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  • Question

  • As it says in the title.  When I try booting from the new drive (a clone of the old one) I can only boot into a blue desktop with the words "Not a genuine build" or some such thing.  What can I do?  

    Here's a link to the reddit tech support thread I made trying to figure out the issue: http://www.reddit.com/r/techsupport/comments/yjzx7/windows_and_bios_unable_to_detect_the_brand_new/

    And here is my Diagnostic Tool info:

    Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
    -----------------------------------------
    Windows Validation Data-->

    Validation Code: 0
    Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-9FYR2-2K8JW-2BKRX
    Windows Product Key Hash: SUHqJwBRl4SsExYVfE3+giFbHME=
    Windows Product ID: 00359-112-0151194-85466
    Windows Product ID Type: 5
    Windows License Type: Retail
    Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003
    ID: {A03D4A30-115F-4298-BAAF-FE26AB1008F5}(1)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Product Name: Windows 7 Home Premium
    Architecture: 0x00000009
    Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.120503-2030
    TTS Error: 
    Validation Diagnostic: 
    Resolution Status: N/A

    Vista WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    Windows XP Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Users\Dustin Tucker\AppData\Local\Google\Chrome\Application\chrome.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{A03D4A30-115F-4298-BAAF-FE26AB1008F5}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010300.1.0.003</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-2BKRX</PKey><PID>00359-112-0151194-85466</PID><PIDType>5</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-331621655-310673810-3141346829</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Manufacturer><Model>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>P1.10</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="6"/><Date>20110830000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>55F33A07018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0409</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>Eastern Standard Time(GMT-05:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>  

    Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002

    Licensing Data-->
    Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514

    Name: Windows(R) 7, HomePremium edition
    Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, RETAIL channel
    Activation ID: 2e7d060d-4714-40f2-9896-1e4f15b612ad
    Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
    Extended PID: 00359-00170-112-015119-00-1033-7600.0000-3002011
    Installation ID: 021603689346594470837354600732528805536441795141845631
    Processor Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88338
    Machine Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88339
    Use License URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88341
    Product Key Certificate URL: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkID=88340
    Partial Product Key: 2BKRX
    License Status: Licensed
    Remaining Windows rearm count: 4
    Trusted time: 8/21/2012 8:07:18 PM

    Windows Activation Technologies-->
    HrOffline: 0x00000000
    HrOnline: 0x00000000
    HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
    Event Time Stamp: 7:26:2012 15:47
    ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
    HealthStatus Bitmask Output:


    HWID Data-->
    HWID Hash Current: NgAAAAEABAABAAEAAQADAAAAAQABAAEAln0mUTJ+YjRK3doBOKHsO5ZR1sBiPZr5PW0+Fy5z

    OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
    N/A

    OEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
    BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
    Windows marker version: N/A
    OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
    BIOS Information: 
      ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
      APIC ALASKA A M I
      FACP ALASKA A M I
      HPET ALASKA A M I
      MCFG ALASKA A M I
      SSDT AMICPU PROC
      AAFT ALASKA OEMAAFT 


    • Edited by Dustin_T Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:39 AM
    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:14 AM

Answers

  • The problem with cloning from a standard HDD to an SSD is that the drive geometries are completely different.  The biggest issue is the differences in block alignments.  Also, SSDs do not use cylinders, sectors, etc. 

    The more sophisticated cloning software (latest versions) do account for the differences and create a correct partition table for your drive.  I have used Acronis for this.

    You have a retail copy of Windows so there is no problem doing a clean install provided that your copy is a full license and not an upgrade license.  When you do a clean install, deleting and recreating the partition first, the SSD's drive controller will automatically create a new partition table using the correct geometry.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 8GB ram.

    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:00 PM
    Answerer

All replies

  • I'm leaning toward just reinstalling Windows 7 from scratch onto the new drive.  Will my product key still work?  How many times can I use one key to install windows?
    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:27 AM
  • More fun times.  So I decided, hell with it, I'll just do a fresh install.  Did a quick format of the drive, disconnected my two others, and booted from my Windows 7 CD.

    Can't do it.  "Windows cannot be installed to this disk.  The selected disk has an MBR partition table.  On EFI systems, Windows can only be installed to GPT disks."

    So I try to format it.  Nope: "Failed to format the selected partition. [Error: 0x8004242d]."

    What can I do now?

    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:00 AM
  • Since you've wiped teh drive, this no longer comes under this forum's terms of reference, and you should repost in a more appropriate forum - the Answers Windows 7 forums here... http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-windows_install

    For what it's worth, there was no apparent problem with activation in your original report (it showed as activated, and the last status change in validation occurred on 26 July), and getting that message on a blue background is not a 'normal' Windows scenario - I would suspect malware.


    Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi | CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth

    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:34 AM
    Moderator
  • I can easily re-clone the drive and try this again if I find a solution here.  Takes about thirty minutes.

    Also, the above report is with the "good" drive in.  I couldn't do anything at all with the SSD.  It would bring up the login screen, then hang on a screen saying "Preparing your desktop..."  It would stay there for a long time, then bring up a blank Windows 95-style desktop with the "not genuine" text in the bottom right corner.  From that desktop, I could not do anything at all except shut down, it seemed.

    Sorry I wasn't more clear about that.  It had been a long day, lol.


    • Edited by Dustin_T Wednesday, August 22, 2012 1:57 PM
    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 12:47 PM
  • The problem with cloning from a standard HDD to an SSD is that the drive geometries are completely different.  The biggest issue is the differences in block alignments.  Also, SSDs do not use cylinders, sectors, etc. 

    The more sophisticated cloning software (latest versions) do account for the differences and create a correct partition table for your drive.  I have used Acronis for this.

    You have a retail copy of Windows so there is no problem doing a clean install provided that your copy is a full license and not an upgrade license.  When you do a clean install, deleting and recreating the partition first, the SSD's drive controller will automatically create a new partition table using the correct geometry.


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 8GB ram.

    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 4:00 PM
    Answerer
  • Hmm, see, I tried to do a clean install after trying cloning, but ran into the issues I listed above (third post).  Also, I have the full license for Win7.

    Should I try formatting the SSD a certain way from Windows before trying a clean install?  

    Also, the cloning was done with Norton Ghost 15.0, which was bundled with the Samsung SSD.  Not a fan of Norton products, generally, but I figured if it was the recommended software...

    Wednesday, August 22, 2012 11:35 PM
  • Just let the SSD's drive controller do the partition creation.  It will create the correct partition table.  Windows Setup does not need special instructions to do the formatting.  The issue isn't the formatting anyway.  The issue is the partition table.  SSDs need the sector offsets at zero and multiples of 4k.  HDDs use offsets that account for the cylinder layout (which SSDs don't like). 


    Colin Barnhorst Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on DIY with 8GB ram.


    Thursday, August 23, 2012 12:02 AM
    Answerer