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  • Hi,

    In my rush to migrate from Windows XP I bought a PC from a lady who was running a small business from home. It's a Dell Vostro 220 with Windows 7 Professional OEM installed along with Office professional 2007.

    I ran the MGADiag tool and pasted the results into Notepad. It does say that it's genuine in the System properties of the OS. I was wondering if my MGADiag report could be verified as having the genuine article.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-M3DJT-4J3WC-733WD
    Windows Product Key Hash: xo+ajVSpae7/4VoZjS7m6JL0f3A=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-8992671-00524
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {B961D572-6AE7-4580-BD2E-7957A24EE36F}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 - 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3_E2AD56EA-765-d003_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-134-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-8009_E2AD56EA-766-2ee7_E2AD56EA-148-80004005_16E0B333-89-80004005_B4D0AA8B-1029-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-d003_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-134-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-800

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{B961D572-6AE7-4580-BD2E-7957A24EE36F}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-733WD</PKey><PID>00371-OEM-8992671-00524</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-621423825-3939274527-3881686059</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Vostro 220 Series </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>1.1.4</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="5"/><Date>20090417000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>0F6B3C07018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>100</Result><Products><Product GUID="{90120000-0011-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>4614F7456199586</Val><Hash>4zAdGDLIwAfdprY9U81dnHRg4ww=</Hash><Pid>89409-707-5002957-65585</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product><Product GUID="{90120000-00CA-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Small Business 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>4614F7456199586</Val><Hash>4zAdGDLIwAfdprY9U81dnHRg4ww=</Hash><Pid>89395-707-5002957-65496</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product></Products><Applications><App Id="15" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="16" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="18" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="19" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1A" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1B" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="44" Version="12" Result="100"/></Applications></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
    Activation ID: 50e329f7-a5fa-46b2-85fd-f224e5da7764
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00178-926-700524-02-2057-7600.0000-2712012
    Installation ID: 006903303320757703916190465033209694337804519761078001
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 733WD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 19/04/2014 00:01:49

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 1:7:2013 08:56
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEAAgABAAMAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAJJQ6rrBfqn/wImBkPKVgHq4pGOsAHgAfRso=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            041709        APIC1908
      FACP            041709        FACP1908
      HPET            041709        OEMHPET
      MCFG            041709        OEMMCFG
      SLIC            DELL          FX09   
      OEMB            041709        OEMB1908
      GSCI            041709        GMCHSCI
      SSDT            DpgPmm        CpuPm

    ******************************
    I also bought a Windows 7 Pro Retail box and have installed the 64-bit version on a spare SATA hard drive on the Dell Vostro 220. I activated it and ran the MGADiag tool, then validated at Microsoft which also included the WAT update, and ran the MGADiag tool again. I was offerred MSE and IE9 but declined as I was just installing to test the product key.

    I've pasted the MGADiag report with the WAT update so you good folks on the forum can put my mind at rest once and for all. I'm assuming that if the key for the retail 64-bit is genuine then it should be fine for a 32-bit install?

    MGADiag report with the WAT update

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-4446R-JVHG3-WH7RD
    Windows Product Key Hash: A++/iyR73rVq3rKVClxwuBlesos=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-178-1789692-85712
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {A73A66D1-5770-4ABD-89A5-FD6EE53F791A}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{A73A66D1-5770-4ABD-89A5-FD6EE53F791A}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-WH7RD</PKey><PID>00371-178-1789692-85712</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1682414793-3545120803-3535749455</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Vostro 220 Series </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>1.1.4</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="5"/><Date>20090417000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>37A23807018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00170-178-178969-00-2057-7601.0000-1132014
    Installation ID: 012486913653346762142544154920148222124196085296636030
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: WH7RD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 24/04/2014 11:26:13

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MAAAAAEAAgABAAIAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAJJQ6rrBfqn/wIiqoPKVgHhjrAB4AH0bK

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            041709        APIC1908
      FACP            041709        FACP1908
      HPET            041709        OEMHPET
      MCFG            041709        OEMMCFG
      SLIC            DELL          FX09   
      OEMB            041709        OEMB1908
      GSCI            041709        GMCHSCI
      SSDT            DpgPmm        CpuPm

    ******************************

    I bought the Retail box from a reputable company in London via eBay (I know what you're thinking!). It wasn't an auction and I made plenty of contact with them before I purchased.

    It's not just eBay you have to watch out for. I bought 2 copies of Windows 7 Pro OEM from a website I found through Google search. The site is now down (Under construction?) which probably means they've bolted. Anyway, I'll paste those reports another time.

    Any help would be really appreciated.

    Thanks

    Rob

     
    Friday, April 25, 2014 12:04 AM

Answers

  • I'm afraid that Carey is incorrect.

    1) the OEM_SLP License in the first report is showing as genuine and activated - but the machine was built before Windows 7 was released to manufacture, and therefore cannot possibly support an OEM_SLP Key for Windows 7 - the installation must therefore be enabled by a hacker's Activation Exploit. For what version and edition is this machine licensed, according to the COA sticker on the case??

    2) The second report also has an activation hack showing. - although it's quite possible that the Key is genuine anyhow. Please describe the media you received.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:00 AM
    Moderator

All replies

  • Both Windows 7 licenses are indeed genuine.  So are the licenses for Microsoft Office 2007.

    Carey Frisch

    • Marked as answer by RobUK63 Friday, April 25, 2014 10:46 AM
    • Unmarked as answer by RobUK63 Tuesday, April 29, 2014 11:29 PM
    Friday, April 25, 2014 1:12 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi,

    Thank you so much for that. It's made the purchase worth it.

    I'll test the 2 OEM Windows 7 Pros and post them a little later.

    Thanks again Carey

    Rob

    Friday, April 25, 2014 11:09 AM
  • I'm afraid that Carey is incorrect.

    1) the OEM_SLP License in the first report is showing as genuine and activated - but the machine was built before Windows 7 was released to manufacture, and therefore cannot possibly support an OEM_SLP Key for Windows 7 - the installation must therefore be enabled by a hacker's Activation Exploit. For what version and edition is this machine licensed, according to the COA sticker on the case??

    2) The second report also has an activation hack showing. - although it's quite possible that the Key is genuine anyhow. Please describe the media you received.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Saturday, April 26, 2014 11:00 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    I bought the Dell Vostro 220 about 2 weeks ago and Windows 7 Professional OEM came pre-installed. Originally it had Windows Vista Home Premium installed. The COA sticker says "Windows Vista Home Premium OEMAct Dell".

    I then put another SATA drive in the Dell machine and installed Windows 7 professional Full Retail Boxed Edition that I just purchased to test its authenticity.

    Microsoft Windows 7 Professional Retail GENUINE Origin: Ireland PN: FQC-00133

    Service Pack 1 is included and was brand new.

    What about the Office software. Is that OK?

    Rob

    Monday, April 28, 2014 8:53 PM
  • Retail editions do NOT give rise to the PID or product Key that we see in this report.

    Did you have to enter the Key during install?

    From where did you get this boxed edition?

    I can't see anything about Office in the report - which means that it must be either Office 2010 or Office 2013. Unfortunately that's outside this forum's remit, and I know nothing about their license technologies. You should repost that query in the Office Community forums - http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Tuesday, April 29, 2014 2:26 PM
    Moderator
  • I'll forget the Office software and concentrate on the retail edition of Windows 7 Professional that I bought.

    1) I installed it but didn't enter a product key when asked and ran the MGADiag report.

    2)I then changed the product key in System Properties and activated it, and the ran the MGADiag report.

    3)I then went to microsoft.com/genuine/validate which offerred me MSE and IE9, which I declined and the ran the MGADiag report.

    I bought this retail edition from SNET TECHNOLOGIES who have a shop via eBay. It wasn't an auction and I did swap a lot of emails with them about its authenticity.

    Here's a link: http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Snet-Technologies?_trksid=p2047675.l2563

    I've just clicked on and they've still got 2 left. The thing is after Carey's reply above I emailed them to thank them for helping me get a genuine copy of Win7 Pro Retail!

    Would you like me to load the 3 MGADiag reports or 1 in particular?

    Thanks

    Rob

    Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:59 PM
  • I need the MGADiag report using the Key from your purchased Win7 Pro - anything else is background at present.

    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:28 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Here's the MGADiag report you asked for. Win7 Pro Retail after Microsoft validation.

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-4446R-JVHG3-WH7RD
    Windows Product Key Hash: A++/iyR73rVq3rKVClxwuBlesos=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-178-1789692-85712
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {A73A66D1-5770-4ABD-89A5-FD6EE53F791A}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files (x86)\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{A73A66D1-5770-4ABD-89A5-FD6EE53F791A}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-WH7RD</PKey><PID>00371-178-1789692-85712</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1682414793-3545120803-3535749455</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Vostro 220 Series </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>1.1.4</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="5"/><Date>20090417000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>37A23807018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00170-178-178969-00-2057-7601.0000-1132014
    Installation ID: 012486913653346762142544154920148222124196085296636030
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: WH7RD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 24/04/2014 11:26:13

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MAAAAAEAAgABAAIAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAJJQ6rrBfqn/wIiqoPKVgHhjrAB4AH0bK

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            041709        APIC1908
      FACP            041709        FACP1908
      HPET            041709        OEMHPET
      MCFG            041709        OEMMCFG
      SLIC            DELL          FX09   
      OEMB            041709        OEMB1908
      GSCI            041709        GMCHSCI
      SSDT            DpgPmm        CpuPm

    Probably irrelevant at the moment but the used hard disk I installed this on started showing a fault.

    Apologies for too much information.

    Thanks

    Rob

    Wednesday, April 30, 2014 11:42 AM
  • No apology necessary!

    That does (very surprisingly) look to me to be genuine.

    It's a surprise, because 90% of Windows 'retail packs' from eBay turn out to be counterfeits in one way or another (and I can't rule it out totally here, either).

    You should check your packaging and disks carefully using the suggestions below...

    Please read the following posts....

    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/a2444f34-0aff-4f29-a8ac-67e28b0c0285

    and

    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/309bb621-92d5-43d6-98c1-2bb51b35607f

    The pirates have got VERY good at this over the past few years, as the price of equipment for manufacturing the packages drops, and as factories open in less well-policed countries.

    see also this post....

    http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/genuinewindows7/thread/46a58748-5a64-41ff-b7f4-f6d3b47beca9

    Also - have a look at this video....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqNNiOM0cs     

    A hard drive error will often result (eventually) in a non-genuine flag, as it can disrupt the needed checks sufficiently to break the rules that the WGA system has.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Wednesday, April 30, 2014 3:27 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Thanks for that and I'll check those posts again, although the packaging looks fine and I proof read every word inside and out looking for spelling errors and checked the disks with a magnifying glass under bright lights.

    I've just returned the second-hand HDD I installed the Retail copy on to the shop as it was under warranty. That was the first time I'd used it.

    Anyway, while I'm here could you check this OEM Win7 Pro. I bought a couple of these (not off eBay) from a website which is now down due to  an upgrade (mmm!).

    I wanted to upgrade an old laptop as a backup for internet and email and I followed the same install as with the retail copy. I've validated it twice so here's the second one I did this morning. This line looks interesting

    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table

    Acer Travelmate 252 Validated

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-JG3VD-RDTK7-82D6X
    Windows Product Key Hash: /mjaRS1548uoew1yB8oOJynONPw=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9373794-91447
    Windows Product ID Type: 8
    Windows License Type: COA SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {49358063-3E89-4541-B344-8079D5D8BC00}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{49358063-3E89-4541-B344-8079D5D8BC00}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-82D6X</PKey><PID>00371-OEM-9373794-91447</PID><PIDType>8</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-2077525127-3104729367-1523541484</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Acer           </Manufacturer><Model>TravelMate 250 </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Phoenix Technologies LTD</Manufacturer><Version>V1.14     </Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="31"/><Date>20031021000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>7B123B07018400F2</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_COA_SLP channel
    Activation ID: da22eadd-46dc-4056-a287-f5041c852470
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00186-737-991447-02-2057-7601.0000-1172014
    Installation ID: 017210172682302844926994367195456240153941877825222814
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 82D6X
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 30/04/2014 11:39:25

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 4:30:2014 11:35
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: LAAAAAEAAgABAAEAAAABAAAAAQABAAEAJJSwWRogPCJQU+BttE1elRoGxsc=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      FACP            Acer          Yuhina  
      BOOT            PTLTD         $SBFTBL$
      SSDT            PTLTD         ACPIPST1

    (Original COA Windows XP Professional 1-2CPU Acer Incorporated)

    Thanks

    Rob

    Wednesday, April 30, 2014 4:15 PM
  • This one is definitely a counterfeit.

    The machine was built in 2003 - and so almost certainly came with Windows XP installed. (or perhaps even  Windows 2000!)

    However, the OEM_SLP license that's installed requires the SLIC table appropriate for the manufacturer's Windows 7 install to be present.

    The fact that the install shows as being activated means that there is an Activation Exploit present to bypass this requirement.

    You should attempt to claim a refund - if you can get hold of the vendor!

    If the fakes are sufficiently good, you may be able to claim a complementary copy from MS .

     fill in the Counterfeit report here...

    http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/howtotell/default.aspx


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:37 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    As I was reading your reply I was picking the edge of that OEM disk where it supposed to be hologrammed and the outer ring has peeled back! I've just opened the other one and done the same and it also came off. I've just noticed the font under under Windows 7 which says Professional is different from my retail disks.

    I wasn't quite as educated as I am now about fakes when I bought these back in March and the 45 days have passed with PayPal. As I said previously the website I got them from has now closed and is under construction.

    I've got all the details so should I just contact Microsoft about them and fill in a counterfeit report?

    At least now I know about these 2 disks.

    Thanks

    Rob

    PS: I've got a couple of other questions but I'll come back later.

    Thursday, May 1, 2014 10:42 AM
  • It's certainly worth a try - unfortunately, I believe that replacements are limited to one per household, but I've never tried :)

    Either way, the vendor needs to be reported so that MS can nail them!


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Thursday, May 1, 2014 11:59 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    I'll let Microsoft deal with the OEM disks.

    What I'd like to do now is try and put the Retail version I bought to bed as far as verifying is concerned.

    You say as far as you can tell it looks surprisingly genuine and that I should check the packaging etc. So here's my final check list:

    Checked the PID after installing without entering my Product key as follows
    Product ID: 00371-177-0000061-85371. 177 = Win 7 Pro Retail, yes?

    Checked the PID after entering my Product key, activating and validation as follows
    Product ID: 00371-178-1789692-85712. No 220s or thereabouts. 178?

    So no dramas about MSDN, TechNet, BizSpark product keys etc.

    I've proof read the box and the cards inside for any spelling errors and didn't find any.
    The product key sticker is orange/yellow with a dark, brownish vertical line down the middle.

    I bought from a reputable vendor via PayPal with a real address, telephone number and email access, which they were happy to reply to quickly. Obviously once you open the software returning the product would be difficult.

    It's fully hologrammed Microsoft/Genuine on the outer edge under light with indicator arrows in direct alignment with each other on IMB.
    No stickers on both disks. I've tried to peel the edges back to check and they seem fine.

    ********************************************************************************************

    So just one thing about the MGADiag report:

    When you looked at the 2nd MGADiag report in my original post at the top of this page you said

    2) The second report also has an activation hack showing. - although it's quite possible that the Key is genuine anyhow. Please describe the media you received.

    This is the exact same MGADiag report I posted when you asked for

    I need the MGADiag report using the Key from your purchased Win7 Pro - anything else is background at present.

    Because that was my first post on the forum I posted 2 different reports at the same time (sorry!) about the same PC. The 1st was 32-bit OEM pre-installed and the 2nd was 64-bit which is my Retail installation on a separate disk. Could that be why you mentioned an activation hack showing?

    Can I say after all this and you checking my MGADiag report that I do have a genuine copy of Windows 7 Pro Retail? 99.9%?

    Please, my head's hurting now!

    Thanks

    Rob

    Thursday, May 1, 2014 3:20 PM
  • One of the problems with specialising in this type of problem is that they all tend to blur into each other :)

    Let's look at that first post of yours again...

    That second report shows...

    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-4446R-JVHG3-WH7RD

    Windows Product Key Hash: A++/iyR73rVq3rKVClxwuBlesos=

    Windows Product ID: 00371-178-1789692-85712

    Windows Product ID Type: 5

    Windows License Type: Retail ....<Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>1.1.4</Version>

    <SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="5"/>

    <Date>20090417000000.000000+000</Date>....   OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->

    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes

    Windows marker version: 0x20001


    The SLIC table has been generated by either Dell screwing up, or by a Activation Exploit which creates a simulated SLIC table.

    However, the Retail Pro Key ignores the SLIC table anyhow - so the Key could be perfectly Genuine, or could be a total fake, if there is also another type of Exploit present. I doubt that a OEM_SLP-based hack such as the original appears to be would also have an alternate hack installed to bypass a retail Key - but I've never tried just changing the Key in that situation, since it's always recommended to so a clean install.

    If you clean-install with known-good media, and use that Key, it would give us something better to work with.

    I simply missed the cluestick the second time around since I usually don't bother to look for BIOS dates with retail installs, as they are largely irrelevant.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Thursday, May 1, 2014 4:14 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    I've got another PC I'm trying to finish upgrading. It's a non branded machine I've had for ages, so I'll stick a fresh install of Windows 7 Pro retail on it over the weekend and post the results when I'm done. That way nothing else can distract from finding out if I have at least one good version.

    Your help is much appreciated.

    Thanks

    Rob

    P.S. Better still I've downloaded Win 7 pro SP1 from Digital River. That's known good media. I'll burn it and install that and use my retail key to activate it. How about that?
    • Edited by RobUK63 Friday, May 2, 2014 1:31 AM
    Thursday, May 1, 2014 6:22 PM
  • Dell offered a program for a free upgrade to Windows 7 back in 2009.  Who's to say this Dell PC did not receive the free upgrade?

    Carey Frisch

    Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:05 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi,

    I'm going to come back to my Dell Vostro 220 machine and it's mysterious Windows 7 Pro installation once I've got some closure with the Retail edition I bought recently. As for my 2 OEM fakes, Microsoft are going to take care of them.

    Rob

    Sunday, May 4, 2014 2:03 PM
  • All free upgrade Licenses are OEM_NSLP (System Builder type)

    They (in theory at least) are only valid for the PC that originally shipped with Vista, and must have the new COA sticker applied to the case.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Tuesday, May 6, 2014 3:02 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Sorry for the big gap. I've had trouble trying to get a PC together to test my Windows 7 Pro Retail. Anyway, you said earlier in this quote that

    "If you clean-install with known-good media, and use that Key, it would give us something better to work with."

    When you say known good-media do you mean for example DigitalRiver's Win 7 Pro SP1 rather than my own Retail disks and then use my Retail key to test it? I've downloaded this last week and burnt a DVD. Shall I do this first and then try my own disks?

    I'm ready to install now on my generic PC with a blank hard drive.

    Thanks

    Rob

    Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:04 PM
  • I've been busy myself  :) mostly not feeling well :(

    That was pretty much exactly what I had in mind, although I didn't envisage building a new PC just to test it!


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Thursday, May 15, 2014 8:25 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi  Noel,

    Not quite a new PC but it's all I could put together. The motherboard is apparently one of only two that have trouble booting from a DVD so had to use an All In One Floppy to boot the thing. A few hardware problems later and I've managed to get to validation success after a couple of failures yesterday afternoon. They suggested I contacted support or try again later which I did.

    Here's the WAT Update MGADiag report

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-4446R-JVHG3-WH7RD
    Windows Product Key Hash: A++/iyR73rVq3rKVClxwuBlesos=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-178-1789692-85952
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {87F0BB52-87B2-47A1-B158-8B0A3E245864}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{87F0BB52-87B2-47A1-B158-8B0A3E245864}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-WH7RD</PKey><PID>00371-178-1789692-85952</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-3626294496-2324026099-2907850886</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>K7S41GX</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>P2.80</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="3"/><Date>20061018000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>30B33507018400FA</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00170-178-178969-00-2057-7601.0000-1372014
    Installation ID: 017276681174655391128513253734183145575003853915165165
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: WH7RD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 18/05/2014 00:08:20

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: KgAAAAEAAgABAAEAAAAAAAAAAQABAAEAJJS6FB7UvsF8rnyF3lwUSu5k

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            AMIINT        SiS740XX
      FACP            AMIINT        SiS740XX

    Just wondering about the no SLIC table message. Should this matter as I'm using a Retail version? Had a quick look online and found this

    B)  Example of invalid table:

                OEM Activation 2.0 Data -->
                BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table (or may say invalid SLIC table)
                Windows marker version: N/A
                OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A

    If MGA tool returns results that indicate an invalid OA2 marker or SLIC table, contact your local Support Center and disregard step 2.

          2. If the MGA tool indicates the marker and Table are OK, run System File Checker to scan for
              and potentially repair corrupt system files.  This tool is part of Windows 7.

    I used the Digital River W7ProSP1 and my Retail key. Upgraded the BIOS on the ASRock before I installed.

    ASRock K7S41GX

    2GB RAM PC2700 DDR

    AMD Sempron 2200+ 1.5GHz

    Thanks

    Rob

    Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:18 AM
  • As would be expected from a retail disk, this shows to be a retail license.

    It's not a known MSDN-type Key, and it's not an OEM Key - and it shows no signs of any hack.

    The reason the BIOS detail shows no SLIC table is simple - Retail motherboards don't have SLIC tables.

    SLIC tables are only required where the OEM_SLP Key is in use, all other license types ignore the table altogether - apart from KMS Volume licenses, which only check that any SLIC table which may be present is a valid one.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Sunday, May 18, 2014 9:09 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    That's what I was thinking and hoping but wasn't sure. This seems very obvious even as I type it but I presume if I reinstalled with my own retail disks everything would be fine? So, would it be safe to assume I can now relax in the knowledge that I have a genuine piece of Windows 7 software?

    I manged to persuade a friend to sell me their original Windows 7 Pro after they upgraded just in case, and would like to post the report here. Is it still OK to post my reports here as I opened this thread myself? It is essentially still the same question I asked originally.

    I really appreciate yours and other people's help with these things, and learn a lot a long the way.

    Thanks

    Rob

    Sunday, May 18, 2014 11:12 AM
  • As far as I can tell, that Key is genuine - personally, unless your bought disks have SP1 embedded, I'd prefer to use the SP1 download anyhow as it avoids any complications from updating through SP1.

    If your friend upgraded from Win7 Pro using a true Upgrade version, then technically they are not allowed to sell  the 7Pro, as its license has been subsumed into the new upgraded license. If they used a true Full license to do the upgrade, then the sale is OK.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Sunday, May 18, 2014 12:25 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Just to clarify my friend wiped the drive and installed a fresh copy of Windows 8.1 Pro Retail before he sold me the Windows 7 Pro Retail.

    The Windows 7 Pro is the original release without the service pack, but for convenience I've used the Digital River download with SP1 again to install and test the key. Same computer but a different hard drive. Here's the MGADiag report after validation..

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-QBXJK-KCC2Q-42X8J
    Windows Product Key Hash: HevxnEl2Gt1lac04SBtAP1rZeCY=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-177-5709957-85571
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {CE5AC28C-7C11-4026-A91C-957240FC79EA}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{CE5AC28C-7C11-4026-A91C-957240FC79EA}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-42X8J</PKey><PID>00371-177-5709957-85571</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-626945283-415080572-3302526732</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>K7S41GX</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>P2.80</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="3"/><Date>20061018000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>FEE03F07018400FA</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: e838d943-63ed-4a0b-9fb1-47152908acc9
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00170-177-570995-00-2057-7601.0000-1392014
    Installation ID: 018200189374314356484565025206464145069252167021572722
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 42X8J
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
    Trusted time: 19/05/2014 17:55:18

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: N/A
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: N/A
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: LAAAAAEAAgABAAEAAAABAAAAAQABAAEAJJS6FB7UvsF8rkr63lycPBRK7mQ=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            AMIINT        SiS740XX
      FACP            AMIINT        SiS740XX

    It's very similar to the previous one with the exception of 177 instead of 178 in the product ID line. Would this be because the key is from an original Windows 7 Pro without the service pack?

    Thanks

    Rob

    Monday, May 19, 2014 7:28 PM
  • The CID (177/178) is consistent with your earlier one - and indicates a similar type of license (generally, the break appears to be at the 9/0 and possibly 4/5 point in the final digit).

    I can see no problems in this license/Key.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Monday, May 19, 2014 8:19 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    That sounds like a yes then. So I now have 2 legitimate retail copies of Windows 7 Professional.

    Could you just explain what this bit means?

    (generally, the break appears to be at the 9/0 and possibly 4/5 point in the final digit)

    Which line is that in?

    Thanks again

    Rob

    Monday, May 19, 2014 8:45 PM
  • The CID is the Channel ID - the 3-character second section of the Product ID.

    Generally, it appears that MS reserve these numbers (apart from the generic -OEM- I don't recall ever seeing an alpha character in there) in blocks of 5 (xx0/1/2/3/4 and xx5/6/7/8/9) for specific sources of the Keys.

    This means that the chances are that both your current Keys are from the same source type - so if one is a Full Retail, then so is the other (rather than one being an Anytime Upgrade, and the other a Retail Upgrade)

    Does that help at all?


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Monday, May 19, 2014 9:27 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Yes I'm satisfied that my retail copies of Windows 7 Pro are legit. Can we try and clear up the Dell Vostro 220 OEM Windows 7 Pro machine? Here's the validated MGADiag report again....

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-M3DJT-4J3WC-733WD
    Windows Product Key Hash: xo+ajVSpae7/4VoZjS7m6JL0f3A=
    Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-8992671-00524
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
    ID: {B961D572-6AE7-4580-BD2E-7957A24EE36F}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
    Architecture: 0x00000000
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120830-0333
    TTS Error:
    Validation Diagnostic:
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007 - 100 Genuine
    Microsoft Office Small Business 2007 - 100 Genuine
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3_E2AD56EA-765-d003_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-134-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-8009_E2AD56EA-766-2ee7_E2AD56EA-148-80004005_16E0B333-89-80004005_B4D0AA8B-1029-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-d003_E2AD56EA-766-0_E2AD56EA-134-80004005_E2AD56EA-765-800

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{B961D572-6AE7-4580-BD2E-7957A24EE36F}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-733WD</PKey><PID>00371-OEM-8992671-00524</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-621423825-3939274527-3881686059</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Model>Vostro 220 Series </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>1.1.4</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="5"/><Date>20090417000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>0F6B3C07018400F8</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM><OEMID>DELL  </OEMID><OEMTableID>FX09   </OEMTableID></OEM><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>100</Result><Products><Product GUID="{90120000-0011-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Professional Plus 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>4614F7456199586</Val><Hash>4zAdGDLIwAfdprY9U81dnHRg4ww=</Hash><Pid>89409-707-5002957-65585</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product><Product GUID="{90120000-00CA-0000-0000-0000000FF1CE}"><LegitResult>100</LegitResult><Name>Microsoft Office Small Business 2007</Name><Ver>12</Ver><Val>4614F7456199586</Val><Hash>4zAdGDLIwAfdprY9U81dnHRg4ww=</Hash><Pid>89395-707-5002957-65496</Pid><PidType>14</PidType></Product></Products><Applications><App Id="15" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="16" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="18" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="19" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1A" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="1B" Version="12" Result="100"/><App Id="44" Version="12" Result="100"/></Applications></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_SLP channel
    Activation ID: 50e329f7-a5fa-46b2-85fd-f224e5da7764
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00371-00178-926-700524-02-2057-7600.0000-2712012
    Installation ID: 006903303320757703916190465033209694337804519761078001
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 733WD
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 19/04/2014 00:01:49

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 1:7:2013 08:56
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: MgAAAAEAAgABAAMAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAJJQ6rrBfqn/wImBkPKVgHq4pGOsAHgAfRso=

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes
    Windows marker version: 0x20001
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: yes
    BIOS Information:
      ACPI Table Name    OEMID Value    OEMTableID Value
      APIC            041709        APIC1908
      FACP            041709        FACP1908
      HPET            041709        OEMHPET
      MCFG            041709        OEMMCFG
      SLIC            DELL          FX09   
      OEMB            041709        OEMB1908
      GSCI            041709        GMCHSCI
      SSDT            DpgPmm        CpuPm

    You previously said...

    The OEM_SLP License in the first report is showing as genuine and activated - but the machine was built before Windows 7 was released to manufacture, and therefore cannot possibly support an OEM_SLP Key for Windows 7 - the installation must therefore be enabled by a hacker's Activation Exploit. For what version and edition is this machine licensed, according to the COA sticker on the case??

    Originally it had Windows Vista Home Premium installed. The COA sticker says "Windows Vista Home Premium OEMAct Dell". From what I can find from Belarc Advisor it says that Windows 7 Pro was installed on 27/09/2012. I've found the product key but there's no COA sticker for 7 anywhere inside or out on the PC. There is a recovery partition on the hard drive but I'm not sure if it's Vista or 7. How could I tell?

    If it's definitely fake would it be possible to make it genuine in order to save the Office software that's installed on it? For example can I remove the activation hack if I could find it?

    My only other option is to re-install Vista Home Premium and use the key on the COA. From there I could try and upgrade to Windows 7.

    Thanks

    Rob

    Tuesday, May 20, 2014 11:48 PM
  • It's theoretically possible to remove an activation hack - but usually only if you know exactly which one was applied in the first place.

    I suspect that this one is using one variant of the Daz Loader, but I have no clue as to which one, and no inclination to attempt the job, as there's a distinct possibility that the install is riddled with malware of one form or another, which is why the recommendation is always a reformat/reinstall.

    You can recover the Keys for the two(!) Office installations using Belarc Advisor - but note that the Office Pro Plus is a Volume-License-Only edition, and there may be problems with the Small Business one as well. You may want to ask about them in the Office Community forums here...

    http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/office/forum/office_2007-office_install?

    where people far more expert than I in Office Genuine can give more accurate opinions.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:42 AM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    Thanks for that. It sounds like a whole lot of trouble trying to remove any hack so I'll give it a miss. The PC itself and the other hardware that came with it was worth the money so I'll reformat and start again afresh.

    Could I use any copy of Windows Vista Home Premium and then use the COA key on my Dell PC or would it be better to ask Dell for a recovery disk using the service tag number? Apparently they're free in the US but I heard someone in the UK was charged £39!

    Thanks

    Rob

    Wednesday, May 21, 2014 11:44 AM
  • Any retail (or OEM System Builder) copy of Vista is capable of taking your COA sticker key (doesn't matter which edition - they are all the same).

    Good luck with it!


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Wednesday, May 21, 2014 12:39 PM
    Moderator
  • Hi Noel,

    I'm in the middle of trying to get the Dell Vostro 220 back to original Vista and then up to Windows 7 again, possibly 7 Pro if not Ultimate.

    According to Microsoft I can only upgrade from Vista Home Premium to either 7 Home Premium or Ultimate. 7 Professional can only be upgraded from Vista Business.

    If I use a 7 Home Premium upgrade disk can I use "Windows Anytime Upgrade" from there to get to Professional?

    If so what happens to my product keys for Vista and 7 Home Premium. Will they be available again in some way after I do my final upgrade with a new key for Professional? Hope you're still with me!

    Thanks

    Rob

    Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:00 PM
  • Rob - use the double-install method to install Pro.

    http://winsupersite.com/article/windows-7/clean-install-windows-7-with-upgrade-media-128512


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi
    CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth
    No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors.

    Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:44 AM
    Moderator