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Too much messed up HTML. Where's the problem? RRS feed

  • Question

  • Posting Client:   WLMail Beta.
    Message tab toolbar shows button labeled   Rich Text (HTML)   which means that I am writing this in Plain Text mode.
    So far I have written two sentences in two lines which may show up as paragraphs or as DIVs on the forum.    (So that's another sentence and this is now making that paragraph go onto two lines.)

    I hit Enter twice.   So I now see a space between the last line of the first batch of writing and this new paragraph.   What is really infuriating is how often something is removing the two blank lines that I like to leave between my last paragraph and my "signature".
     QED

    R.A.
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    Oops.  Forgot to start  TCP Trace tool.

    Also want to test if toggling between  Rich Text (HTML) mode and Plain Text mode really makes any difference.   I have been doing that too, trying to find a way to check what is going to happen to my composition.    This is the first time I have tried to analyse what happens on each step in the path and for each possible mode and composition technique.    Sending...

    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:23 AM

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  • "Robert Aldwinckle on forums"  wrote in message news:57a0ab79-c3bb-49a5-9b01-4b57995164b4@communitybridge.codeplex.com...

    Posting Client:   WLMail Beta.
    Message tab toolbar shows button labeled   Rich Text (HTML)   which means that I am writing this in Plain Text mode.
    So far I have written two sentences in two lines which may show up as paragraphs or as DIVs on the forum.    (So that's another sentence and this is now making that paragraph go onto two lines.)

    I hit Enter twice.   So I now see a space between the last line of the first batch of writing and this new paragraph.   What is really infuriating is how often something is removing the two blank lines that I like to leave between my last paragraph and my "signature".
    QED

    R.A.
    ---  IT's the bridge doing it!   (Not  WLMail beta.)

    <p>I hit Enter twice.&nbsp;&nbsp; So I now see a space between the last line of the first batch of writing and this new paragraph.&nbsp;&nbsp; What is really infuriating is how often something is removing the two blank lines that I like to leave between my
    last paragraph and my &quot;signature&quot;.<br/>
    &nbsp;QED</p>
    <p>R.A.<br/>
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     Why is it generating  <br/>&nbsp;    when I gave it two blank lines (and no spaces at all)?   (Sometimes in desperation I have tried to insert spaces with each blank line but just as often forget to try that.)

    What can I do to try to make it generate appropriate HTML to generate the desired blank lines?   Why does it do it sometimes?   E.g.  I expect the first line of my addition will be appropriately spaced.    Let's test that. At the same time I will see if adding a space with each extra line in my "signature" has any significant effect.    So, 1 Enter will End this, 1 will leave a single space between this paragraph and the first line of my signature and a third Enter will leave the desired double space after my last paragraph.   I will try to put spaces on every Enter in that set...
     Testing

    R.A.
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    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 4:56 AM
  • That was much worse than I thought.   This sentence will end this paragraph
    which will be separated from the next by two Enters, one to finish it and
    one to leave one extra line.
     
    I noticed that I had checked   Use plain/text converter   but don't really
    know what that does so I have now unchecked it.   However, I don't know if
    that change will take effect immediately or require that I recycle the
    bridge.   Here's another paragraph ending which will be followed by my
    "signature" again.
     Testing
     
    R.A.
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    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:06 AM
  • > bridge.   Here's another paragraph ending which will be followed by my
    > "signature" again.
    >  Testing
     Same damn problem?   This is being done after recycling the bridge.   Notice
    the double space separating the quoted material and the double space
    separating my "signature".
     Testing
     
    R.A.
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    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:13 AM
  • Why is  &nbsp;  being used instead of  <br/> (or <p/>)?   Makes no sense.
    I don't understand why <div> is being used either.
     
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    57a0ab79-c3bb-49a5-9b01-4b57995164b4, ThreadId:
    88ef4eb4-a59d-407a-aa50-1821b51f2f32, Content: <div>&gt; bridge.&nbsp;&nbsp;
    Here's another paragraph ending which will be followed by my</div>
    <div>&gt; &quot;signature&quot; again.</div>
    <div>&gt;&nbsp; Testing</div>
    <div>&nbsp;Same damn problem?&nbsp;&nbsp; This is being done after recycling
    the bridge.&nbsp;&nbsp; Notice </div>
    <div>the double space separating the quoted material and the double space
    </div>
    <div>separating my &quot;signature&quot;.</div>
    <div>&nbsp;Testing</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>R.A.</div>
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    <div>&nbsp;</div>
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
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    Clear conclusion from this is:   to avoid  Plain Text  mode with the bridge
    like the plague!    (Notice that I didn't double space this although I
    normally would for clarity.    Don't get much clarity if your double spacing
    gets converted into hard blanks!)
     
    I wonder what it does it I triple or quadruple space?   4 hard blanks?
    Bizarre!
     
    Testing
     
    R.A.
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    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:23 AM
  •  
    > I wonder what it does it I triple or quadruple space?   4 hard blanks?
     
    No!
     
    <div>&nbsp;</div>
     
    which actually looks like what I am trying to do.
     
    Ok.   So we have a workaround.    Remember to always enter 4 Enters when you
    really want 2 blank lines.    But Wlmail isn't very clear about how many
    Enters I have used when I'm editing and inserting blank lines.   For
    example, I have reused some of the quoted material for my signature.   How
    many blank lines are there now?    What if I accidentally cause 5 CR's to be
    generated in that case?
     
    > Bizarre!
     
    Indeed.
     
    Testing
     
    R.A.
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    Tuesday, July 27, 2010 5:38 AM