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Top Answerers? Why only moderators are shown as top answerers ? RRS feed

  • Question

  • Hi,
    After the last upgrade why is it that only the Moderators of a forum shown in the top answerers??
    Is it that you donot want others to answer the questions and be recognized??
    I am an active member of SSIS forum and I dont see any one other than the moderators in the list??

    I donot understand the reason for this.. is it intended or an error?

    If its intended I would like to know the reason behind this................
    Hope this helps !! Please close the threads once answered - Sudeep
    Monday, August 31, 2009 9:15 AM

Answers

  • We have posted a fix to the Top Answerers lists to our CTP environment:  http://ctp.social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/threads  Please take a look and confirm or report back on any issues not resolved for these lists.

    Re: self un propose, we logged a DCR on this to ensure people that propose and un propose on a given post. No ETA for that yet.

    In the future, please avoid mixing up various different issues in single threads so they don't get lost. If you have a new issue or question, start a new thread please.
    Community Forums Program Manager
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Monday, September 28, 2009 4:22 PM
    Monday, September 21, 2009 5:32 PM
    Answerer
  • Regarding the Top Answerers issue, see this thread.
    Forums Test Lead
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Monday, September 28, 2009 4:22 PM
    Monday, September 21, 2009 7:06 PM

All replies

  • Any updates on this??
    Hope this helps !! Please close the threads once answered - Sudeep
    • Proposed as answer by 我的jolin Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:09 AM
    Monday, August 31, 2009 3:01 PM
  • Looking into this. I've created a bug for our support team.

    STO Forums Test Lead
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Thursday, September 3, 2009 8:56 AM
    • Unmarked as answer by Sudeep Raj Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:47 AM
    Monday, August 31, 2009 4:23 PM
  • Thanx Don!!
    Hope this helps !! Please close the threads once answered - Sudeep
    Monday, August 31, 2009 4:55 PM
  • I just saw this as well and wondered the same thing.

    Thanks for looking into it.
    www.insteptech.com ; msmvps.com/blogs/deborahk
    We are volunteers and ask only that if we are able to help you, that you mark our reply as your answer. THANKS!
    Monday, August 31, 2009 6:00 PM
  • hi,
    I have one suggestion here, you can separate the moderators list from the answerer list as MSFT guys answers also not counting in top answerers.

    Thanks-
    Let us TRY this | Don’t forget to mark the post(s) that answered your question
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 9:31 AM
  • It's by design that MSFT guys answers are not counted in top answerers.

    There were complaints that "normal" people weren't visible on the Top Answerers Lists because those lists were all dominated by (MS) people who were paid to give support.

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    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:09 AM
  • Community moderators are normal people too.  We've got regular jobs, can't spend 40 hours per week answering questions.  This new bug is not triggered by whether or not the contributor is a moderator.  I'm seeing normal normal people still being listed.  Looks to me it's back to seeing too much history, past 30 days.

    Hans Passant.
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 11:20 AM
  • Hi Hans,
    In the case of the SSIS forum it is all the moderators or the MVPs who are listed im not aware of other forums.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep
    • Edited by Don Tan Tuesday, September 1, 2009 1:08 PM Fixing HTML issue
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 12:00 PM
  • Known issue.

    We (including Brent - community program manager) posted a sticky thread on this problem. We're looking into the issue
    STO Forums Test Lead
    Tuesday, September 1, 2009 1:09 PM
  • Hi Moderators,
    I just wanna know, why it is not showing the Top answerers list correctly(In SSIS forum)?
    As i have more then 15 answers in last 30 days but it is not showing in the list whereas the person having 5 answers are still displaying in list.

    Please look into this matter again :)

    Please visit the following link
    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlintegrationservices/thread/dfe56010-4623-4ee8-8b12-015e247c6e42

    Thanks-
    Let us TRY this | Don’t forget to mark the post(s) that answered your question
    Friday, September 4, 2009 11:12 AM
  • Hi All,

    We've a released a fix last night that addresses Top Answerers only showing for moderators and in some cases doesn't show other Forum Users. This fixed also includes recent moderators to show up as well.

    Thanks.


    Forums Test Lead
    Friday, September 4, 2009 1:56 PM
  • ETL,

    You have a valid point, I see that you have at least 8 answers in the last 30 days in the SSIS Forum.

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/user/leaderboards?forumName=sqlintegrationservices

    Let me take a look at this.

    Thanks.
    Forums Test Lead
    Friday, September 4, 2009 2:27 PM
  • Don Thanks.
    looking forward for next update.............

    :)
     
    Let us TRY this | Don’t forget to mark the post(s) that answered your question
    Saturday, September 5, 2009 5:34 PM
  • Community moderators are normal people too.  We've got regular jobs, can't spend 40 hours per week answering questions.  This new bug is not triggered by whether or not the contributor is a moderator.  I'm seeing normal normal people still being listed.  Looks to me it's back to seeing too much history, past 30 days.

    Hans Passant.

    It needs to have a new section "top contributors" as well as answers.
    Sunday, September 6, 2009 1:02 AM
  • ETL,

    You have a valid point, I see that you have at least 8 answers in the last 30 days in the SSIS Forum.

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/user/leaderboards?forumName=sqlintegrationservices

    Let me take a look at this.

    Thanks.
    Forums Test Lead

    Any updates??
    Nitesh Rai- Please mark the post as answered if it answers your question
    Sunday, September 6, 2009 9:46 PM
  • Hi,
    In WPF forum many Microsoft people appear in the Top Answerers for "normal" people. Can you fix this also?

    Thanks,
    Federico Benitez
    My blog
    Monday, September 7, 2009 9:02 AM
  • Community moderators are normal people too.  We've got regular jobs, can't spend 40 hours per week answering questions.  This new bug is not triggered by whether or not the contributor is a moderator.  I'm seeing normal normal people still being listed.  Looks to me it's back to seeing too much history, past 30 days.

    Hans Passant.

    It needs to have a new section "top contributors" as well as answers.

    Yes it does
    Monday, September 7, 2009 11:08 AM
  • I have 8 answers in the Visual C++ General Forum, since September 2nd, and my name is still not listed on the Top Answerers. The last one on this list, as of now,  shows 3 answers. Why ?

    Monday, September 7, 2009 1:21 PM
  • The slipped in an update a couple of days ago to try to fix this bug.  Judging from other responses, this update does not in fact fix the bug.  I think they are aware of this.

    Hans Passant.
    Monday, September 7, 2009 2:27 PM
  • Community moderators are normal people too.  We've got regular jobs, can't spend 40 hours per week answering questions.  This new bug is not triggered by whether or not the contributor is a moderator.  I'm seeing normal normal people still being listed.  Looks to me it's back to seeing too much history, past 30 days.

    Hans Passant.

    It needs to have a new section "top contributors" as well as answers.

    Yes it does

    Certainly
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:39 AM
  • So, you're asking for a list of people that post a lot but whose answers suck so bad they rarely get an answer.  You want to be on it?

    Hans Passant.
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 1:37 AM
  • So, you're asking for a list of people that post a lot but whose answers suck so bad they rarely get an answer.  You want to be on it?

    Hans Passant.

    No.

    It's supposed to be a community forum not a heirachy unless you think you know more just because of employment.
    • Proposed as answer by scant-regard Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:44 AM
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 4:42 AM
  • No.

    It's supposed to be a community forum not a heirachy unless you think you know more just because of employment.
    It is a community but it should not show everyone's name who contribute something.

    Only the useful posts should be recognised and encouraged for the forum to do well.
    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep
    Tuesday, September 8, 2009 9:12 AM
  • ..and maybe have a way to mark as "unhelpful" rather than just Report.



    eg. arrow going down.
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 12:07 AM
  • ETL,

    You have a valid point, I see that you have at least 8 answers in the last 30 days in the SSIS Forum.

    http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/user/leaderboards?forumName=sqlintegrationservices

    Let me take a look at this.

    Thanks.
    Forums Test Lead

    Hi Don,
    There is no update from last 5 days on it. Can you please tell us what is going on?

    :(

    Thanks

    Let us TRY this | Don’t forget to mark the post(s) that answered your question
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:53 AM
  • Update: We've identified the problem and working on a solution. The bug itself is not on the UI rather in the backend DB servers. Part of fixing this issue is lessening the complexity of the Forums app. We're working on backend sql db changes to improve aggregation performance and preventing any issues in the future. We're looking into applying the fix in our September release which would be at the end of September.

    Thanks for the patience on this.
    Forums Test Lead
    • Proposed as answer by scant-regard Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:47 PM
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:33 PM
  • Might there be new features as well, eg "unpropose"?
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 2:46 PM
  • That one seems to be a bug to me. You should be able to unpropose your post.


    Forums Test Lead
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:18 PM
  • Thank you.

    I cannot unpropose anything, nor can I mark as "unhelpful".

    Also, I can quote myself which may be fine in other places that use PHP for example but for here, this is too elaborate I feel even though there is a drive towards simplification it still flies in the face of a rich yet elegant experience in my view.

    Regards
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:30 PM
  • I/we created a bug on the unpropose feature. It's currently by design but I'd like to talk our PM's about it.

    TY
    Forums Test Lead
    Wednesday, September 9, 2009 7:01 PM
  • That one seems to be a bug to me. You should be able to unpropose your post.


    Forums Test Lead

    Hi Don,
    The thread initiator or the Forum moderator does have access to unpropose the answer.
    Is this request ment for any one can unpropose an answer proposed by someone??
    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog
    Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:09 PM
  • I'd say it would only be for posts initiated by the respondent
    • Proposed as answer by scant-regard Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:47 PM
    Thursday, September 10, 2009 2:47 PM
  • No. Rather unpropose the answer initated by the respondent or the user who replied.


    Forums Test Lead
    • Proposed as answer by scant-regard Friday, September 11, 2009 2:18 AM
    Thursday, September 10, 2009 3:41 PM
  • In the SSIS Forum I see that this issue (top answerers) has been resolved.
    Most of the people are there on the list.
    Lets see if any one still complains....

    Thanks Don and team.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Monday, September 14, 2009 8:49 AM
    • Unmarked as answer by Sudeep Raj Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:42 AM
    Monday, September 14, 2009 8:49 AM
  • My name still doesn't show on the Visual C++ General and on the Visual C++ Language forums.

    As of now, since the start of the month, I've got on each forum :

    Visual C++ General     -    16 answers  (last one on the list has 2)

    Visual C++ Language  -     5 answers (last one on the list has 2)

    Monday, September 14, 2009 1:37 PM
  • In the SSIS Forum I see that this issue (top answerers) has been resolved.
    Most of the people are there on the list.
    Lets see if any one still complains....

    Thanks Don and team.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog

    Marking yourself as the answerer hey, to make your scores appear higher.

    Get a life!
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:41 AM
  • In the SSIS Forum I see that this issue (top answerers) has been resolved.
    Most of the people are there on the list.
    Lets see if any one still complains....

    Thanks Don and team.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog

    Marking yourself as the answerer hey, to make your scores appear higher.

    Get a life!

    Quoting yourself hey!

    Now that's pathetic
    • Proposed as answer by scant-regard Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:41 AM
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:41 AM
  • In the SSIS Forum I see that this issue (top answerers) has been resolved.
    Most of the people are there on the list.
    Lets see if any one still complains....

    Thanks Don and team.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog

    Marking yourself as the answerer hey, to make your scores appear higher.

    Get a life!

    Quoting yourself hey!

    Now that's pathetic

    Stop adding spam to the forum by "proposing" ok, please only do it once and only provide ONE answer, not several and if you must have a "helpful" replies section.

    Microsoft you really screwed it up this time I'm afraid.
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:43 AM
  • Having interspersed quotes is not always the go I don't think, especially when you can quote yourself in the text.

    There needs to be a bit more cross-referencing I believe, it's still too old school for my liking.
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:44 AM
  • How can someone know the number of answers per forum? I could not find this feature. Also I think the top answerers in T-SQL forum are not correct. The first part seems to be correct, but then there is too big of a gap, which doesn't seem right.


    Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming.

    Donald Knuth, repeating C. A. R. Hoare

    My blog
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:45 AM
    Moderator
  • In the SSIS Forum I see that this issue (top answerers) has been resolved.
    Most of the people are there on the list.
    Lets see if any one still complains....

    Thanks Don and team.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog

    Marking yourself as the answerer hey, to make your scores appear higher.

    Get a life!

    Hi Scant,
    First and fore most Marking ur post to the thread u initiate does not give u any points.
    If I feel that my post answers my query I have the perimission to mark my post as answer.
    If this is un acceptable to you you may raise this as a suggestion in the suggestions forum. In that case only the moderators will answer are you OK with that.
    At least  I am not OK with that.

    About this thread, There are people who are still complaining that the issue is not resolved so I am unmarking the answers I had marked earlier to keep this thread open.

    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the threads once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 9:46 AM
  • Hey.

    I was mucking around but you probably knew that.

    This is my point though, marking and unmarking all adds unnecessary text to the page.

    There needs to be some clearly defined rules, someone eg a Project Management team need need to sit down and ask themselves what they actually want from this place in totality, ie if there is to be a variation between MSDN, Technet, Answers etc.

    How it is now is almost completely haphazard, plenty of features, not much in the way of consistency in terms of experience which is what Microsoft is meant to be about.
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:08 PM
  • Yes, we're still seeing an issue on this we have a fix in place but most likely will be rolled out as part of our September released (which is slated 10/1)


    Forums Test Lead
    Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:32 PM
  • Hello All,

    Update: We have a fix in place but continuing to regress this bug from our side.

    Thanks.
    Forums Test Lead
    Wednesday, September 16, 2009 2:50 PM
  • Hello All,

    Update: We have a fix in place but continuing to regress this bug from our side.

    Thanks.
    Forums Test Lead
    Hi Don,
    Till Morning, It was displaying my name in TOP 10 List(SSIS) with 40 answers. But again the same error.
    Please look into the matter.

    Thanks-

    Let us TRY this | Don’t forget to mark the post(s) that answered your question
    Friday, September 18, 2009 2:36 PM
  • My name still doesn't show on the Visual C++ General Forum.

    I have 29 answers since the start of September. The last one on the list has 4 !!
    Friday, September 18, 2009 3:40 PM
  • Hi All,

    We do have a fix in place. In fact, we've deployed the fix to another environment where I'd like folks to verify the top answerers list. We're still setting up this environment for public access and will get back once it's ready for preview.
    Forums Test Lead
    Friday, September 18, 2009 5:34 PM
  • There are many folks in the Windows 7 Hardware Compatibility forum that appear to be MS staff, but their accounts aren't tagged as being from MS.  So many of them still clog up the main "top answerers" list.

    (I think a lot of these same folks hang out in many Win7 groups, so it's probably not just this list that they're impacting)
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    Monday, September 21, 2009 5:56 AM
  • We have posted a fix to the Top Answerers lists to our CTP environment:  http://ctp.social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/threads  Please take a look and confirm or report back on any issues not resolved for these lists.

    Re: self un propose, we logged a DCR on this to ensure people that propose and un propose on a given post. No ETA for that yet.

    In the future, please avoid mixing up various different issues in single threads so they don't get lost. If you have a new issue or question, start a new thread please.
    Community Forums Program Manager
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Monday, September 28, 2009 4:22 PM
    Monday, September 21, 2009 5:32 PM
    Answerer
  • Regarding the Top Answerers issue, see this thread.
    Forums Test Lead
    • Marked as answer by Sudeep Raj Monday, September 28, 2009 4:22 PM
    Monday, September 21, 2009 7:06 PM
  • as a beginer in this forum I feel I have come across much news through this thread.thanks for the updates


    Tuesday, September 22, 2009 8:03 AM
  • We have posted a fix to the Top Answerers lists to our CTP environment:  http://ctp.social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/threads  Please take a look and confirm or report back on any issues not resolved for these lists.

    Re: self un propose, we logged a DCR on this to ensure people that propose and un propose on a given post. No ETA for that yet.

    In the future, please avoid mixing up various different issues in single threads so they don't get lost. If you have a new issue or question, start a new thread please.
    Community Forums Program Manager

    I don't want to muddy the waters, but what about being able to quote oneself multiple times?

    There was a time when, if you changed your name as I have that the website tried to change it for every single post, quotes included, obviously that was bad, as is this.

    Also bad is I click quote or reply and it takes me to sign in, then I'm just left standing there having to click again.

    Stupid this place is!
    Tuesday, September 22, 2009 2:14 PM
  • Yes, it seems to change T-SQL top answerers.

    Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming.

    Donald Knuth, repeating C. A. R. Hoare

    My blog
  • Yes, it seems to change T-SQL top answerers.

    Premature optimization is the root of all evil in programming.

    Donald Knuth, repeating C. A. R. Hoare

    My blog

  • I don't want to muddy the waters, but what about being able to quote oneself multiple times?

    There was a time when, if you changed your name as I have that the website tried to change it for every single post, quotes included, obviously that was bad, as is this.

    Also bad is I click quote or reply and it takes me to sign in, then I'm just left standing there having to click again.

    Stupid this place is!

    Hey Scant,
    You are deviating from the original post.
    If you have such an issue with quoting urself start a new thread for the help of others. who can anserw ur issue and the readers as well.


    Hope this helps !!
    Please close the thread once answered

    Sudeep      My Blog
    Saturday, September 26, 2009 8:57 PM