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getting errors in last couple of days posting to msdn

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Hi. More often than not, I'm getting errors posting to msdn in the last couple of days. A big yellow block appears in both IE and Chrome saying "This Page Cannot be Displayed". My last one in the ssis forum. Is this a problem on our side or MS's side?
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It seems like an error caused by your ISP.--Alexis Zhanghttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/jiehttp://blogs.itecn.net/blogs/alexisHi. More often than not, I'm getting errors posting to msdn in the last couple of days. A big yellow block appears in both IE andChrome saying "This Page Cannot be Displayed".
- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:07 PM
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its only on msdn forums.
I agree with Alexis. An example would be a deficient DNS. Where do you get your DNS? I'm surprised that you have a problem with Chrome too though. Usually that is the workaround. I never know whether that is because Chrome uses its own DNS or somehow is more tolerant of too long lookups.
BTW the Find a forum tool does not recognize SSIS. I was only able to find it by searching Forum threads
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlintegrationservices/threads
Anyway if you do an ipconfig /displaydns after trying to open that you will probably see nothing but CNAME records, e.g. in particular no A(record) for an IP address to be used.
If instead I do only an nslookup and then try to open the IP address that shows I get redirected here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx
So with problem symptoms such as yours what I usually suggest is using ping -n 1 -w 1 to ensure that a complete lookup is loaded in the dnscache for your browser to try to use. And in this case you will have to work quickly because the Time to Live values are quite small. E.g. the biggest I saw was 15 seconds.
In this case, just pinging the host we want found its canonical host and then I was able to ping that to get one with the IP address. So you could probably get away with just typing the two ping commands and reusing them with CursorUp, then quickly switching to an IE window. Otherwise you may have to construct a cmd file script to do all the steps, including launching the browser with the correct URL specified.
Note that the IE Network troubleshooter will not help with this scenario, since all it does is ensure that there is a lookup. In particular it does not do anything about loading the dnscache with an A record. The troubleshooter normally does help when CNAME records are not involved.
FYI- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:07 PM
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In case it matters, I am always already in the forum replying when the error occurs.
In that case supposedly IE caches the lookup and does not even do another one, so if a real lookup should have been done instead, that would be a different issue. E.g. IE might be using an IP address which it would not otherwise. Your network guys could use a protocol analyzer such as NetMon or Wireshark to find out if that is what is happening. Or there may be sufficient clues at just the HTTP level in which case you could use IE Developer Tools' Network Capture to look at those yourself.- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:08 PM
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It seems like an error caused by your ISP.--Alexis Zhanghttp://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/jiehttp://blogs.itecn.net/blogs/alexisHi. More often than not, I'm getting errors posting to msdn in the last couple of days. A big yellow block appears in both IE andChrome saying "This Page Cannot be Displayed".
- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:07 PM
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its only on msdn forums.
I agree with Alexis. An example would be a deficient DNS. Where do you get your DNS? I'm surprised that you have a problem with Chrome too though. Usually that is the workaround. I never know whether that is because Chrome uses its own DNS or somehow is more tolerant of too long lookups.
BTW the Find a forum tool does not recognize SSIS. I was only able to find it by searching Forum threads
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlintegrationservices/threads
Anyway if you do an ipconfig /displaydns after trying to open that you will probably see nothing but CNAME records, e.g. in particular no A(record) for an IP address to be used.
If instead I do only an nslookup and then try to open the IP address that shows I get redirected here:
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx
So with problem symptoms such as yours what I usually suggest is using ping -n 1 -w 1 to ensure that a complete lookup is loaded in the dnscache for your browser to try to use. And in this case you will have to work quickly because the Time to Live values are quite small. E.g. the biggest I saw was 15 seconds.
In this case, just pinging the host we want found its canonical host and then I was able to ping that to get one with the IP address. So you could probably get away with just typing the two ping commands and reusing them with CursorUp, then quickly switching to an IE window. Otherwise you may have to construct a cmd file script to do all the steps, including launching the browser with the correct URL specified.
Note that the IE Network troubleshooter will not help with this scenario, since all it does is ensure that there is a lookup. In particular it does not do anything about loading the dnscache with an A record. The troubleshooter normally does help when CNAME records are not involved.
FYI- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:07 PM
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I'll ask my network guys to interpret but this sounds like a big hassle taht I've never had to deal with in yrs of using the forum. Will post back here. In case it matters, I am always already in the forum replying when the error occurs. No proof but it might be just in the ssis forum. Also got the sense that smaller replies had a better chance of working.
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- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Unproposed as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:08 PM
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In case it matters, I am always already in the forum replying when the error occurs.
In that case supposedly IE caches the lookup and does not even do another one, so if a real lookup should have been done instead, that would be a different issue. E.g. IE might be using an IP address which it would not otherwise. Your network guys could use a protocol analyzer such as NetMon or Wireshark to find out if that is what is happening. Or there may be sufficient clues at just the HTTP level in which case you could use IE Developer Tools' Network Capture to look at those yourself.- Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Friday, May 24, 2013 11:22 PM
- Marked as answer by Richard MuellerMVP, Banned Friday, May 31, 2013 1:08 PM