturer computer to NOT match the Product Key on the CoA.  This is due to the nature of how the OS is installed onto the hard disk drive of new computers.

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 2:03 AM
  • Hi, is this what you need? By the way, original AOC on the laptop botton has no OEM in it.

    Thank You

    jcr46385

     

     

     

    Diagnostic Report (1.7.0012.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Detailed Status: N/A
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-RY7BM-HM3KT-BKVRW
    Windows Product Key Hash: 6994t4LQCbvkXhtNbqQCL4+auQs=
    Windows Product ID: 76487-OEM-2211906-00107
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro
    ID: b6dbd7e5-024b-4bc0-8151-6b3689262324
    Is Admin: Yes
    AutoDial:
    Registry: 0x0
    WGA Version: Registered, 1.7.18.5
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Product Name: N/A
    Architecture: N/A
    Build lab: N/A
    TTS Error: N/A
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: 0
    File Exists: Yes
    Version: 1.7.18.5
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: Microsoft
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: Microsoft

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: Failed to retrieve file version. - 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: FCEE394C-3178-80070002_B4D0AA8B-469-80070002

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>b6dbd7e5-024b-4bc0-8151-6b3689262324</UGUID><Version>1.7.0012.0</Version><OS>5.1.2600.2.00010100.2.0.pro</OS><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-BKVRW</PKey><PID>76487-OEM-2211906-00107</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1975879056-2772116843-2672255141</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>IBM</Manufacturer><Model>253176U</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>IBM</Manufacturer><Version>77ET64WW (1.24 )</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="33"/><Date>20070227000000.000000+000</Date><SLPBIOS>LENOVO,LENOVO</SLPBIOS></BIOS><HWID>20073D07018400E2</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Central Standard Time(GMT-06:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>2</stat><msppid></msppid><name>IBM Corporation</name><model></model></SBID><OEM/></MachineData>   <Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/></Office></Software></GenuineResults> 

     

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 1:00 PM
  • Jcr46385,

     

    According to your mgadiag report, your installation of XP Pro on you IBM ThinkPad is Genuine.

     

    This is good: Validation Status: Genuine

    This is expected:  Windows Product ID: 76487-OEM-2211906-00107

    This means the installed XP is from a major manufacturer such as Lenovo:  Windows License Type: OEM SLP

     

    An OEM CoA will have either the manufacturer's name (in your case, Lenovo) OR the words OEM Product/OEM Software, but not both.

     

    And again, it's entirely expected that the PK installed on the computer would NOT match the PK on the CoA.  It's due to how major manufacturers put XP on the many thousands and thousands of computers they manufacture every day.

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 3:49 PM
  • Hi Dan, My last ?s why is the product key on laptop botton is invalid, even when it wasn't being used, what good is it being on the COA if it is invalid? and the one installed on the laptop is a factory replacement.

     

    I read that product keys were being hijack caming from oversea and that why the one installed on the machine is a factory replacement and that i gotto live with it, That a bummer!!

    Thank You For Your Insight.

    jcr46385   

    Sunday, May 6, 2007 4:35 PM
  • Jcr46385,

     

    Please explain why you think the Product Key on the CoA is invalid.

    Monday, May 7, 2007 3:35 AM
  • Hi Dan, I find this information on Xp product key at this site below and the way i read it, if i reinstall Xp i will use the original product key on the laptop CoA and activate it and retired mfg bulk key. is that right in layman terms.

    jcr46385

     

    http://www.michaelstevenstech.com

    Monday, May 7, 2007 8:44 PM
  • Jcr46385,

     

    You are correct.

     

    The Product Key that was used on your laptop is IBM's/Lenovo's "bulk" or "universal" or "deployment" Product Key for OEM SLP installations of XP Pro.  If you use the forum search and search on the part of the Product Key that is shown by the report, RY7BM-HM3KT-BKVRW, you'll get 16 hits.  If you look at each one, you'll see they are all OEM SLP installations of XP Pro, and if you look in the block of text at the bottom of the report in what the Microsoft guys call the XML Blob, you'll see every one of them is an IBM/Lenovo computer.

     

    If you had need to do a reinstallation or clean installation of XP Pro on your IBM/Lenovo, and the media you used required the inputting of a Product Key (most of the time the manufacturer's recovery CD does not require inputting a PK), you would use the one on your laptop's CoA.  This PK would work for XP Setup but it cannot be automatically activated.  (This keeps someone from copying your PK and activating another installation of XP Pro with the PK on your laptop, which would deactivate your laptop.)  To activate, you have to do a Telephonic Activation using the Activation Wizard.

     

    BTW, thanks for taking the time be be concerned and learn about about whether your installed Microsoft products are Genuine!

    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 2:36 PM
  • Great infomation for users to understand

     

    Thanks Dan

     

     

    Thank you,

    Darin Smith

    MGA Forum Program Manager

    --------------------------------------------------------
    All Users: Please go to http://forums.microsoft.com/Genuine/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1255325&SiteID=25 before posting a question.

    --------------------------------------------------------

    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 6:41 PM
  • Hi Dan, their are lot more like me on web,who needs information in laymen terms, so it will sink in faster and i been around computing since early 80s. Now i'm more comfortable with the laptop. Next project is, their are to many Think.* programs blogging down the system, and i don't need all those Bells & Whisters, since i'm out of the workplace.

    Thanks Again

    jcr46385

    Tuesday, May 8, 2007 10:36 PM
  • Dan, I hope its ok to add to this thread. My questions relate to this. 

       #1)First I bought a IBM netvista off E-bay, (I have not receieved it yet) but it is advertised with a COA sticker for XP pro but with HD cleaned off. It is my understanding I can use the COA to reinstall XP pro, is this the product key, I will use?

    #2) I was told I can get an original restore disc from the manufacturer for about $20, well, i called IBM and i can get an original disc,for about $55 shipped, but they cant tell me if it is SP2 or not, I know from experience if u have SP2 and u have to use the sp1 disc u have to do a clean install and u will loose all data unless u back it up. I prefer to use XP Pro SP2. Also IBM only asks me for machine model, it sounds like I am getting another bulk product key. Am I correct about this?

    #3) I want to know if i have a copy of Windows XP pro sp2, can I use the COA to install as long as the COA says XP Pro?

    also I have 3 computers with original OS and i installed a program to read the key codes, but the COAs are all different. Now Im understanding what u r writing is these r factory installs and use a different product key. Is there a need or reason to update these to the COA on the sticker?

    Tuesday, July 17, 2007 7:14 PM
  • LL,

     

    The best bet would be using the sOEM software directly from IBM.  As far as a bulk key it more than likely will be a SLP OEM install. Also you may download SP2 from Microsoft.com. IBM will probabably ship the drivers for your make/model. If not possibly you will have to download them from IBM. 

     

     

    Thank you

     

    Stephen Holm, MS

    Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:25 PM
  • TY for your reply.

      I dont have a problem buying the software from IBM, but im sure it comes in its original XP pro form and not service pack 2. I do have a service pack 2 disc from MS , but if i have a problem, I am unable to do a windows repair, because the disc is earlier version than SP2

    I am forced to do a clean install everytime. also , it takes several hours to update drivers, windows etc, I wish there was a way to obtain a service pack 2 version for my machine.

    I do have a copy of windows, that requires a key, can i use the COA on the side of the case?

     

     

    Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:22 AM
  •  LL2525 wrote:

    Dan, I hope its ok to add to this thread. My questions relate to this. 

       #1)First I bought a IBM netvista off E-bay, (I have not receieved it yet) but it is advertised with a COA sticker for XP pro but with HD cleaned off. It is my understanding I can use the COA to reinstall XP pro, is this the product key, I will use?

     

    You are describing a somewhat common scenario where a wholesaler will purchase a large lot of computers from a larger corporation that was the original purchaser.  They originally purchased the IBM computers with OEM licenses for XP Pro, and the affixed CoAs are the evidence of this.  This corporation would have then used their Volume Licensing Key to install and manage XP Pro they way they wanted to over the course of several years.  When it came time to get new computers, the corporation's IT staff would have used a disk wiping program to remove the entire contents of the hard disk drives on these old computers, a very wise security precaution, and then would have sold the used IBMs as is to one or more wholesalers.  The computers are still perfectly legitimately licensed to run XP Pro, and the task at hand for the buyer is to get some sort of media that can install the licensed software.

     

    That's where you stand right now.  We would expect the Product Key (PK) on the Certificate of Authenticity (CoA) on the computer to be authentic, and that PK can be used to install and OEM license for XP Pro onto this computer.  Depending upon which media you have, you may or may not need to ever input the PK into XP setup.

     

    If you use a generic hologrammed XP CDROM that comes with the systembuilder/OEM license for XP Pro, you will need to enter the PK on the CoA into XP Setup, and then when Setup is finished and XP is installed, you will have to do a Telephonic Activation.

     

     LL2525 wrote:
    #2) I was told I can get an original restore disc from the manufacturer for about $20, well, i called IBM and i can get an original disc,for about $55 shipped, but they cant tell me if it is SP2 or not, I know from experience if u have SP2 and u have to use the sp1 disc u have to do a clean install and u will loose all data unless u back it up. I prefer to use XP Pro SP2. Also IBM only asks me for machine model, it sounds like I am getting another bulk product key. Am I correct about this?

     

    It is true that you cannot use an XP SP1 CD to do a repair reinstallation on an XP SP2 installation.  However, this is probably a moot point with regard to what IBM is going to send you, because as a rule the Recovery CDs that come from major manufacturers do not work like Microsoft XP installaton CDs (Dell is the one exception I am aware of).  Most Recovery CDs contain the bit-by-bit digital snapshot or image of the standard installation of XP used by that manufacturer, and they lay down that image like a Ghost CD would work, wiping the hard disk drive first and then imaging it back to the original as-shipped condition.

     

    If IBM's Recovery Cds work like most, you can't use them to repair an XP installation.

     

    If you have an SP1 installation that needs a repair reinstallation, you have to use an SP1 CD.

     

     LL2525 wrote:
    #3) I want to know if i have a copy of Windows XP pro sp2, can I use the COA to install as long as the COA says XP Pro?

    also I have 3 computers with original OS and i installed a program to read the key codes, but the COAs are all different. Now Im understanding what u r writing is these r factory installs and use a different product key. Is there a need or reason to update these to the COA on the sticker?

     

    The Product Keys on CoAs affixed to computers are by definition always going to be OEM PKs, so the only Microsoft CD that is going to work with these PKs is the systembuilder/OEM CD.  CDs that would come in a retail box (both upgrade and full) are not going to work, and Volume Licensing CDs are not going to work, either.

     

    There is no need or reason to update the manufacturer's standard deployment PK to the PK on the CoA.

     

    As an exercise, take the PKs from these three original installations and search the forum using the last three groups of characters on these PKs.  Each search result will include someone's mgadiag report output.  Then look in the text at the end of the report and my prediction is that the brand of the computer of the report will be the same as each of yours.

     

    Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:04 PM
  •  LL2525 wrote:

    TY for your reply.

      I dont have a problem buying the software from IBM, but im sure it comes in its original XP pro form and not service pack 2. I do have a service pack 2 disc from MS , but if i have a problem, I am unable to do a windows repair, because the disc is earlier version than SP2

    I am forced to do a clean install everytime. also , it takes several hours to update drivers, windows etc, I wish there was a way to obtain a service pack 2 version for my machine.

    I do have a copy of windows, that requires a key, can i use the COA on the side of the case?

     

     

    If you decided to go with the IBM Recovery CDs and they were at the SP1 level, you could address that by

    1.  Applying SP2 thru Windows Updates

    2.  Applying the 80-90+ additional Windows Updates that have come out since SP2

    3.  Installing all of your personal programs and making all of the settings and customizations to the computer as desired

    4. Then, when it's set up exactly how you like and all your data is in place, use a disk imaging program to take a bit-by-bit snapshot of the contents of the hard disk drive.  [Norton Save and Restore, Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image etc are examples of such disk imaging programs.  DriveImageXML is a freeware disk imaging program.]  This is now your base image.

    5.  Set the disk imaging program to automatically take new backup images periodically, either in an incremental manner or differential manner, or if you prefer, as full backups.  This protects newly generated data as well as changes to your base configuration, such as new programs or new user settings.

     

    So this way, you take advantage of the speed at which a disk imaging backup program can recover from a disaster.

     

    Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:17 PM