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    just for knowlege sake,...wanted to know how do the admins detect fake referrals done on SR?...cuz this manupulation has been goin lots on SR thru a lot of manipulative ways,so thought of askin whether points are also deducted at the end of the year cuz of this??
    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 6:22 AM

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    I don't think checking activity is used. Then many will loose points. It maybe a case that we may reffer someone and he/she after registering do not participate actively. Checking unusual profile names maybe one of the methods used. Admins can answer this best.
    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 5:15 PM

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    well i think they make call or check the mobile number user

     

    otherwise they check unactive accounts

    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 2:00 PM
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    may b they r tracking the user activities...but not sure...
    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 3:43 PM
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    I don't think checking activity is used. Then many will loose points. It maybe a case that we may reffer someone and he/she after registering do not participate actively. Checking unusual profile names maybe one of the methods used. Admins can answer this best.
    Tuesday, October 9, 2007 5:15 PM
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    i think it may be tracking with ip address...and also unusual names...no other way...
    Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:27 PM
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    IP address can't be a solution because very few ISPs give static IP. Some give dynamic IPs and others use IP masquerade.
    Thursday, October 11, 2007 5:33 PM
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    Last time many persons were caught for making fake referrals I don't know what exactly is the procedure but IP address might not be the way since Abhrajit has rightly stated that in India most of the providers use dynamic IP addressing so you cannot check this problem by this.

    If the problem turns out to be serious then I think they might not consider the whole referral stuff.

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    Also they can give a computer generated no. to the sms ed user and then the person who has recieved this sms has to enter the same code while registering for the contest

    if he fails to do so the points for the person who has given this referral should not be incremented.

    Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:05 PM
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    @Preetam

    This is not a possible solution but this is the solution which admins have adopted. But still fakes are coming up using sms method also.
    Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:29 PM
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    I dont think there is any method of detecting the fake referrals, because the referal system itself is very sound to prevent any fake referal...

    So try putting down ways of making a fake referral....

    And if you are trying to catch the fake referral by means of activity, well for your statistics only...
    I referred to around 20 of my classmates.. out of this only 4 registered, out of that i recieved points for only 2, and believe me, this 2 are hardly active... Even their login points at rockstar site might be hardly 10....

    But still i have the referral points... and they are not fake....

    So try out, and give a way to make a fake referral, you will find lots of trouble in it...

    As for the announcement of Referral Fraud, does anyone knows who was Narayanan N ??? I dont seem to recall this name, in the forums...
    Thursday, October 11, 2007 6:36 PM
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    Well I have no idea that how fake referrals caught, but at the end of the contest fake referrals points are deducted...   so be very careful.. 
    Friday, October 12, 2007 2:38 AM
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    Deleting the referal points for the Inactive Referals doesnt matters !! Thats not our fault , we have just refered them but they are not active , so we cant do anything for them !! So deleting Inactive referals will not work !! Also calling to the Mobile numbers may also go wrong in some cases , bcoz what do some of them registered them with their fathers mobile !! I have referred nearly 4 of them who registered using there fathers mobile !!

                              May be ADMIN have to think some thing else !!

    Friday, October 12, 2007 10:16 AM
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    @ preetham Ghosh

     

    A possible solution :
    Also they can give a computer generated no. to the sms ed user and then the person who has recieved this sms has to enter the same code while registering for the contest

    if he fails to do so the points for the person who has given this referral should not be incremented.

     

     

     

    I think ,, this is what they are doing for referals from the starting of the contest !!!

     

     


     

    Friday, October 12, 2007 10:21 AM
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    many of my friends registered but they dint get the sms to their mobiles what do u say for this issue..because of this i dont believe in referral i dint get any points in referrals..
    Saturday, October 13, 2007 4:26 PM
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    The refferal process is buggy. At the initial stages, some of my e-mails weren't delivered to my friends. Lost out on those points, coz re-refferal to a same number is not allowed.
    Saturday, October 13, 2007 6:55 PM
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    ya the new concept of referral is not at all good..it should be changed...or else there should'nt be any referral process...
    Monday, October 15, 2007 2:55 PM
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    i do accept that some of the referral mails don reach the person to whome we hav sent it...but its not fair to say that this idea to avoid fake referral is bad...this concept is really good...
    Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:09 AM
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    if person didnt get any invitation u cant send again....wat a *** it is....
    Tuesday, October 16, 2007 9:09 AM
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    Idea to avoid fake refferal is good, atleast those whose mails are getting sent and are genuine are getting points.
    Tuesday, October 16, 2007 6:42 PM
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    hi i think the admin will check it out by  user activity n if the activity is ideal means then he will find out r else by ip address also...
    Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:14 AM
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    User activity and ip address can't be a solution. If a friend of yours doesn't login, then why should you loose points. As far as ip address is concerned. Very few ISPs give static IPs to domestic users. Either you have dynamic ip or ip masquerade(all users of that ISP being routed through a single ip).
    Thursday, October 18, 2007 6:11 PM
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    I agree with Abhrajit_Mukherjee_280650.......

     

    That is way to detect it but it has some drawback

     

    If any referrals do not respond for any other reason then  it would be detect as fake

    Friday, October 19, 2007 7:55 AM
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    wht possible solution u have provided is already being used by microsoft......

    whn u reffer someone u gve first name last name email id n mobile no....

    after filling in all the registering details .....they send u a code n u have to enter the code error free in the first attempt......if u fail to do so the one who refered u doesnt gets points......

    Friday, November 2, 2007 10:08 AM
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    Waiting for ADMINs reply
    Thursday, January 3, 2008 3:12 PM