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Is my Windows 7 genuine?

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Can anyone please tell me if my Windows 7 Pro is genuine? Here's the report produced by MGADiag.
Diagnostic Report (1.9.0027.0):
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Windows Validation Data-->Validation Code: 0
Cached Online Validation Code: 0x0
Windows Product Key: *****-*****-4GDKY-42QXV-PYDQV
Windows Product Key Hash: aXHM7suix+Xs3hNW7gGqX0MuIk8=
Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9307225-19760
Windows Product ID Type: 8
Windows License Type: COA SLP
Windows OS version: 6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048
ID: {0C7B4994-730F-4831-895B-41EE3D3EE0D9}(1)
Is Admin: Yes
TestCab: 0x0
LegitcheckControl ActiveX: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Product Name: Windows 7 Professional
Architecture: 0x00000009
Build lab: 7601.win7sp1_gdr.130828-1532
TTS Error:
Validation Diagnostic:
Resolution Status: N/AVista WgaER Data-->
ThreatID(s): N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002Windows XP Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
File Exists: No
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002OGA Notifications Data-->
Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAExec.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002OGA Data-->
Office Status: 109 N/A
OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
Office Diagnostics: 025D1FF3-364-80041010_025D1FF3-229-80041010_025D1FF3-230-1_025D1FF3-517-80040154_025D1FF3-237-80040154_025D1FF3-238-2_025D1FF3-244-80070002_025D1FF3-258-3Browser Data-->
Proxy settings: N/A
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Win32)
Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
Active scripting: Allowed
Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: AllowedFile Scan Data-->
Other data-->
Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{0C7B4994-730F-4831-895B-41EE3D3EE0D9}</UGUID><Version>1.9.0027.0</Version><OS>6.1.7601.2.00010100.1.0.048</OS><Architecture>x64</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-PYDQV</PKey><PID>00371-OEM-9307225-19760</PID><PIDType>8</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1625392068-609473771-3996547450</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Manufacturer><Model>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>American Megatrends Inc.</Manufacturer><Version>P2.30</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="7"/><Date>20120629000000.000000+000</Date></BIOS><HWID>68DA3507018400FE</HWID><UserLCID>0809</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>GMT Standard Time(GMT+00:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><GANotification/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>Spsys.log Content: 0x80070002
Licensing Data-->
Software licensing service version: 6.1.7601.17514Name: Windows(R) 7, Professional edition
Description: Windows Operating System - Windows(R) 7, OEM_COA_SLP channel
Activation ID: da22eadd-46dc-4056-a287-f5041c852470
Application ID: 55c92734-d682-4d71-983e-d6ec3f16059f
Extended PID: 00371-00186-072-219760-02-2057-7601.0000-0812014
Installation ID: 017382762204124345866994390675379224179116503424199022
Processor Certificate URL: link not allowed
Machine Certificate URL: link not allowed
Use License URL: link not allowed
Product Key Certificate URL: link not allowed
Partial Product Key: PYDQV
License Status: Licensed
Remaining Windows rearm count: 3
Trusted time: 20/04/2014 15:32:47Windows Activation Technologies-->
HrOffline: 0x00000000
HrOnline: 0x00000000
HealthStatus: 0x0000000000000000
Event Time Stamp: 3:17:2014 20:00
ActiveX: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
Admin Service: Registered, Version: 7.1.7600.16395
HealthStatus Bitmask Output:
HWID Data-->
HWID Hash Current: NAAAAAIABAABAAEAAAACAAAAAQABAAEAhFEmUQka/Yh86XTE8D2cn8LwXD6KmzyldJYucw==OEM Activation 1.0 Data-->
N/AOEM Activation 2.0 Data-->
BIOS valid for OA 2.0: yes, but no SLIC table
Windows marker version: N/A
OEMID and OEMTableID Consistent: N/A
BIOS Information:
ACPI Table Name OEMID Value OEMTableID Value
APIC ALASKA A M I
FACP ALASKA A M I
HPET ALASKA A M I
MCFG ALASKA A M I
ASF! INTEL HCG
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
AAFT ALASKA OEMAAFT
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
SSDT Intel_ AoacTabl
BGRT ALASKA A M I
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Sunday, April 20, 2014 2:49 PM
Sunday, April 20, 2014 2:35 PM
Answers
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You have a OEM_COA_SLP type Key installed - which in theory is only valid for machines from large-scale manufacturers.
Your motherboard appears to be a retail one.
Balance of probabilities is that your license is counterfeit - or at the very least, non-valid.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. - Proposed as answer by Kamin of Ressik Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:42 PM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, May 2, 2014 8:48 AM
Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:01 PMModerator -
What is stated on the DVD disc says it all: Intended for distribution with a refurbished PC
You should have returned the item to the seller and demanded a full refund since he/she sold it improperly.
However, it appears the product key (license) is genuine and you should not have any issues with validation. Please note that this license cannot be transferred to a different PC in the future. And you can upgrade to Windows 8 Pro with no problem.
Good luck!
Carey Frisch
- Edited by Carey FrischMVP, Moderator Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:14 PM edit
- Proposed as answer by Carey FrischMVP, Moderator Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:47 AM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, May 2, 2014 8:47 AM
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:25 PMModerator
All replies
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You have a OEM_COA_SLP type Key installed - which in theory is only valid for machines from large-scale manufacturers.
Your motherboard appears to be a retail one.
Balance of probabilities is that your license is counterfeit - or at the very least, non-valid.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. - Proposed as answer by Kamin of Ressik Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:42 PM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, May 2, 2014 8:48 AM
Sunday, April 20, 2014 7:01 PMModerator -
The CVD and COA sticker both look genuine to me - how can I tell if it's a counterfeit licence?
If it's not counterfeit but is non-valid, does it mean that Windows will be blocked at some point?
NB. The DVD has "Intended for distribution with a refurbished PC" printed on the white surface. I understood this to mean that it's a license for large OEMs and end users who are acting as local OEMs by assembling their own machines (I assembled the PC myself).
Also, the DVD has holograms on both the inner and outer rings - the one on the outer ring has the word 'Microsoft' and this changes to 'Genuine' if I change the angle of light slightly. The COA sticker has two bands (red & blue) running at 90 degrees to the barcode - there are two raised sections on each band.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Monday, April 21, 2014 12:49 PM
Monday, April 21, 2014 11:09 AM -
Hi there,
Firstly, if you go on Google and type in Microsoft genuine validation there should be link where you will be able to check if your OS is genuine. Also, can I ask where you purchased your machine from please?
Thanks.
Monday, April 21, 2014 2:05 PM -
Hi there,
Firstly, if you go on Google and type in Microsoft genuine validation there should be link where you will be able to check if your OS is genuine. Also, can I ask where you purchased your machine from please?
Thanks.
Microsoft's genuine validation web page reports that the OS is genuine. This is confusing, since Noel's interpretation of the MGADiag result seems to indicate otherwise (see 2nd post above).
I didn't purchase the machine from anywhere - I built it from scratch (as mentioned above) and the components came from various retail outlets.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:28 PM
Monday, April 21, 2014 5:22 PM -
The MGA Report is showing that the motherboard is retail - <Manufacturer>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Manufacturer> - This would normally say something like "Dell" or "Lenovo" or "Gateway" if it were an OEM motherboard.
Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9307225-19760 - This shows that it is an OEM OS. That means the OS was sourced from a major manufacturer.
The above two cannot co-exist on the same PC. Where did you get the CD and what is the OS listed on the COA Sticker? Also does the Product Key on the sticker match the one that is listed in the MGA Report? (do NOT list the Product Key from the sticker here)
Finally, there are three types of licenses (at least as far as this conversation is concerned): OEM SLP/COA SLP, OEM System Builder and Retail.
OEM SLP/COA SLP is for large distributors like Dell. An OEM/SLP OS is married to the hardware on which it was originally installed and cannot be transferred to a new motherboard.
OEM System Builder is for smaller system builders and computer shops. A person who builds a computer for their own use or for friends/family is NOT a system builder as defined by the System Builder License! An OEM System Builder OS cannot be transferred to another computer but can be transferred WITH the computer if the computer is transferred to new ownership.
Retail is basically what's left. It does not necessarily refer to how it was purchased, but rather what rights are allowed in the license. A Retail license can be moved from one set of hardware to another as long as the first one is no longer using the OS.
Please do not read this sentence. Please ignore the previous sentence.
Monday, April 21, 2014 10:39 PM -
The MGA Report is showing that the motherboard is retail - <Manufacturer>To Be Filled By O.E.M.</Manufacturer> - This would normally say something like "Dell" or "Lenovo" or "Gateway" if it were an OEM motherboard.
Windows Product ID: 00371-OEM-9307225-19760 - This shows that it is an OEM OS. That means the OS was sourced from a major manufacturer.
The above two cannot co-exist on the same PC. Where did you get the CD and what is the OS listed on the COA Sticker? Also does the Product Key on the sticker match the one that is listed in the MGA Report? (do NOT list the Product Key from the sticker here)
Finally, there are three types of licenses (at least as far as this conversation is concerned): OEM SLP/COA SLP, OEM System Builder and Retail.
OEM SLP/COA SLP is for large distributors like Dell. An OEM/SLP OS is married to the hardware on which it was originally installed and cannot be transferred to a new motherboard.
OEM System Builder is for smaller system builders and computer shops. A person who builds a computer for their own use or for friends/family is NOT a system builder as defined by the System Builder License! An OEM System Builder OS cannot be transferred to another computer but can be transferred WITH the computer if the computer is transferred to new ownership.
Retail is basically what's left. It does not necessarily refer to how it was purchased, but rather what rights are allowed in the license. A Retail license can be moved from one set of hardware to another as long as the first one is no longer using the OS.
ANSWER: The key on the COA sticker matches the key in the MGADiag report.
ANSWER: The OS shown on the COA sticker is Windows 7 Pro OA OEM Software.
ANSWER: The DVD came from an auction site.
QUESTION: The auction page includes this information:
"Microsoft's Distribution Agreement for System Builders states that the system builder software packs are not intended for distribution to end users unless the end users are acting as system builders by assembling their own PCs. A "system builder" is anyone who assembles, reassembles or installs software on a new or used computer system. For OEM software, your software will be bundled with an AS IS non-working hard drive."
Is that information correct, incorrect, or illegal? If it's incorrect or illegal, I don't understand how major UK retail outlets can sell OEM versions of Windows to the public (I'd post a link to one such retailer - ebuyer.com - but this forum won't let me post links or images!)
EDIT - ANSWER TO MY OWN QUESTION
According to this article from PC Pro magazine, Microsoft is quite happy for end user builders to use OEM versions of Windows (I'm not allowed to post links so add the www prefix): pcpro.co.uk/features/351598/how-to-buy-windows-7-for-50-less-the-truth-about-oem-versions
In case you can't get the link to work, this is from the article (pages 1 & 2) - the third line below is the crucial bit:
......... However, it seems common sense has prevailed, and it’s clear from our interview with Laurence Painell that Microsoft is actually quite happy for consumers to install the OEM version of Windows themselves.
“Fundamentally, if a consumer is building their own PC, and we know a lot of enthusiasts do, then the OEM product is obviously a good product to do that,” Painell assured me.
“If they build their own PCs and they understand the complexities of setting up a PC from bare tin then by all means they’re welcome to take the OEM product and install it on a PC. It is designed to be installed on a new-built PC.”
NB. I believe Laurence Painell was Windows Product Manager at the time of the interview and when Windows 7 was launched. The article continues (pages 2 & 3):
......... There’s one fundamental difference between buying a full retail Windows 7 box and the OEM version: the ownership of the licence. When you buy a retail box, it’s your licence. If you want to install it on a completely different PC, you can.
If you buy the OEM version, the licence is limited to the first PC you install it on.
“Typically the OEM product is tied to the motherboard,” explained Painell. “It’s the one component we do tie the OEM product to and the only thing that shouldn’t really change in the PC. People will typically upgrade a hard drive, people will typically upgrade a processor, people will typically upgrade a graphics card, but the motherboard is pretty much the heart of the PC and as such is what we link the OEM product too.”
All is not lost however: “Obviously components do fail, and [in those situations] we would make exceptions and allow people to transfer the licence to another motherboard,” said Painell. “But we would ask that you transfer the licence to a like-for-like motherboard, or as close as you can to it.”
Unlike a retail box, where you’ll be able to activate the new installation of Windows online, to activate the OEM version you’ll need to phone in for a new activation code.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:12 PM
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 11:15 AM -
Selling you an OEM license along with a non-functioning hard drive and claiming that you are now an OEM is called side stepping the license and is not actually valid. Ultimately, Noel's reply is the correct one: An OEM License is not valid when installed on a Retail motherboard.
Please do not read this sentence. Please ignore the previous sentence.
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 2:35 PM -
....... An OEM License is not valid when installed on a Retail motherboard.
Please do not read this sentence. Please ignore the previous sentence.
That contradicts what Microsoft's Laurence Painell said in the interview.
Did you read the entire article (rather than just the extracts I posted above)?
Link: (add www dot) pcpro.co.uk/features/351598/how-to-buy-windows-7-for-50-less-the-truth-about-oem-versions
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:11 PM
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:08 PM -
You can get away with using an OEM System Builder license even though you don't really qualify as an OEM System Builder, plus it would be difficult to find a Retail license of Win 7 these days. The problem is that you don't have an OEM System Builder License. You have an OEM COA SLP license. Those are meant only for large scale companies such as Dell and Gateway. Your OEM COA SLP License will not ever be valid on a Retail motherboard.
Please do not read this sentence. Please ignore the previous sentence.
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:21 PM -
An OEM SLP license for Windows can only be legitimately sold with the original PC it was originally installed on. Microsoft only sells OEM SLP licenses to major "royalty" OEM PC manufacturers, such as Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, etc. The article you refer to talks about "generic" OEM Windows licenses, not "OEM SLP" windows licenses. An example of a generic OEM Windows 7 Professional license can be observed here.
Carey Frisch
- Edited by Carey FrischMVP, Moderator Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:34 PM edit
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 3:27 PMModerator -
If my 'OEM SLP License' is not valid on my retail motherboard, why did it validate (both by phone and on the validation-check website)?
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:07 PM
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:00 PM -
Can't say, but the Microsoft activation servers databases are constantly being updated with product keys discovered to being misused and/or violating the Microsoft Software Licensing Agreement.
Carey Frisch
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:12 PMModerator -
Surely that doesn't make sense - the activation server must have detected right from the start that the motherboard is retail (as MGADiag did), so my license/motherboard combination is either acceptable to Microsoft or it isn't.
My intention is to move to Windows 8.2 if (as is rumoured) it has a proper start/programs menu when it's released. I don't want to get stuck with a blocked Win 7 Pro installation and not be able to upgrade to Win 8.2 via a download from the MS store. I'm beginning to suspect that the whole licensing issue is a total mess.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:13 PM
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:36 PM -
Comment: "I'm beginning to suspect that the whole licensing issue is a total mess."
Response: Not really. Always purchase software from proven, reliable, reputable sources and not from auction web sites where you are dealing with an individual seller that may be peddling software in violation of the software manufacturer's licensing agreements. Rule of thumb: If the price is "too good to be true", the product itself may not be legitimate.
Carey Frisch
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 4:45 PMModerator -
Well, just to check, I just ran the Windows 8 Upgrade Assistant (starting from Win 7 Pro's control panel) and it gets as far as the Win 8 download button - i.e. the Checkout screen. Presumably that means it's accepted my Win 7 Pro license & motherboard combination (since it's checked all the hardware, including the motherboard).
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Tuesday, April 22, 2014 6:14 PM
Tuesday, April 22, 2014 5:26 PM -
...which is totally irrelevant to the original problem of whether your COA sticker is actually valid, or your OEM_COA_SLP License is valid.
Technical tests can only do so much - and there are ways of circumventing almost all of them. The ultimate arbiter of all of this is MS's Activation Center (who will themselves only consult their database, and perhaps conduct a technical test)
Refurbishers have to follow the same rules as everyone else in respect of licensing. There are one or two who may have the ability to issue OEM_COA_SLP Licenses, but not many.
Who is the Refurabisher, quoted on the COA sticker you have?
Refurbishers are NOT ALLOWED to replace the motherboard on machines they refurbish - therefore a machine with an OEM_COA_SLP license cannot be valid, whether 'from the manufacturer' or from a refurbisher.
Many such machines recently have been 'refurbished' using fake Keys and DELL recovery media - which are no more valid than a chocolate teapot.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. Tuesday, April 22, 2014 9:35 PMModerator -
There is no refurbisher name on the COA sticker - unless it's in the form of a barcode number (unlikely).
The left side of the sticker says this:
WINDOWS 7 PRO OA
OEM SOFTWARE
BARCODE
FQC-01159
00186-XXX-XXX-XXX (X is a number)
ANOTHER BARCODE (not the same as the first one)
PRODUCT KEY: XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-PYDQV
PIRACY/HOWTOTELL WEB ADDRESSAnd on the right of the red & blue vertical stripes is this:
PROOF OF LICENSE
CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY
MICROSOFT
COPYRIGHT 2005 MICROSOFT CORPORATION
X15-53897
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:31 AM
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 12:24 AM -
That COA sticker is not a Refurbisher's one - it's an original one.
See here for details of a refurber's one... http://www.nused.com/page.php/pageKey=70
Here's MS's selection of stickers, including one like the one from above
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. Wednesday, April 23, 2014 9:43 AMModerator -
At last, I'm allowed to post links and images!
Here's a shot of the COA sticker and the actual DVD that came with it. I've cloned out the first half of the product key for security reasons - the second half is shown in the MGADiag report anyway.
NB. In the pic below the white surface of the DVD looks like a stuck-on paper label - it's not, it has a sheen (not visible here) and is part of the disc itself. The 'Windows'/'Genuine' hologram at the 7 o'clock position on the outer rim is almost visible in the pic, but not quite.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:50 AM
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:24 AM -
What is stated on the DVD disc says it all: Intended for distribution with a refurbished PC
You should have returned the item to the seller and demanded a full refund since he/she sold it improperly.
However, it appears the product key (license) is genuine and you should not have any issues with validation. Please note that this license cannot be transferred to a different PC in the future. And you can upgrade to Windows 8 Pro with no problem.
Good luck!
Carey Frisch
- Edited by Carey FrischMVP, Moderator Wednesday, April 23, 2014 8:14 PM edit
- Proposed as answer by Carey FrischMVP, Moderator Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:47 AM
- Marked as answer by Noel D PatonModerator Friday, May 2, 2014 8:47 AM
Wednesday, April 23, 2014 7:25 PMModerator -
There is no mention of 'Refurbisher' on the COA sticker - but it's prominent on the disk.
The COA sticker appears to be normal for an OEM_COA_SLP, although I don't like the idea of a label that couldn't have been printed before late 2010 having a copyright data of 2005!
The motherboard is from June 2012 - just before Windows 8 was released to manufacturing - which may or may not mean anything.
You've certainly been a victim of misrepresentation, even if not outright counterfeiting.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. Wednesday, April 23, 2014 10:33 PMModerator -
Carey and Noel - thanks to both of you for the information.
Carey - I didn't return it to the seller because I didn't know he wasn't allowed to sell refurbisher discs. The 14-day return period had expired by the time I installed it on my PC.
Noel - after a quick search of google images, I can't find any Windows 7 COA stickers with copyright dates of 2010 or later. In fact they all seem to have Copyright 2005. Here's one stuck to a Dell link. Here's another on a school's OptiPlex 780 link. And lots more here link.
- Edited by Mr. Wormwood Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:22 PM
Thursday, April 24, 2014 12:14 PM -
Most of the ones I see are similar to my own - with no copyright date at all.
Theses ones are definitely counterfeit... (addresses munged with hxxp)
hxxp://coaandsoft.globalimporter.net/pod2/727/1225140/windows-7-pro-coa-label-sticker-license-key-card.htm
hxxp://www.ecplaza.net/trade-leads-seller/windows-coa-sticker-win7-winxp--8113148.html
hxxp://www.officeoemsoftware.com/china-windows_7_pro_good_quality_coa_stickers_with_activation_product_key_stickers_16-761617.html
hxxp://www.ecplaza.net/trade-leads-seller/windows-coa-sticker-win7-winxp--8113148.html
It's not legal to sell such licenses AT ALL.
Noel Paton | Nil Carborundum Illegitemi CrashFixPC | The Three-toed Sloth No - I do not work for Microsoft, or any of its contractors. Thursday, April 24, 2014 2:01 PMModerator