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MCC, Moderator and Answerer Roles RRS feed

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  • I'm curious to know what criteria is used to grant someone MCC, Moderator or Answerer Roles. 

    The reason I'm asking is because I see a number of people on these forums assigned to these roles however when I look into their statistics, they have contributed very little to these forums.  I would expect that people assigned these roles should have statistics up around 10,000+, not 1,645, 2,520, 2790 etc.


    Jeff Wharton
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    Friday, December 23, 2011 3:38 AM

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  • There is no direct correlation between number of posts / points and the statuses. The MCC status is assigned based on the various forums activities, not only based on MSDN forum (e.g. the person may be active elsewhere). In my opinion, you long deserved that status. BTW, I got it also about 8 months after the program went into existence...

    Moderators/Answerers are assigned by the forum's owners and MSFT people.

     


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    • Marked as answer by Mr. Wharty Friday, December 23, 2011 4:00 AM
    Friday, December 23, 2011 3:57 AM
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  • There is no direct correlation between number of posts / points and the statuses. The MCC status is assigned based on the various forums activities, not only based on MSDN forum (e.g. the person may be active elsewhere). In my opinion, you long deserved that status. BTW, I got it also about 8 months after the program went into existence...

    Moderators/Answerers are assigned by the forum's owners and MSFT people.

     


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    • Marked as answer by Mr. Wharty Friday, December 23, 2011 4:00 AM
    Friday, December 23, 2011 3:57 AM
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  • Hi Naomi,

    Not too worried about MCC as I now know a bit more about it (after doing some quick research lol).  I'm more concerned about Answerer/Moderator as these two are forum related.

    Cheers

    Jeff


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    Friday, December 23, 2011 4:00 AM
  • Well, I did propose your candidature in our private forum. Two other quite deserving folks were proposed as well at that time. I don't think anything came out of it, though. One of these folks no longer frequent in the forums, unfortunately.

    Also, one of the ideas proposed by Ed in WiKi page is to promote people active in the particular forum to the Moderator/Answerer status. 


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    Friday, December 23, 2011 4:06 AM
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  • Appreciate it Naomi.

    I know these things can take a while (I had to wait 18 months of MVP nominations before I final got it).

     


    Jeff Wharton
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    Friday, December 23, 2011 4:08 AM
  • I can never understand the MVP process as some people who really deserve it don’t get it and others that don't deserve it, get it. Given the amount I've seen you contribute to the community, I was surprised to find out that you weren't one. At least you’re a MCC now and hopefully that will hopefully make MVP :-)

    I lost my MVP after two years as I pulled out of the community due to personal reasons.


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    Friday, December 23, 2011 4:15 AM
  • BTW, take a look at this page  http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/feature-requests-for-technet-and-msdn-profiles-and-social-platform-tools.aspx and scroll down to the Profiles section. As I mentioned yesterday, the idea of granting rights based on the participation/answering level is requested there.
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    Friday, December 23, 2011 7:21 PM
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  • If the moderator is a moderator because they are a MVP for that product already?  As that may explain why they have moderator rights but may not have a lot of points.  When they opened up new forums for the very first time, a lot of ex-nntp/newsgroup people moved over to posting to forums for the first time.

    Also they may be a moderator for just 'their' product forum   If the forum they are in has low traffic, they could be the big poster for THAT forum, but not comparable to other more heavily traffic forums.

    Friday, December 23, 2011 11:25 PM
  • The other thing about the numbers is that they are built up over time.

    So 5,000 points for instance could well represent more posting in the previous year than someone who has say 30,000 as that person could have acquired most of those points much earlier.

    The MCC status is in any case (as Jeff mentioned) not something to actively be strived for as it offers virtually no benefits beyond getting MCC next to your name. I was sad to lose the MVP title but losing the MCC title a year later left me cold. (For the record in the year before I lost it (Later: By it I meant MCC but this actually also applied to MVP in spades) my points score went up by 5000! - proving (?) the lack of connection to points).

    [Nobody bothered to tell me btw, the letters next to my posting name just vanished.]

     

    A later thought: Perhaps of more relevance to this thread which is about MCC, Moderators and Answerers is that even though my MCC title went, my Moderator rights continued. Clearly they are handled by different groups with different goals.

     

     




    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Saturday, December 24, 2011 10:36 AM Later: added
    Saturday, December 24, 2011 7:15 AM
  • Whether 5000 was acquired last year, this year or over 2 years should not make any difference as I still consider that number of points not sufficient to become an answerer or moderator.  If it did make a difference, I'd say someone who acquired 5000 over 2yrs was not assisting as much as someone who acquired the same number of points over 1yr.

    [Nobody bothered to tell me btw, the letters next to my posting name just vanished.]

    That's nearly as bad as being told on Christmas Eve 2009 that I was not being renewed as a MVP.  Not the best Christmas present I've received during my lifetime!


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    Saturday, December 24, 2011 8:13 AM
  • By accident found this WiKi article on the same topic as this thread

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/wiki/contents/articles/how-to-become-an-msdn-or-technet-forum-moderator.aspx

     


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    Tuesday, December 27, 2011 3:57 AM
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  • last time I checked, being an MVP disqualifies a person from MCC. 

    The answers role is very old, I don't know if it is still assigned to users. It used to be assigned to active users so they can mark valuable answers if the OP does not mark in time. I can't remember how I got it (that's 5-6 years ago), but I think that was an automatic process as I never asked for it. Nowadays Microsoft hire contractors to do the answer-marking. Those contractors come and go so they may not accumulate a lot of points during their stay. I don't know any contractor get promoted to a full time employee even when someone did a good job, not sure why. Sad to see some of them no longer active on the forums.

    The moderator role is decided by the forum's owner I think, but sometimes the owner's team disbanded (e.g. Windows Forms) or is unable to evaluate contributions in other languages, so a site administrator can assign moderator permission too, sometimes for other needs. I am an active user of Chinese MSDN forums, and was assigned moderator permission by the site administrator due to my MVP status. I am also assigned moderator status in Chinese Technet forums by the site administrator due to frequent spamming at night, with little or no visible contribution to most of the Technet forum users. 



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    Thursday, December 29, 2011 5:29 PM
  • > last time I checked, being an MVP disqualifies a person from MCC.

    That would be logical and I thought so too, but last time this was mentioned in a thread it was pointed out that some people were posting with both MCC and MVP after their names.

    > I don't know any contractor get promoted to a full time employee even when someone did a good job

    Several years ago I got e-mail from a (contractor - Chinese) support person in the SharePoint forums saying that he would be joining Microsoft in Shanghai and would no longer be providing forum support. So it does happen.

     

     


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