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    When i go to my http://xxx.livenode.com/home/ it alwasy goes over secure port 443 so HTTPS.

    Why must the start page of WHS be HTTPSecure.

    How can i chance this so i can acces this over HTTP (port 80)

     

    regards

     

    BB

     

     

    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 8:47 PM

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  •  BB560652 wrote:

     

    Why or why not... I think whe all forget my question. 

     

    "How can i chance this redirect to https, so i can acces the start page over HTTP (port 80)"

     

    Is this posible or not???

    I directly answered that question, as did several other posters. You cannot change the way the redirect occurs. To get rid of the certificate error that your users are seeing, you will have to either use the homeserver.com address that Microsoft makes available, or research how to obtain and apply your own certificate, for your own domain.
    Sunday, January 6, 2008 2:21 PM
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  • If you connect to http://yourdomain.homeserver.com it uses port 80, but redirects to https: (and port 443) when you click the Login button.

     

    This built into WHS to keep your server (and connection) secure. Why would you want to make it insecure?

     

    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 8:57 PM
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    No, when i go there (home) it goes directly to https://......../home
    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:24 PM
  • Actually the redirect occurs as soon as the subdomain is resolved, so the page with the login button is https://... This is by design to ensure security.

     

    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:30 PM
  • Thanks for the correction, Marc - I use https: and go straight in  Smile
    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:51 PM
  • So, is there a way to change this ???

     

     

     

    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 9:56 PM
  • This built into WHS to keep your server (and connection) secure. Why would you want to make it insecure?

     

    Wednesday, January 2, 2008 10:00 PM
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    Why must the start page be secure, i have to login... and that must be secure. At the start page at my whs are more intresting links that users may see and klik. Only the login... thats for my self and family / friends.

     

    So can this be solved ???

     

     

    Saturday, January 5, 2008 10:21 PM
  • I think everyone is misunderstanding everyone else just a little bit. Smile

    If you go to your server's web site via e.g. the URL http://myservername.homeserver.com then your server will, as soon as the subdomain is resolved, redirect you to https://myservername.homeserver.com/home/. That's a secure page, and it's secure by design, to help make sure that the entire login process is secure. However, there is nothing about that secure page that keeps anyone visiting your server's web site from viewing the page itself. So while you can't change the fact that it will be a secure page, it doesn't matter, because it doesn't keep people from viewing it. It uses the HTTPS protocol, but it doesn't require users to authenticate.

    If the pages you're linking to from there are part the Windows Home Server secure sites then users will have to log in to view them. That's a different matter, and is also by design, to protect your data. You should put those pages in non-secure subsites if you want random visitors to be able to view them.
    Saturday, January 5, 2008 11:52 PM
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  •  

    Why or why not... I think whe all forget my question. 

     

    "How can i chance this redirect to https, so i can acces the start page over HTTP (port 80)"

     

    Is this posible or not???

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 10:19 AM
  • Let me take a crack at this.  

    WHS uses the https:// to make a secure connection.  This means that when you type in your username and password and send it to the server, no one can see that..

    If it didn't use https:// then the connection is not secure so there are ways for people to see your username and password as your computer is sending that data to the server.

    So if it was http://, there is still your username and password but if the connection isn't secure, people can intercept that information.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Sunday, January 6, 2008 10:58 AM
  •  Enchanter wrote:
    Let me take a crack at this.  

    WHS uses the https:// to make a secure connection.  This means that when you type in your username and password and send it to the server, no one can see that..

    If it didn't use https:// then the connection is not secure so there are ways for people to see your username and password as your computer is sending that data to the server.

    So if it was http://, there is still your username and password but if the connection isn't secure, people can intercept that information.

    Correct me if I'm wrong.

     

    Correct.

     

    Now the start page has a button to login. Klik on that and then you go to HTTPS (so secure) There gives the user the login and pass.

     

     

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 11:11 AM
  • OK, let's try it a different way; what is it you're trying to do and, more importantly, why?
    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:05 PM
  • Why cant annyone normaly answer my question !!!

     

    Can the WHS start home page ( http://server.homeserver.com/home/ ) be normal over http or not?

    It redirects directly to secure https://server.homeserver.com/home/

    Can this been chance ?

     

     

     

     

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:20 PM
  • No is your answer, then. As has been described here several times, when you go to http: you are automatically rerouted to https: - this is how WHS works.

     

    What we're trying to understand is why this is an issue.

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:33 PM
  • The name resolution does work on http but it is the built in web pages that drop you into the https.

    If you use the IIS management to follow through the pages you find that the home page is on the web root but redirects to default.aspx in the home folder.

    If you really want to stay on http streams you are going to have to build you own web pages in the root (replacing default.htm) and go from there - then the http://myserver.homeserver.com will stay.

    Still not sure why you would want to do this and if you break it you could end up rebuilding your server - my advice is leave it as it is - it works fine - and use whiist to add pages as required.

    Andrew

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:35 PM
  • Corse i'm not using the homeserver.com to go to my home server and i got Certificate Error

    and cant fix this.

    I touhgt, maybe i can fix the start page to HTTP so the error will not come.
    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:50 PM
  • Is this accessing your home server from inside your network, or from elsewhere?

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:58 PM
  • Both

     

    Sunday, January 6, 2008 1:59 PM
  •  BB560652 wrote:

     

    Why or why not... I think whe all forget my question. 

     

    "How can i chance this redirect to https, so i can acces the start page over HTTP (port 80)"

     

    Is this posible or not???

    I directly answered that question, as did several other posters. You cannot change the way the redirect occurs. To get rid of the certificate error that your users are seeing, you will have to either use the homeserver.com address that Microsoft makes available, or research how to obtain and apply your own certificate, for your own domain.
    Sunday, January 6, 2008 2:21 PM
    Moderator