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  •   Hi,

    I'm A system builder and had someone bring in a dell for repairs, after a format i tried to re-install Media Centre, at first i tried my regular OEM media centre disks and the serial key wouldn't work on install, I then managed to obtain a copy of Media Centre for Dell (apparently - no way of actually confirming this) and the installation did not require me to enter a cd key, my thinking that i can change the key to the genuine one when i activate it, low and behold - it doesn't need activation and as you can see below the validation status is "Genuine" when i know it's not and all i need to do is chnage the product to the stuck to the box. 
        There is no indication that this software is not genuine when i know it's not and  i do not want to return it to the customer if it will have issues with validation in a couple months...any help would be appreciated. The last resort is to get the customer to order a set of recovery CD's from Dell.
        And just to make myself feel better....why do microsoft have different licencing systems for different products. Surely the basic elements of the licence do not change across the different flavours, wouldn't it be simple enough to have a "standard" and apply it across the board - or will that make Microsoft products too simple? Seems to be working for Apple....

    Diagnostic Report (1.7.0095.0):
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    WGA Data-->
    Validation Status: Genuine
    Validation Code: 0
    Online Validation Code: N/A
    Cached Validation Code: N/A
    Windows Product Key: *****-*****-RVF66-GP7VM-8CFT3
    Windows Product Key Hash: tJB30tZY737ZFJYewUg2SpzsCb0=
    Windows Product ID: 76487-OEM-2211906-00825
    Windows Product ID Type: 2
    Windows License Type: OEM SLP
    Windows OS version: 5.1.2600.2.00010100.3.0.med
    CSVLK Server: N/A
    CSVLK PID: N/A
    ID: {D93F35B2-402A-4CA8-920A-5D93EE237904}(3)
    Is Admin: Yes
    TestCab: 0x0
    WGA Version: Registered, 1.7.69.2
    Signed By: Microsoft
    Product Name: N/A
    Architecture: N/A
    Build lab: N/A
    TTS Error: N/A
    Validation Diagnostic: 025D1FF3-171-1
    Resolution Status: N/A

    WgaER Data-->
    ThreatID(s): N/A
    Version: N/A

    WGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    File Exists: No
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaTray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WgaLogon.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Notifications Data-->
    Cached Result: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Version: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    WGATray.exe Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    OGAAddin.dll Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002

    OGA Data-->
    Office Status: 109 N/A
    OGA Version: N/A, 0x80070002
    Signed By: N/A, hr = 0x80070002
    Office Diagnostics: B4D0AA8B-543-80070002_025D1FF3-171-1

    Browser Data-->
    Proxy settings: N/A
    User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Win32)
    Default Browser: C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
    Download signed ActiveX controls: Prompt
    Download unsigned ActiveX controls: Disabled
    Run ActiveX controls and plug-ins: Allowed
    Initialize and script ActiveX controls not marked as safe: Disabled
    Allow scripting of Internet Explorer Webbrowser control: Disabled
    Active scripting: Allowed
    Script ActiveX controls marked as safe for scripting: Allowed

    File Scan Data-->

    Other data-->
    Office Details: <GenuineResults><MachineData><UGUID>{D93F35B2-402A-4CA8-920A-5D93EE237904}</UGUID><Version>1.7.0095.0</Version><OS>5.1.2600.2.00010100.3.0.med</OS><Architecture>x32</Architecture><PKey>*****-*****-*****-*****-8CFT3</PKey><PID>76487-OEM-2211906-00825</PID><PIDType>2</PIDType><SID>S-1-5-21-1085031214-746137067-682003330</SID><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.                </Manufacturer><Model>Dell DM061                   </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.                </Manufacturer><Version>2.1.2 </Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="3"/><Date>20061201000000.000000+000</Date><SLPBIOS>Dell System,Dell Computer,Dell System,Dell System</SLPBIOS></BIOS><HWID>88BF31BF0184606C</HWID><UserLCID>0C09</UserLCID><SystemLCID>0409</SystemLCID><TimeZone>AUS Eastern Standard Time(GMT+10:00)</TimeZone><iJoin>0</iJoin><SBID><stat>3</stat><msppid></msppid><name></name><model></model></SBID><OEM/><BRT/></MachineData><Software><Office><Result>109</Result><Products/><Applications/></Office></Software></GenuineResults>

    • Split by Stephen Holm Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:11 PM Please post in separate thread
    Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:21 AM

Answers

  • Dear Darkfear,

    In regards to Windows Software Licensing, the license was obtained through a major manufacturer that uses SLP technology (Reference Line 10 of Diag Report - "Windows License Type: OEM SLP"), which sets the recovery or repair CD to look for certain bits in the BIOS of the official manufacturer's motherboards.  If such bits are not found, as they would not be if you replaced the defective board with one not from the original computer manufacturer, then the CD will refuse to install XP. The diag results submitted indicate a Genuine status.

    For additional information regarding Windows Genuine Advantage, please visit: http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx .

    Thank you,

    Rick, MS

    • Marked as answer by RickImAPC Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:54 PM
    Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:54 PM

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  • Dear Darkfear,

    In regards to Windows Software Licensing, the license was obtained through a major manufacturer that uses SLP technology (Reference Line 10 of Diag Report - "Windows License Type: OEM SLP"), which sets the recovery or repair CD to look for certain bits in the BIOS of the official manufacturer's motherboards.  If such bits are not found, as they would not be if you replaced the defective board with one not from the original computer manufacturer, then the CD will refuse to install XP. The diag results submitted indicate a Genuine status.

    For additional information regarding Windows Genuine Advantage, please visit: http://www.microsoft.com/genuine/downloads/FAQ.aspx .

    Thank you,

    Rick, MS

    • Marked as answer by RickImAPC Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:54 PM
    Thursday, August 21, 2008 4:54 PM
  • Darkfear,

    The copy of the Dell OS Reinstalaltion CDs for Media Center Edition that you acquired seems to be a correct copy.

    If you search the entire Genuine Advantage forum for the partial product key shown in the mgadiag report, RVF66-GP7VM-8CFT3, you will see that all hits show this key to belong to media center edition installations on Dells (look in the big paragraph at the end of the report for this or similar:

    ><SYSTEM><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.                </Manufacturer><Model>Dell DXP051                  </Model></SYSTEM><BIOS><Manufacturer>Dell Inc.                </Manufacturer><Version>A07</Version><SMBIOSVersion major="2" minor="3"/><Date>20070108000000.000000+000</Date><SLPBIOS>Dell System,Dell Computer,Dell System,Dell System</SLPBIOS></BIOS><HWID>DC6B3B6701846077</HWID>

    Major manufacturers are issued special product keys for each different variety of Windows that they install, so that they won't have to activate them one ata time, which would be a clumsy task since they are building tens of thousands of computers a day.

    As a systembuilder and local small businessperson, it is unwise for you to use "acquired copies" of manufacturer installation CDs from whatever souce.  There's no telling if the copied CD somehow got viruses, rootkits or malware embedded, and how bad would it look for you to have infected a customer computer?  Please, ALWAYS use genuine hologrammed Microsoft CDs or the actual genuine manufacturer-provided reinstallation/recovery CD.
    For great advice on all topics XP, visit http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp
    Friday, August 22, 2008 3:21 PM