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    I have about 133 gigs of data to back up on a 10/100 mbs running at 100mbs I understand that to be closer to 11 megs per seconds or around that area, but it seems that the databack up is getting stuck at 35%, so far two trys have ended near the same time with data flying over the network clogging the bandwith on this first major back up I'm doing but it gets stuck at 35%, windows server nor my Vista ever says their is a problem so my question is

    #1) is it just doing a really big file perhaps one of my 10gig home movies
    #2) is it stuck if so why is data still moving
    #3) how long at best should it take to transfer 133 gig's fo data from one computer to the other?
    #4) Any idea or refrences that can show me how to backup only the files I care about like my movies and not the windows program its self, the system restore is nice, however all I really need to back up, and or share is my home videos, photo's and what little music I do have here.  Thanks in advance.


    Thing's ive tryed so far include restarting the transfe,
    monitoring the data in task mannager to make sure it has not gotten stuck and the wired network sits right at .50% of cap of the 100 mbps per second seems like it could be related to the problem.


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    Draklor
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 10:41 AM

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    1. It could be encountering a large file and taking some time to copy. How long did you let the backup go before deciding it was stuck? The first backup can take quite some time due to the large volume of data that needs to be copied. Subsequent backups will go faster assuming there is not a lot of data that has changed.

    2. It is likely not stuck given that data is still being transfered but I can't say for certain without knowing a lot more about your setup.

    3. The backup operation is not only bounded by network speed, it is also bounded by disk transfer speed and your WHS processing speed. It does have a certain amount of non-trivial overhead processing to do with the data as part of the backup process. This volume of data would take several hours over 10/100 depending on network saturation and disk transfer speeds on both ends.

    4. You have a few options here. The first is you can manually move all of your shareable data to the appropriate WHS share and as long as you have two or more hard drives with duplication enabled on the share you are protected against single drive failure. The second is to configure your backups using the WHS console to exclude folders that you don't care about backing up. If you use both options together, you can significantly cut down on the size and length of time the backups take. You should be able to find out steps how to do this by using the help provided with WHS
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:18 AM
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    I had this when I first started running WHS. It's not actually backing anything up at all. If you check the logs, you'll find that it's done all the preparatory work and is stalling when it tries to send the actual data. I had to reinstall the client OS (I forget whether it was XP or Vista)
    qts
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 12:25 PM
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    BTW an upgrade install of the OS didn't work. And here's the original thread.
    qts
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:42 PM
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    Well at the time of posting the orignal message, it was at 35%, and 8 hours latter it moved 1% that cant be right I'll check out those threads you posted=) and yea I dont think its transfered anything yet but network trafic has been steady at .05%  all day on that computer (very very low number)
    Draklor
    Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:42 PM
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    Just a data-point, but last night I moved 440 Gb of stuff from one external drive to another over a USB-2 cable (thru a Vista laptop).  It took slightly over 9 hours.

    So, if your data (less than 1/3 the size) is taking roughly the same amount of time over (arguably) a much faster transport vehicle, there's... something wrong.  It probably isn't a bandwidth issue with the 10/100 link.

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    Thursday, April 2, 2009 9:57 PM
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    I have about 133 gigs of data to back up on a 10/100 mbs running at 100mbs I understand that to be closer to 11 megs per seconds or around that area, but it seems that the databack up is getting stuck at 35%, so far two trys have ended near the same time with data flying over the network clogging the bandwith on this first major back up I'm doing but it gets stuck at 35%, windows server nor my Vista ever says their is a problem so my question is

    #1) is it just doing a really big file perhaps one of my 10gig home movies
    #2) is it stuck if so why is data still moving
    #3) how long at best should it take to transfer 133 gig's fo data from one computer to the other?
    #4) Any idea or refrences that can show me how to backup only the files I care about like my movies and not the windows program its self, the system restore is nice, however all I really need to back up, and or share is my home videos, photo's and what little music I do have here.  Thanks in advance.


    Thing's ive tryed so far include restarting the transfe,
    monitoring the data in task mannager to make sure it has not gotten stuck and the wired network sits right at .50% of cap of the 100 mbps per second seems like it could be related to the problem.


    Hunter
    Draklor

    Hi,

    When backup fails prior to 81% (there's that number again), it is usually client side. This might be related to VSS. Do you have any other backup software or image writing software installed on your Vista client?

    Thanks!
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    None that I know of, I turned off system restore as some posts in other threads have said were helpfull, and while windows Vista has backup software on it, I have not used it.  And other than those two I dont have any backup software on this computer.
    Draklor
    Friday, April 3, 2009 11:04 PM
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    Well it could be, is it possible for a driver to affect the bandwith even if the device works ok, if that could be the case how would one tell.

    I transfered one large file today to see what my bandwith was on my 10/100 network and It was really bad, close to 51 kbps dial up speeds Im going to test it with another computer here soon to see if the data moves any faster.

    Draklor
    Friday, April 3, 2009 11:06 PM
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     I think this could be a problem with my router, all my computers are transfering files at that speed.
    Draklor
    Saturday, April 4, 2009 2:30 PM