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  • I copied my Quicken .qdf file to a WHS /user/ share. was able to access it from a client computer running Quicken 2005 Deluxe, make/edit entries, and log out. thought everything was good, but the next time I opened the file in Quicken it was corrupted. It had my account totals, etc. but all register entries were blank! tried accessing from multiple computers, and finally copying the file from the WHS share to a local computer and trying to open from there -- no luck.

     

    I've read another thread or two that other file types are becoming corrupted also -- including MS Money files. anyone else getting corrupted files when written to a WHS share? If so, which file types?

    Sunday, May 13, 2007 7:56 PM

Answers

  • I tried this too initially with WHS and found the same result: corruption of the quicken data.

    I went to the Quicken support forums and did a search on running from a network drive and found that it is not supported in any version of Quicken with the exception of QuickBooks.  Some people say they have it working, others report corruption like us.

    Me? I gave up on it for the time being resigning to remoting into my main desktop and running Quicken there when on another PC.  I had planned on trying SyncToy to keep the files updated on each PC via a WHS share, but I haven't had time to give it a shot yet.
    Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:34 AM
  • Quicken DOES NOT support having its files stored on any server.  This has been documented on the Intuit forums for years.

     

    You can use the Home Computer backup technologies to backup your Quicken files stored on your home computer to your home server.

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:24 PM

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  • Hi, yes, I have the same problem with a package call MYOB (Mind Your Own Business), similar to Quicken.  I have to right click on the file and select to restore previous snapshot.  I have not found any solution to this.
    Monday, May 14, 2007 9:38 AM
  • I tried this too initially with WHS and found the same result: corruption of the quicken data.

    I went to the Quicken support forums and did a search on running from a network drive and found that it is not supported in any version of Quicken with the exception of QuickBooks.  Some people say they have it working, others report corruption like us.

    Me? I gave up on it for the time being resigning to remoting into my main desktop and running Quicken there when on another PC.  I had planned on trying SyncToy to keep the files updated on each PC via a WHS share, but I haven't had time to give it a shot yet.
    Wednesday, May 16, 2007 5:34 AM
  •  Pool Shark wrote:
    I tried this too initially with WHS and found the same result: corruption of the quicken data.

    I went to the Quicken support forums and did a search on running from a network drive and found that it is not supported in any version of Quicken with the exception of QuickBooks.  Some people say they have it working, others report corruption like us.

    Me? I gave up on it for the time being resigning to remoting into my main desktop and running Quicken there when on another PC.  I had planned on trying SyncToy to keep the files updated on each PC via a WHS share, but I haven't had time to give it a shot yet.

     

    You might have a problem here one way or another. when you store a backup or a copy of a quicken file on WHS you will probably not have a problem as it's nothing more than a file transfer with some rudimentry error checking in the process. but in the case of the quicken program doing read and write operations on the file or "appending" to the file without actually replacing it you may run into problems the same way you do with Outlook .PST files. Unless you have a version of quicken that supports network storage I would see this as a limitation of Quicken and not WHS.

     

    What you you should be able to do though is choose a network location as backup file target and set it to auto backup when you quit Quicken.

     

    WHS is a great thing to have but remember WHS is already backing up this file every night so you dont need to store the working copy of the file there. next, if an application has to get it's Data from a network location it will be much slower than if the file was local. (especially at 3 PM when my kids get home  from school and jump on the internet at the same time and start playing games).

     

    another 2 Cent's..

     

    Rex Geissinger

     

     

    Friday, May 18, 2007 2:45 AM
  • I haven't tried MS Money with the data file on a WHS share, but will give it a go.

     

    I currently use MS Money with the data file residing on a Linux server and accessing via an SMB share - so technically WHS shouldn't be any different, unless MS Money has problems with the tombstones that DE Migrator creates.

     

    Will let you know how I get on after the weekend when I've given it a go.

    Friday, May 18, 2007 10:06 AM
  • Quicken does NOT support network access. This is a known limitation of Quicken, one of the things that I don't like about it. Hopefully they will enable this feature someday, but for now if you want to use the same data files from multiple computers you have to do a replication process. Copy the data file from the share, start and use Quicken, then copy the data file back to the share. Very kludgey.
    Friday, May 18, 2007 3:47 PM
  • Recently, I got finished moving all my files (including quicken) from my *nix fileserver to WHS.  I've accessed my quicken files across the network for years and never had a problem w/corruption.  But, shortly after moving to WHS, my quicken file became corrupted. So, I concluded accessing quicken files via network is fine and that something goofy/buggy is going on w/WHS.  At this point, I'm concerned about keeping any data on WHS and am considering migrating off it completely. 
    Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:31 PM
  • *Cross posted in Microsoft Money thread*

    Well, I found a way that works for me and will for you too as long as you are willing to put up with the extra steps...

    1. Install Synctoy on each PC that you run Quicken on.

    2. Set up a share on your WHS where you wish to keep all of your Quicken data (e.g. \\Server\Quicken).

    3. Create a folder pair in Synctoy on each PC with the name "Quicken".  Choose the local folder where all of your data is located (e.g. C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Documents\Quicken) and the server share (\\Server\Quicken) and set them to Synchronize.

    4. In \\Server\Quicken, create 2 batch files named Quicken.bat and QuickenSync.bat

    Copy this into Quicken.bat and save: (Verify your path to qw.exe)

     

    call "\\server\quicken\quickensync.bat"
    "C:\Program Files\Quicken\qw.exe"
    call "\\server\quicken\quickensync.bat"

     

    Copy this into QuickenSync.bat and save: (Verify your path to Synctoy.exe)

     

    "C:\Program Files\SyncToy\synctoy.exe" -r "Quicken"

     

    5. Change your Quicken shortcut on each PC to point to \\Server\Quicken\Quicken.bat

     

    Now when you use the shortcut, Synctoy will start up and sync your local directory with the server share, start Quicken, and then sync again when you close out.  Just be sure not to have Quicken open on more than one PC at a time as the sync upon closing may overwrite data.

     

     

     

    Saturday, August 11, 2007 6:20 AM
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    I too have this same problem.  It happens to both my Quicken 2007 and Quickbooks 2007 Pro software.  All other software is fine. 

     

    I've checked the files with the STREAMS utility as per http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943393/en-us and it doesn't have any. 

     

    Quicken may not support networks but Quickbooks definately does.  Strange that Intuit products get corrupt. 

     

    Dave

     

     

    Sunday, November 4, 2007 3:47 AM
  • David, I believe for server use, you have to install Quickbooks Pro on the server, using the server installation option. That sets it up to permit multi-user access (though you can't run Quickbooks from the server in that case). You would have to check with Intuit to determine if simply storing your data files on a server for multi-user access, then accessing them from one or more client PCs, is supported. (Probably not, though, since there's a server installation option...)
    Sunday, November 4, 2007 2:04 PM
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  • I have been storing my back up on a WHS share and I am having no problem with it. I have been doing this all during the beta and have restored a couple of times and the file is ok.

     

    Sunday, November 4, 2007 11:16 PM
  • I just saw this recently released KB article from MS regarding this problem:

    support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/946676/en-us?spid=12624

    Wednesday, December 26, 2007 10:10 PM
  • I want the main Quicken QDF file stored on my main machine----I simply want a backup on the

    WHS....

     

    And use the backup feature in quicken to pick the drive to send it to----in this case a share folder on the WHS.

     

    I don't want to have the "working" QDF" stored on the WHS....the file that Quicken automatically opens upon launch.....

     

    Any problems with that???

     

    If i have to retrieve the backup----will it be OK???

    Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:24 PM
  • John, you can try it. I suspect that most of the programs listed in the KB article are there because of how they manage file access, so just storing a backup of the file on your server should be relatively safe. After all, you're not going to open the backup from the server, you'll copy it locally first if you need to use it.

    But you should test to make sure that it is safe before you rely on that.
    Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:11 AM
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  • For those keeping score, I had the same problem.  it not only didn't work to locally open the quickbooks file being stored on the server, but it then corrupted it so it wouldn't work when copied locally.  my recommendation is to only store backups on the server but keep the primary file on the local machine.

     

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:27 AM
  • Will do....

     

    I am fairly paranoid about my financial data (not that I have a lot of money to worry about).....

     

    So I always have my main file....

     

    Quicken automatically makes a backup

    Then I back up to a CD-RW

    Then I use the Quicken Online Backup for an off site storage place....

     

    WHS will just give me one more redundancy of a saved file.....

     

    Paranoid??----yes....

     

    I have spent WAY too many hours plugging in data----setting up accounts, stocks, mutual funds, loans, auto payments, etc. etc......

     

    I finally know where all my money goes each month.....important when you've been a public servant your whole life and are sending two boys to college......

     

    My WHS comes in Friday (or Monday)----as my boys say:----- "I'm Stoked!"

     

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 2:45 AM
  • I have been using quicken on a shared SME server for about 5 months now with no problems.  My wife uses the laptop and I use the desktop.  We have never had a problem with it but have never accessed the data at the same time either.  I like the features of the WHS better which is the reason I am switching over.  What makes the WHS any different than any other network drive?

     

    The data on the SME server is accessed directly from windows explorer and the drive is mapped.  We also moved the My Documents from both our XP computers to the network drive.  Has anyone done this with WHS?

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 3:54 AM
  • Although WHS is based on Server 2003, it replaces/modifies certain aspects of it, mainly the file storage system. If you intend using WHS in a similar manner as you used your SME server, I would take note of this KB which was recently released regarding data loss/corruption. From their blog, they're taking it very seriously, as they said they would be working through the holidays trying to provide a 'fix'.

    Until such time as this is completed, I would be very wary of keeping your only copy any information on the server. At least keep it on a client as well, where it will be backed up each night. (There has never been a data corruption issue with the backups.)

    Regarding your query of folders, then I would think the majority of people on here have either mapped their drives, or re-directed their Documents folders, it's one of the main reasons of getting the server for a lot of people.

     

    Colin

     

     

    Thursday, December 27, 2007 6:18 PM
  • Any updates on the fix for this issue?
    Thursday, July 3, 2008 2:38 PM
  • Quicken DOES NOT support having its files stored on any server.  This has been documented on the Intuit forums for years.

     

    You can use the Home Computer backup technologies to backup your Quicken files stored on your home computer to your home server.

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 3:24 PM
  • Here is a draft of a KB article that we are working to get published:

     

    Here is a draft of a KB Article that the Windows Home Server team is having published:

     

    Outlook Personal Folder Files (.pst) should not be stored on Windows Home Server

     

    Summary:

    Microsoft Outlook personal folder files (.pst) and Quicken files are unsupported over a home network using Windows Home Server.   Additionally, other PC applications may not be designed to work with a home server over a home network.  If you have any questions about whether a specific application will work where the files are stored on Windows Home Server, then you should check with the application vendor prior to loading the files on your home server and accessing them from a home computer.

     

    More Information:

    As stated in KB297019 the Microsoft Exchange Server team created Microsoft Outlook personal files (.pst files) with the intent of letting a person maintain a copy of their messages on their local computer.  Microsoft Outlook .pst files also serve the purpose of a message store for users who do not have access to a Microsoft Exchange Server, for example, you can use Microsoft Outlook as a front-end to an internet hosted mail service.   Users should continue to store their Microsoft Outlook .pst files on their home computers and use the Windows Home Server home computer backup solution to create a backup copy of these files.

     Intuit Quicken files are solely intended to be stored and accessed using a single home computer.  Using Intuit Quicken in a home network is not supported or recommended. Users attempting to store, access and modify Intuit Quicken databases stored on a home server risk easily reproducible loss of data and corruption of the Quicken database.

    Additionally, other PC applications may not be designed to work with a home server over a home network.  If you have any questions about whether a specific application will work where the files are stored on Windows Home Server, then you should check with the application vendor prior to loading the files on your home server and accessing them from a home computer.

     

    Recommendations:

     The Remote Access feature provided by Windows Home Server allows access to a home computer via the internet as well as on your home network. Utilize Remote Desktop on your home network or Remote Access from the internet to access the home computer that has Microsoft Outlook, Intuit Quicken or other PC-centric  applications installed to ensure you are using the software within the supported configuration.

     

    Thursday, July 3, 2008 9:53 PM
  • Nice work around Pool Shark!
    Wednesday, February 3, 2010 10:58 PM