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Forum entrance pages much harder to read now RRS feed

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  • You removed all the lines and boxes from the forum entrance pages.

    Those lines+boxes separated all the different threads from eachother, and from the other fields.

    They were essential, at least, for my eyes to make sense of it.


    Maybe for your eyes, it looks better this way?

    I can't imagine how.

    But I guess likewise you can't imagine how difficult it is for me to view now.


    Oh well.


    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:21 AM

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  • I just filed a bug in our system to track this. Thanks for reporting it.

    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:17 AM
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    Thanks.  I was describing TechNet.  They look different from MSDN and Microsoft brands.  (Thanks Susan Bradley for the tip).

    The images above are partial-screenshots from each, respectively.  Click for full size.
    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:52 AM
  • I think the design has been modified to look pretty, without regard to readability. I'd rather an ugly page that is easy to read.


    Richard Mueller - MVP Directory Services

    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 6:01 PM
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  • Of the three, MSDN is the best.
     
     
    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:38 PM
  • Mind you I say that but even MSDN takes more real estate size than
    Microsoft.
     
    Bottom line can you go back and get more testers for that Metro style
    that are perhaps older, less hip people?  Actual people that use the
    forums, too?  I think you need more feedback than what you got.
     
    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 7:40 PM
  • My heartfelt congrats to that post, Susan. Another request from the "less hip people" would be, as I see it, the reduction of the "innovation cycles" that we are lately coaxed into. A 3-year life cycle for Windows - ok if it serves to feed new markets (tablets and all), keeps Windows a cash cow etc. (Until now, my Windows 8 experience is shared between extremely helpful innovations "under the hood" and serious doubts about the new "Metro style" UI.) But perpetual changes in the forums' software, display, recognition systems and all similar things may be a (welcome?) kind of "brain jogging" for us older ones; however, until now I don't see any advantages from the new "features". Couldn't those issues be approached by a little more patience, f.ex. 1 change a year (to satisfy the "more hip people")? I mean, every time I visit one of my favorite forums, the look-a-like has changed a bit from yesterday: What gives?

    Understanding Windows is like understanding women.

    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 9:56 PM
  • > Actual people that use the forums, too?

    +1


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Tuesday, February 14, 2012 10:44 PM





  • Honestly.  When I glance at these, nothing comes in.  I see nothing there to read.  It's just a meaningless splatter of alphanumerics on white.

    If it wasn't for the boxes I put around them, would you even recognize it as text?  Would you even attempt to read it?  Or would you just stare at it briefly.  Or away from it.

    The first (top) group is somewhat more legible.  But even there, try to read the paragraph under MSDN, TechNet and Expression... aloud.  See if you can, in any natural way.  You'll end up dictating it mechanically word-by-word without any comprehension of the content.  Nobody will ever bother trying to read that.  Ever.



    I apologize if I just seem critical without purpose, or if I'm being insensitive to someone's artistic efforts.  I do not mean to be rude or hurtful.  But I need to speak up and tell you, if this forum was difficult to read before, now it's impossible.  I'm not exaggerating.  It's just impossible for me to read it anymore when it's like this.
    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:33 AM
  • I'll add separately.

    Whatever the tiny difference in the intra-word letter spacing between TechNet and MSDN, it makes or breaks it entirely.  Compare this page side by side

    It's just so taxing to try to read it from TechNet.  Terrible.  Unfortunately, we can't switch to MSDN view in some TechNet pages.

    If this doesn't change, I'll just give up on TechNet.



    Edit:  Now I just rechecked to see something even different.  It's the inter-line spacing that's making the difference.  So subtle, yet so totally absolutely different.  Please get the intra-word, inter-word, and inter-line spacing consistent and legible.  "Please".
    Wednesday, February 15, 2012 8:13 AM