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  • So this is something that I've been wrestling with for some time, because honestly - I'm just not sure what to do. I don't want to end up wasting my time. :/I've done a lot of Googling/Binging and just when I think I have it figured out, I start to question things again.

    So, let me run this all by you experts. Here's the problem I have when I start to browse MS certs - I ultimately want to be a developer, so MCSD (Web Apps, I believe) is naturally what I should do. I don't have a lot of formal on the job experience with IT at all, but I do have 3/4th of a Web Development degree done (Bachelor) but I won't be able to finish due to money issues - there's NO way around it at this time, so while I have a lot of school "experience" and freelance experience developing sites, I'm totally new to the MS stack - I know nothing about C#, Razer, Asp.net, etc, and so forth. So in a way, MCSD is totally new stuff to me.

    I've figured that the best way to give myself an edge in the job market, is to earn a certification (Since I can't finish my degree right now, I think a cert is perfect here - it gives me some sort of validation on top of my portfolio)

    So all of THAT being said, here's where I get hung up - if you look at MS certs, there's a nice handy pyramid that shows all of the MCSE/MCSA/MCSD options - and the bottom tier starts with MCSA on the hardware/IT support side - and then the next tier is MCSE and so on. On the OTHER side, there's the developer path - and the first tier is MCSD - but it shows it on the same level as MCSE on that other side (I hope this is making sense, just trying to break things down into simple terms - it helps me too :P )

    So to me, it seems like the MCSD is a hefty title, and it's not really an entry level cert like MCSA is...

    ...Is this the only option for an aspiring developer? I don't want to waste time with an MTA, because while I'm pretty new to the IT field, it doesn't seem like MTA holds a ton of weight.

    I have started to study for the MCSD - I've decided that the Web Apps path is the path for me (If anyone feels like another path would be better, I am all ears) and I've started studying C# (Always wanted to learn C#!) Am I doing the right thing here, or should I be doing something else? I REALLY want to get rolling in the IT field, but I'm not interested in a help desk/support role - I want to stick to developer as much as possible.

    Thanks for listening to all of my thoughts - hopefully this all makes sense. I just want to make sure I take the best/most straightforward path towards my dream job.

    Wednesday, June 11, 2014 12:51 PM

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  • In my own personal experience, I am seeing ZERO demand for developers of Windows Store apps. Sorry about that, I know that both Microsoft as well as many of us would like it to be otherwise, but the reality is that companies are not demanding that kind of development work.

    On the other hand, if you wish to do something different from the usual Web apps in order to differentiate yourself from the bulk of developers, you may wish to consider the MSCD:Sharepoint Applications. There is a lot of demand for Sharepoint development and few people who are really good at it.

    As to your question about MCSD: Yes, it is right there at the top alongside MCSE. It is considered a high-level certificaton. Forget about MTA, this is an entry-level cert which won't do much to help you find a job unless you are looking for something low-level such as helpdesk.

    Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:35 AM
  • Yes, there is something in between the MTA and the MCSD: You can get a "Specialist" certification. For instance, you can take exam 70-480 and get certified as "Programming in HTML5 with JavaScript and CSS3 Specialist". This exam will count towards your MCSD certification if you later choose to pursue it. Another similar exam is 70-483, which will get you certified as "Programming in C# Specialist".
    Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:23 AM

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  • I guess I should also say I do like the idea of developing Windows apps - a lot of people talk crap about 'em, but I have a feeling they're here to stay. Windows will be here for awhile :P

    So maybe I should think more about MCSD: Windows Store Apps - not sure.

    Wednesday, June 11, 2014 1:19 PM
  • In my own personal experience, I am seeing ZERO demand for developers of Windows Store apps. Sorry about that, I know that both Microsoft as well as many of us would like it to be otherwise, but the reality is that companies are not demanding that kind of development work.

    On the other hand, if you wish to do something different from the usual Web apps in order to differentiate yourself from the bulk of developers, you may wish to consider the MSCD:Sharepoint Applications. There is a lot of demand for Sharepoint development and few people who are really good at it.

    As to your question about MCSD: Yes, it is right there at the top alongside MCSE. It is considered a high-level certificaton. Forget about MTA, this is an entry-level cert which won't do much to help you find a job unless you are looking for something low-level such as helpdesk.

    Thursday, June 12, 2014 6:35 AM
  • Thanks for your input - I appreciate it. The more that I think about it, I'm starting to agree about the lack of demand for Windows store apps - I think Im just hoping for that to change; it may one day (It has to right? lol)

    I've never even given SharePoint any thought at all - I really know nothing about it, not afraid to say it lol. So I can definitely understand why there's huge demand and few people to fill the demand. I'm going to peruse the SharePoint site and the MCSD: SharePoint Applications pages and do some studying/thinking. The MCSD just seems a little intimidating; I'd love it if there was something that was just one step down from there - but definitely NOT MTA :P I really want to jump in further into IT, but I don't want to go the helpdesk route if possible. Junior developer or something, if that's a thing.

    Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:34 AM
  • Yes, there is something in between the MTA and the MCSD: You can get a "Specialist" certification. For instance, you can take exam 70-480 and get certified as "Programming in HTML5 with JavaScript and CSS3 Specialist". This exam will count towards your MCSD certification if you later choose to pursue it. Another similar exam is 70-483, which will get you certified as "Programming in C# Specialist".
    Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:23 AM
  • I stumbled onto that as well! I think I may stick with C# and knock that test out - so being certified as a specialist should give my resume a bit of weight? At least more than note having it, and I feel like I can take that in various directions as far as MCSD paths go, from what I can see.
    Thursday, June 12, 2014 8:32 AM