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Irritating bugs - still nothing done.

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  • The new (VB) forums have some very irritating bugs.

    1) You cannot copy and paste an URL from the address line of IE to the input form. This is extremely irritating and may lead to errors. It seems that this is a new bug introduced in the VB forum. As far as I remember, this worked previously in the new Base class forum.

    2) When you select the next page, the forum first jumps to the beginning of the present page. This is very irritating. I reported this bug shortly after the new forum was introduced, but still nothing is done.

    3) It is still not possible to use the forum if the safety settings for the internet zone is set to high and the forum is added to the trusted sites with medium safety. I have also reported this bug previously, but again nothing is done. How difficult can it be to make a list of used sites if you know what you are doing? It is very irritating that I have to change my general safety setting every time I visit the Microsoft forums.

    4) The new forums are flickering, slowed down and reduced in size by completely useless information like the Browse-By-Tag box and the slowly blending medals.

    5) It is still not possible to jump back to the thread list when you have answered a thread. The return button of the browser brings you back to the answer page so you have to start all over again with the start page and page 1 of the thread list for every reply.

    6) It is irritating that it may take several minutes - sometimes even hours as today (Jan. 10th) - from a thread is answered until the answer appears in the thread list. When you open the thread, your answer is there all right, but the thread list is not updated.

    7) You cannot edit anything when the spell checker is active. The keyboard is dead and if you try, the spell checker window disappers and there is no way to get it back.

    8) The spell checker does not understand .Net. It is very irritating that you have to press Ignore for all the .Net keywords like BeginInvoke, Invoke etc. There is also no way to mark code, so that the spell checker ignores this.

     


    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
    Saturday, January 10, 2009 11:04 AM

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  • Good list, I find many things in the list irritative, too. For example when the page first jumps to top and then refreshes. It should be the other way around, because the refreshing takes so long but the jump is instant. Every time it jumps, I get the feeling I have new results, but they are the old and then suddenly - the page refreshes. I have reported this thing before, too.
    Wednesday, January 14, 2009 12:20 PM
  • Great points. Also they need to update the old links so they don't need to redirect.
    Monday, January 19, 2009 7:28 AM
  • Where is the link to old forums? Or is all topics moved / erased already?
    Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:38 AM
  • Let me preface this by saying a pretty major web tier update is in the works. Lots of comments and suggestions over the past year are being taken in to consideration.

    1. By pasting an address, I'm assuming that you mean that it doesn't automatically create a link(<a>)?

    2. Paging won't be ajaxy so this behavior would go away.

    3. I believe you have reported this issue before. We'll have to test it out with the new version and if it still exists as a problem.

    4. Page weight is going down significantly. Ajax in page updates are being worked on, I expect the flickering should at least be reduced.

    5. Could you expand a little on this one? The breadcrumb would navigate you to the forum/threads list, or if you use the expand/collapse thread preview from threads list  and reply from there, you never leave the thread list.

    6. We're working on these kinds of issues. A release went out after Jan 10th which should've taken care of some of that. Let us know if you are seeing these kinds of things so we can fix the issue(s).

    7. There will be changes to the editor. Though there may be short term loss for the greater good.

    8. See 7 :)


    Rob J, Forums Dev
    Wednesday, January 28, 2009 5:26 PM
  • 1) No. It was not possible to copy and paste anything from the address line of IE (no input at all). I have tried it later and now it seems to work as it did previously.

    3) Yes I have reported this before and it is still a problem and very easy to test. Just set the safety of the internet zone to high and try to open a forum. The forum opens, but there is no content like thread list etc. It ought to be very easy to write a list of used sites so that they all can be added to the trusted ones. In fact, it is very bad practice to redirect to sites, which are unknown to the user! This is really the way to get virus. Therefore, I set the safety of the internet zone to high and then add sites I trust to the trusted ones. As long as Microsoft has not been able to make a safe browser, this is unfortunately the only way to surf the internet fairly safe.

    5) What do you mean with 'breadcrumb'? I have looked for such a function, but never been able to find it. If it is small like a breadcrumb, please make it so big that we kan see it :-)


    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
    Thursday, January 29, 2009 7:54 PM
  • Carsten Kanstrup said:

    5) What do you mean with 'breadcrumb'? I have looked for such a function, but never been able to find it. If it is small like a breadcrumb, please make it so big that we kan see it :-)


    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.


    By breadcrumb, Rob means the links just above the thread title that show the hierarchy of where you are in the site.

    Matt Fraser, STO Forums Software Developer
    Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:30 PM
  • Carsten Kanstrup said:

    3) Yes I have reported this before and it is still a problem and very easy to test. Just set the safety of the internet zone to high and try to open a forum. The forum opens, but there is no content like thread list etc. It ought to be very easy to write a list of used sites so that they all can be added to the trusted ones. In fact, it is very bad practice to redirect to sites, which are unknown to the user! This is really the way to get virus. Therefore, I set the safety of the internet zone to high and then add sites I trust to the trusted ones. As long as Microsoft has not been able to make a safe browser, this is unfortunately the only way to surf the internet fairly safe.


    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.



    You should be able to add *.microsoft.com and *.live.com to your trusted sites, and I believe everything will render...
    Matt Fraser, STO Forums Software Developer
    Thursday, January 29, 2009 10:35 PM
  • Thanks that works. Just strange that it should take ½ year and several complaints to find the two simple sites :-)
    Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler.
    Friday, January 30, 2009 7:27 AM