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  • I have been reading a lot about website rankings and I kind of get the impression that backlinks are more important than website content. Within the amount of posts I read that were moderated, a majority of the replies were related to quality backlinking even though the sites themselves contained quality content.  Why is there so much emphasis on quality backlinks as oppsed to the content within the site?  For example, our site www.asketchintime.com is a pencil sketch and drawing site with galleries and areas to purchase drawings and prints.  Although we have links to art supply dealers, why would someone looking for supplies go to our site if they were looking for art supplies, hence most likely them being an artist, and the same could be said for art galleries and art retailers?  I can understand us linking to our art suppliers so that our customers can see the quality supplies we use, however, why would someone use our backlinks to get to us using the stated example?  So again, why are backlinks more important than the content of the individual sites themselves?  Why can't each website rank be based off its own merit instead of shirttailing off of others?

     

    Thanks,

    A Sketch In Time | Capture time with A Sketch In Time

    Sunday, March 9, 2008 6:41 PM

Answers

  • Uze DaFarce,

     

    Thank you so very much, that is the most candid and straight forward answer that I have received to date and I actually understood what you said.  Open directory would be awesome to have if it was a perfect world but it isn't (sniffle).  I think that among the majority of you that frequent these forums and have at least decent advice to give to others, you guys/girls could put that vast intellect together for the greater good of all webmasters.  I believe that it is possible with you folks in the lead to come up with a better measuring stick as to how we are all ranked and searched fairly.  I know that this would be asking a lot of you guys because you all are probably busy with your own issues but we need change and not just for the sake of change.

     

    Thanks again

    A Sketch In Time | Capture time with A Sketch In Time

    Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:25 AM
  • In the SE world, backlinks are king and in my opinion (not Microsoft's per se), one of the two most weighted data points  when determining relevancy which is why people spend a fair chunk of time and money producing quality backlinks (the other being traffic). Backinks also give an indication of reach--or sphere of influence in your market. All that being said, your site has been listed as an adult site due to your Studio B section which isn't helping you under some search conditions. You may want to use our private Feedback form to request a review. We’ll do our best to research and resolve your issue in a timely manner.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Brett

    Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:39 PM

All replies

  • In an ideal world sites would be evaluated based off of the relevant value of the content they contain.  For many years now there has been a movement of folks who have a solution; the project is called open directory, and involves having actual trusted human beings making decisions about the value of a website.  Some issues with the open directory project:

    1. There are billions of pages out there, tons being added every day
    2. There isn't a viable profit model for it, with the amount of human resources required.  So it's handled by volunteers, folks who are working for nothing more than the benefit of others.
    3. The time it takes for a human to determine the relevance of a site is vastly greater than the time it takes a computer program to determine it, and a computer can check a lot more data points in that time.  As it is now, we often wait 30+ days for Google, Yahoo, or MSN to spider our sites, mostly due to the massive amount of content, much of it changing on a daily basis.

     

    Programmatically determining relevancy correctly, is not an easy task.  Add in thousands of folks spending hours on end trying to think up ways to exploit the system for their own gain, and it gets even more daunting. 

     

    Backlinks are essentially references.  References are a concept that has been around a long time, and used in many other areas of life to determine the trustworthiness of an individual.  When determining trustworthiness of an individual, the amount of initial trust awarded is often based on the trustworthiness of the person vouching for the unverified person.  Is it a perfect solution to match this system to determining relevancy for web sites?  No.  But, it does seem, at least to me, to be a reasonable sustainable source of programmatically verifiable data on which to make a decision regarding relevancy.  It's only a single data point, perhaps it's weighted the most, but there are many other factors that contribute.  It's tough for folks to exploit, easy for a computer to verify. 

     

    I agree with the spirit of your post, but I can't make an argument for a better viable solution.  If someone could come up with a much more foolproof method of verifying relevancy, which could not be easily exploited by others, I can assure you that search engines would do everything in their power to implement it.  There is very little they care more about than "true" relevancy, because increasing relevancy directly increases both profit and market share.

     

    Sunday, March 9, 2008 9:32 PM
  • I can think of a few example backlinks which seem like they might be valid in your case:

    1. Art review sites.
    2. A site which caters to oil, watercolor, photograpic art, etc.  (an art site, that doesn't sell, at least primarily, sketches)  Someone who wants to buy art, might not want to limit themselves to a specific method.  It seems logical that if someone who was interested buying a watercolor, might also be interested in purchasing sketches, and vice versa.  A link exchange here seems like it could be equitible to both parties, since, for example, the watercolor site doesn't sell sketches, and the sketch site doesn't sell watercolors.
    3. Sites which cater to themes reflected in your art; who's customers might be especially interested in purchasing your art, for example:
      • Metallica fan sites
      • Patriotic sites
    4. Sites which sell frames, furnishings, or other items who's customers might also be interested in purchasing art.

     

     

    Sunday, March 9, 2008 10:00 PM
  • Uze DaFarce,

     

    Thank you so very much, that is the most candid and straight forward answer that I have received to date and I actually understood what you said.  Open directory would be awesome to have if it was a perfect world but it isn't (sniffle).  I think that among the majority of you that frequent these forums and have at least decent advice to give to others, you guys/girls could put that vast intellect together for the greater good of all webmasters.  I believe that it is possible with you folks in the lead to come up with a better measuring stick as to how we are all ranked and searched fairly.  I know that this would be asking a lot of you guys because you all are probably busy with your own issues but we need change and not just for the sake of change.

     

    Thanks again

    A Sketch In Time | Capture time with A Sketch In Time

    Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:25 AM
  • In the SE world, backlinks are king and in my opinion (not Microsoft's per se), one of the two most weighted data points  when determining relevancy which is why people spend a fair chunk of time and money producing quality backlinks (the other being traffic). Backinks also give an indication of reach--or sphere of influence in your market. All that being said, your site has been listed as an adult site due to your Studio B section which isn't helping you under some search conditions. You may want to use our private Feedback form to request a review. We’ll do our best to research and resolve your issue in a timely manner.

     

    Thanks,

     

    Brett

    Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:39 PM
  • Brett,

     

    Thanks for your reply and what you have said gives me a little more understanding as to the relevance of backlinking.  I however think you may have missed my point.  I believe that I received my answer from Uze DaFarce (posted earlier) and even though I didn’t like the answers given, I at least understand it better.  Just so you know, I am new to the world of web mastering (since Feb 15 2008) and came upon a forum/blog (?) with a lot of do's and don'ts with regard to SEO.  Backlinking seemed to rule the day but again me being new to this stuff I just felt that I needed to ask some questions.  Now from what I have read up to that point, the whole argument for the importance of backlinks gave it more relevance than a website’s content.  I was not making any claims as to my website in comparison to any other; I just wanted to find out why there were some websites that were ranked high (within the three major SE’s) but not very relevant as far as keywords that were searched and/or the websites were hard to navigate and/or the lack of decent content etc.  I then found a tool online to check backlinks and tested a few of these questioned websites just to find that they weren't exactly backlinks poor meaning and in my opinion, they bought their rankings.  Just because you have a lot of so called quality backlinks and considering how subjective this mindset is in the first place, doesn’t make your site worth a darn with regard to what someone might be searching for.  Pure greed has consumed the World Wide Web in practically all facets and it is those of us that don’t have the money to throw at the problems that are the ones who suffer.  We could talk, argue or just have an all out war over this topic from what I have seen but the bottom line is, I don’t make the rules, I just have to live by them but for me to live by them means I have to understand them.  Again Brett, I do appreciate you taking the time to explain a few things to me.

     

    A Sketch In Time
    Monday, May 5, 2008 5:34 AM