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Problem with Top Answerers List RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi Gurus,

    My name was displayed at 7th position under Top Answerers List in SharePoint Programming forum. But now it wont display my name after migration.

    It displays the user who answered for 3 threads. Also I have answred more than 5 threads in last 3 days, still my name is not there.

    Thanks,
    Gopinath D - http://sharepointsnippets.com
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 5:51 PM

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  • Click on one of the headings, the last one on the right, I think it is "Answers" and they will be arranged int the order that will be pleasing to  yoiur heart:)
    AlexB
    Friday, April 3, 2009 3:05 AM
  • It is still screwed up.  The scores are wildly fluctuating.  The best evidence is looking at my scores on the main MSDN page, I appear both in Moderators and regular users with two very different numbers.
    Hans Passant.
    Friday, April 3, 2009 9:29 AM
  • It is still screwed up.  The scores are wildly fluctuating.  The best evidence is looking at my scores on the main MSDN page, I appear both in Moderators and regular users with two very different numbers.
    Hans Passant.

    And has been for some time. We have people on our list who haven't posted for over a year...
    Cindy Meister, VSTO/Word MVP
    Friday, April 3, 2009 9:33 AM
  • Hi All,

    Still this problem is not solved. Shall we know when can this problem will be resolved.

    Thanks,


    Gopinath D - http://sharepointsnippets.com
    Saturday, April 4, 2009 5:33 PM
  • You should now be seeing only activity over the last 30 days in the those stats. Also the sorting issue was resolved on 4/3/2009, it was showing "Recent" but sorting by "Total".  The only remaining issue that I'm aware of is the discrepancy between lists, where the value for the same user is different between the MVP list and the Overall list. I think that has to do with the list of forums used to aggregate the sum being different for the two lists.
    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Monday, April 6, 2009 4:50 PM
  • You should now be seeing only activity over the last 30 days in the those stats. Also the sorting issue was resolved on 4/3/2009, it was showing "Recent" but sorting by "Total".  The only remaining issue that I'm aware of is the discrepancy between lists, where the value for the same user is different between the MVP list and the Overall list. I think that has to do with the list of forums used to aggregate the sum being different for the two lists.
    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Well, in the VSTO forum I'm seeing (for example) Sue Mosher on the "Recent Moderators" list who hasn't posted since October 2008. Of course, that list doesn't give any time frame...

    Geoff Darst MSFT is appearing in "Top Answerers"  but not in "Top Microsoft Answerers".

    Cindy Meister, VSTO/Word MVP
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 10:44 AM
  • In March 21st, My Total answers were 902, now there are (April 7) 994, in 17 days the difference is 92

    But in Main MSDN Forum page My total is 76, and thats for 30 days, how is that possible?

    And that 76 answeres correctely matches with my Visual Basic General Forum answers, Should not that main page be displaying the total of  all my answers from all forum?

    Arjun Paudel
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 2:05 PM
  • Taking a snapshot from the forums I contribute to:
    Bugs: 10
    BCL: 79
    CLR: 27
    64-bit: none
    C# Express: 39
    C++ Express: 31
    C++ General: 79
    C++ Language: 56
    WF General: 104

    I might have missed a few, not very likely.  That adds up to 425 answers.  That's about right, although a bit low, for what I normally score during a month.

    The main page reports 318 answers as a user, 357 answers as an MVP.  Differences with by computed total are 107 and 68.  That doesn't correlate well with the theory that the forums software might be missing forum(s).

    Notable too is the .NET 64-bit forum.  I reports no users with any answers.  While I clearly have at least one answer there that should be counted.  More.

    While my recognition points are severely under-reported, I think they also are for other contributors on the list.
    Hans Passant.
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 3:43 PM
  • Cindy,

    Two things for recent users:
    1. We don't currently timebox the recent users lists so it could go back a while
    2. "Recent" is not deteremined by posting, it can be triggered simply by reading a thread.

    For Geoff Darst, simply putting Msft at the end of one's username wouldn't cause them to be in the MSFT list. He'd have to associate his domain account with his passport account. In the current UI, User Display Name is Green, while Affiliations (MVP, MSFT) follow the display name and are Black.
    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 4:38 PM
  • Hi Nobugz!

    I agree, I was wondering about your score too, since looking at your activities and points, no of answers does not come any near of it.  So I think conclusion is Top Answers list is still out of order. But I am happy since I can see myself there though I am contributing equally since 5 months but never saw myself in that list before the forum got upgraded.

    Thanks to new version :)



    Arjun Paudel
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 4:47 PM
  • I pulled the latest db yesterday and looked into this points issue. Here's what's going on.

    -We have a job the periodically rolls up the Top N Answers by forum+affiliation over the last 30 days. So when you go in to a specific forum, the right rail stuff should be correct.
    -On the Category/Forums List page, the query aggreagates each of those Top N lists into a rolled up Top list. And this is where the issue lies.

    A simplified example, loosely based on Nobugz :)

        MVP Public
      Answers Rank Rank
    Bugs: 10 1 11
    CLR: 27 2 4
    C#: 39 1 1

    So for a rollup of all forums we'd end up with:
    MVP: 76 answers and rank 1
    Public: 66 answers (he didn't make the top 10 in Bugs) and a rank of say 2

    Since the aggregate db only contains the top 10 for each forum, that leads to the discrepancy between the two lists.

    We'll have to discuss this amongst the team to decide what/when. We'll probably need a Top 10 by Brand/Locale, but that will lead to quite a few combinations that need to be calculated.

    Hope this at least helps clarify somewhat.

    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 4:59 PM
  • Thanks Rob, That is very helpful
    But how do you justify this, I answer in 3 forums mostly
                                                 Public Rank      
    Visual Basic General  : 75                1       
    Visual Basic Language:  24               2

    Well Visual Basic Express, does not have 10 only 4 and I do not exist there for some reason

    so that makes 99 for sure, but aggregation shows 75

    Did I understand you right?


    Arjun Paudel
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 5:10 PM
  • Hi Rob,

    That still doesn't explain the discrepancy in the user vs MVP numbers of my aggregate total.  I'm #1 in all the forums I contribute to.  And I already showed that there is no possible match by omitting certain forums.  Nor does this at all explain why there's no listing for .NET 64-bit.

    I don't doubt that it works the way you explained it (needs fixing) but there is still something else wrong.
    Hans Passant.
    Tuesday, April 7, 2009 5:17 PM
  • You are correct, the problem I detailed is part of the issue. The other part is that the stored proc isn't aggregating properly, middle tier and SP were had different assumptions about what was supposed to happen (should've Grouped/Sum'd before Sort/Top). So we'll doing things to take care of both issues.
    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:17 PM
  • After close to one year of bogus recognition stats, it sounds like we're now actually getting somewhere.  Hurray.
    Hans Passant.
    Wednesday, April 8, 2009 10:32 PM
  • I didn't want to start a new "Top Answerers" thread, and I think my issue is related, so my apologies if I should have broken this out into a separate thread.  I don't think that the "Top Answerers" list has worked in the Windows Workflow Foundation forums since the forum conversion over to social. Matt Milner is the only one that shows up in Top Answerers (he's an MVP, but he's the only one that shows up in either list), with 3 answers in the last 30 days. I dug around to find a few threads where I had answers in the last 30 days, here are some of them:

    Answered 4/14/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/6f7cb2b6-4135-4cf5-af7e-8156bf5759b5
    Answered 4/15/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/9cb7142b-dd1e-4576-9bfb-3da41a165f2f
    Answered 4/09/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/3d868421-d0f3-4fa5-b590-58a383b14713
    Answered 4/09/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/6797e449-d33a-4d46-b804-8d483e62a740
    Answered 4/08/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/47e0e17e-2b9c-4c1c-bb22-8b112178d1fd
    Answered 3/31/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/82e1489b-4ad1-4297-9eef-1926f0b59a29
    Answered 3/31/09: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsworkflowfoundation/thread/9edfc36e-e13e-405d-ada8-0e99cb73cfb8

    I do think I'm getting credited properly for my answers under my account, but the Top Answerers list doesn't seem to reflect all of the activity in that forum.

    Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:03 PM
  • Hi Jimblust,

    You reflected my same feelings in your thread.

    Thanks,
    Gopinath D - http://sharepointsnippets.com
    Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:17 PM
  • I beleive the fixes that Rob was reerring to are going out in our monthly release at the end of April.

    Thanks
    Matt Fraser, STO Forums Software Developer
    Thursday, April 16, 2009 8:50 PM
  • I wasn't sure if the fixes only covered the issue with roll-up of multiple forums. I'll keep an eye out for changes next month. Thanks!
    Thursday, April 16, 2009 9:20 PM
  • This update is now live, things identified in this thread should now be fixed.
    Rob J, Forums Dev
    http://twitter.com/robjoh
    Friday, April 24, 2009 12:11 AM
  • Congratulations Rob, you did it.  We'll buy you the cigar when you get Xiaoyun Li out of the community list and provide the manual scroller.

    Hans Passant.
    Friday, April 24, 2009 12:24 AM
  • Thanks Rob. Its working fine now.
    Gopinath D - http://sharepointsnippets.com
    Monday, April 27, 2009 9:41 AM