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  • This morning my laptop is showing that windows is not activated any longer and it will not valiate.  I checked to see if I had any of the programs running that will not work with Vista Ultimate, and I have nonde of those listed.  Everything seems to work, but the pop up says that Windows Vista will not work correctly.  I have gone over the tech notes and cannot find the problem.  Based upon the number of complaints I see here, is this a Microsoft mistake via an update?

    Please help?

    Pilot53
    Tuesday, February 17, 2009 1:01 AM

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  • Hello Pilot53,

      No, the only times I have seen a windows update cause a non-genuine issue is if the update installs an updated file but fails to update Vista's System Catalog with the file's new Signature Hash. This would cause a file to be listed as Mismatched, in your Diagnostic Report under, under the "File Scan Data -->" line and we call that type of issue  an 'On Disk Mod-Auth'

      Your particular issue, as I will explain below, is called an 'In Memory Mod-Auth'. Similar names, but different causes.

     

    Vista is in, what we call a 'Mod-Auth' Tamper state.  There are 2 types of Mod-Auth tampers.

     

    1)     A critical system file was modified On Disk - What this means is that the file, located on the hard drive, was modified in some way. This can be caused by a malicious program (spyware, malware, virus) or by manual file modification (by a user of the system). There is also a very small chance that an Update may fail in mid-update and cause this type of issue. As a safety mechanism, Updates are made so that if they fail, they roll back any updating that was done before the failure, but there is an off-chance that the roll back didn't not occur.

     

    2)     A critical system file was modified In Memory - What this means is the file itself (on the hard drive) is un-modified, but the code, from that file, running in the system, was modified in some way and is caused by a running program that is incompatible with Vista. Note: Malware can also be incompatible with Vista and has ben known to cause this type of Mod-auth, as well.

     

      Because there is No Mismatched files listed under the "File Scan Data-->" line of your Diagnostic Report, we know that your issue is an In Memory Mod-Auth and therefore caused by an incompatible program. This means there is a program install and Running that is trying to access parts of the OS that Vista does not allow, which by definition, means it is incompatible with Vista.

      In addition to why a Mod-Auth occurs, it's also important to understand how Vista detects a Mod-Auth event. There is a Service that runs in Vista that detects a Tamper to a Critical System file. But this Service runs randomly, so if you were to install an incompatible program and run it, Vista (most likely) would not immediately enter a Mod-Auth  State and it could take some time for the Mod-Auth to be detected. The important point to note is that the moment Vista detects the Mod-Auth, you know that the program that is causing the Mod-Auth, is currently running.

     

       Below I have provided a number of steps to help you identify the program that is causing the tamper:
     
      First, go to
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931699/ and confirm that you do not have any of the programs known to cause this type of issue.
     
      Second, in your Diagnostic report above, you can see the line that starts with 'TTS Error:' followed by a bunch numbers: M:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- This is the Tamper Time Stamp and it breaks down like this:

     

        (year)  (month) (day) (time in 24format) (millisecond) 
    M:2009        02        16           1830                      26049-

     


    Now that you know the time of the tamper, you can now try to connect that time with a program.

    1)     Login to Vista and select the option that launches an Internet Browser

    2)     Type into the browser address bar: %windir%\system32\perfmon.msc and hit Enter

    3)     When asked if you want to Open or Save this file, select Open

    4)      In the left hand panel, click Reliability Monitor

    5)     Click on the “System Stability Chart” above the date 02/16

    6)     Below the chart, in the “System Stability Report” section look at the report titled "Software (Un)Installs for 02/16/2009"

    7)     Look for any program that shows "Application Install" in the 'Activity' column.

    8)     Since the process that detects Tampers runs randomly, it can take up to 3 days for the process to detect the tamper and set Vista to a Tamper State. Because of this, please repeat steps 5) thru 7) for the dates 02/15/2009, 02/14/2009 and 02/13/2009

      This could tell you what programs were installed on or around the Tamper date and should help you narrow down the possible programs that could be causing the issue. Unfortunately, if you installed the program at some time in the past, but didn’t run it till now, this process may not be helpful.  The removal of any application you may have installed recently could go a long way to troubleshooting this issues.

     

    Note: Since everyone has different programs installed on their computer, it is extremely hard for support to figure out what program is causing the problem, but if you still need assistance in identifying the Incompatible Program, please create a no cost support request at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52029

    Also Note: it has been found that Malware, such as Viruses and Trojans, can also be incompatible with Vista and can cause an In Memory Mod-Auth. A few users (that were experiencing an In Memory Mod-Auth) have confirmed that a Malware infection was the cause. If you follow the above steps and cannot find a program that is causing the Mod-Auth, you may want to investigate if a Virus or Trojan may be to blame. You can contact PC Safety, which is a Microsoft group, which provides free help with Malware infections.

    PC Safety:

    1-866-PCSafety or 1-866-727-2338

    http://www.microsoft.com/protect/support/default.mspx

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm


    Thank you,
    Darin MS

    Attention Forum All Users: Please Do Not post your issue in someone else's Thread...Create your own.
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM
    Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:56 PM

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  •  I now have the diagnostic report with it, and still, I cannot figure it out!

    Pilot

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    Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:36 AM
  • Hello Pilot53,

      No, the only times I have seen a windows update cause a non-genuine issue is if the update installs an updated file but fails to update Vista's System Catalog with the file's new Signature Hash. This would cause a file to be listed as Mismatched, in your Diagnostic Report under, under the "File Scan Data -->" line and we call that type of issue  an 'On Disk Mod-Auth'

      Your particular issue, as I will explain below, is called an 'In Memory Mod-Auth'. Similar names, but different causes.

     

    Vista is in, what we call a 'Mod-Auth' Tamper state.  There are 2 types of Mod-Auth tampers.

     

    1)     A critical system file was modified On Disk - What this means is that the file, located on the hard drive, was modified in some way. This can be caused by a malicious program (spyware, malware, virus) or by manual file modification (by a user of the system). There is also a very small chance that an Update may fail in mid-update and cause this type of issue. As a safety mechanism, Updates are made so that if they fail, they roll back any updating that was done before the failure, but there is an off-chance that the roll back didn't not occur.

     

    2)     A critical system file was modified In Memory - What this means is the file itself (on the hard drive) is un-modified, but the code, from that file, running in the system, was modified in some way and is caused by a running program that is incompatible with Vista. Note: Malware can also be incompatible with Vista and has ben known to cause this type of Mod-auth, as well.

     

      Because there is No Mismatched files listed under the "File Scan Data-->" line of your Diagnostic Report, we know that your issue is an In Memory Mod-Auth and therefore caused by an incompatible program. This means there is a program install and Running that is trying to access parts of the OS that Vista does not allow, which by definition, means it is incompatible with Vista.

      In addition to why a Mod-Auth occurs, it's also important to understand how Vista detects a Mod-Auth event. There is a Service that runs in Vista that detects a Tamper to a Critical System file. But this Service runs randomly, so if you were to install an incompatible program and run it, Vista (most likely) would not immediately enter a Mod-Auth  State and it could take some time for the Mod-Auth to be detected. The important point to note is that the moment Vista detects the Mod-Auth, you know that the program that is causing the Mod-Auth, is currently running.

     

       Below I have provided a number of steps to help you identify the program that is causing the tamper:
     
      First, go to
    http://support.microsoft.com/kb/931699/ and confirm that you do not have any of the programs known to cause this type of issue.
     
      Second, in your Diagnostic report above, you can see the line that starts with 'TTS Error:' followed by a bunch numbers: M:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- This is the Tamper Time Stamp and it breaks down like this:

     

        (year)  (month) (day) (time in 24format) (millisecond) 
    M:2009        02        16           1830                      26049-

     


    Now that you know the time of the tamper, you can now try to connect that time with a program.

    1)     Login to Vista and select the option that launches an Internet Browser

    2)     Type into the browser address bar: %windir%\system32\perfmon.msc and hit Enter

    3)     When asked if you want to Open or Save this file, select Open

    4)      In the left hand panel, click Reliability Monitor

    5)     Click on the “System Stability Chart” above the date 02/16

    6)     Below the chart, in the “System Stability Report” section look at the report titled "Software (Un)Installs for 02/16/2009"

    7)     Look for any program that shows "Application Install" in the 'Activity' column.

    8)     Since the process that detects Tampers runs randomly, it can take up to 3 days for the process to detect the tamper and set Vista to a Tamper State. Because of this, please repeat steps 5) thru 7) for the dates 02/15/2009, 02/14/2009 and 02/13/2009

      This could tell you what programs were installed on or around the Tamper date and should help you narrow down the possible programs that could be causing the issue. Unfortunately, if you installed the program at some time in the past, but didn’t run it till now, this process may not be helpful.  The removal of any application you may have installed recently could go a long way to troubleshooting this issues.

     

    Note: Since everyone has different programs installed on their computer, it is extremely hard for support to figure out what program is causing the problem, but if you still need assistance in identifying the Incompatible Program, please create a no cost support request at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=52029

    Also Note: it has been found that Malware, such as Viruses and Trojans, can also be incompatible with Vista and can cause an In Memory Mod-Auth. A few users (that were experiencing an In Memory Mod-Auth) have confirmed that a Malware infection was the cause. If you follow the above steps and cannot find a program that is causing the Mod-Auth, you may want to investigate if a Virus or Trojan may be to blame. You can contact PC Safety, which is a Microsoft group, which provides free help with Malware infections.

    PC Safety:

    1-866-PCSafety or 1-866-727-2338

    http://www.microsoft.com/protect/support/default.mspx

    http://onecare.live.com/site/en-us/center/whatsnew.htm


    Thank you,
    Darin MS

    Attention Forum All Users: Please Do Not post your issue in someone else's Thread...Create your own.
    • Marked as answer by Darin Smith MS Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:59 PM
    Tuesday, February 17, 2009 5:56 PM