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    Hey guys,

    I got my WHS VAIL running on a Belinea o.center without any problems.
    It´s quite fast and looking good so far.

    But I got a problem, where I'm stuck right now.

    I bought a sound card throgh amazon for the usage in Vail.
    My goal is to have an iTunes server running on Vail to use Apple AirPlay to the remote speakers all over my house.

    For the installation of the sound card, I used the Win 7 x64 drivers, which installed without any error.
    Even the management tool of the sound card was installed fine.

    The problem I have is, that Vail will or can not detect the sound card in the playback devices window (taskbar).
    I don't know if this is a "works as designed" behavior, but it looks a little confusing to me.
    I already tried 3 different sound cards (PCI to USB), with the same outcome.

    Does anyone of you have an clue, what´s happening here?

    Thanks
    Stefan


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    Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:02 PM

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    On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:02:20 +0000, sk1983 wrote:

    The problem I have is, that Vail will or can not detect the sound card in the playback devices window (taskbar).
    I don't know if this is a "works as designed"?behavior, but it looks a little confusing to me.
    I?already?tried 3 different?sound cards?(PCI to USB), with the same outcome.


    Does anyone of you have an clue, what?s happening here?

    In Server 2008 the Windows Audio service is disabled by default. If you
    configure it to start automatically and then start it, you should have
    sound.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca

    Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:36 PM
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    In addition to Paul's good advice, in order to get sound playback working in your environment you may need to run the playback application in the console session on your server. So you won't be able to just log in through remote desktop as normal, you'll either have to control it from the physical desktop, or you'll need to start a remote desktop connection to the console session and just disconnect from the connection.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, November 4, 2010 1:26 AM
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    On Wed, 3 Nov 2010 23:02:20 +0000, sk1983 wrote:

    The problem I have is, that Vail will or can not detect the sound card in the playback devices window (taskbar).
    I don't know if this is a "works as designed"?behavior, but it looks a little confusing to me.
    I?already?tried 3 different?sound cards?(PCI to USB), with the same outcome.


    Does anyone of you have an clue, what?s happening here?

    In Server 2008 the Windows Audio service is disabled by default. If you
    configure it to start automatically and then start it, you should have
    sound.

    Paul Adare
    MVP - Identity Lifecycle Manager
    http://www.identit.ca

    Wednesday, November 3, 2010 11:36 PM
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    In addition to Paul's good advice, in order to get sound playback working in your environment you may need to run the playback application in the console session on your server. So you won't be able to just log in through remote desktop as normal, you'll either have to control it from the physical desktop, or you'll need to start a remote desktop connection to the console session and just disconnect from the connection.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Thursday, November 4, 2010 1:26 AM
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    Hey Paul, thanks for the tip. I already did that, with no success. http://www5.pic-upload.de/04.11.10/5xo14u7lrvom.jpg I don't know what´s going on here. Is there something else, I need to do to get audio working properly? Thanks Stefan
    Thursday, November 4, 2010 7:40 AM
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    And what I really find a little confusing is, that Windows tells me, I did not have any sound card installed.

    http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/9606/dddst.jpg
    Thursday, November 4, 2010 8:01 AM
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    I think I may have seen this same issue a week or two ago. I saw different behavior for audio devices when I was logged in via a Remote Desktop connection and logged in directly to the server console.
    Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:19 PM
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    I also ran across this blog post which may help if you need to enable audio through RDP sessions.

    http://blog.waynehartman.com/articles/189.aspx

     

    Thursday, November 4, 2010 4:39 PM
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    Hey, thanks for the link, but Audio through RDP is not what I was looking for.

     

    I just want to have my WHS play some music, which is staying next to my living room amplifier.

     

    I just need to connect my WHS to my amplifier.

    Then I can start iTunes which comes along with a remote app for iPod and iPhone. So, while sitting on my couch I can get my iPhone and start any song I want, right away, without having any PC running, except the WHS. And through the AirPort Express, I can stream the same signal to other rooms, like bathroom or bedroom simulationsly.

    That is actually what I am looking for.

    But to do that, I need the WHS to behave like a normal PC, so with a sound card on board and able to play any kind of music right away.

    And that doesn't matter, if I'm connected via RDP or having a discrete graphics card inside which I'm connected to.

     

    Thanks

    Stefan

    Thursday, November 4, 2010 6:08 PM
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    In your remote desktop settings Options on the Local Resources tab did you set Remote audio playback to Play on remote computer?
     
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    "sk1983" wrote in message news:9e2968ec-dbc7-4d2b-b1ce-77058367fbcd...

    Hey, thanks for the link, but Audio through RDP is not what I was looking for.

     

    I just want to have my WHS play some music, which is staying next to my living room amplifier.

     

    I just need to connect my WHS to my amplifier.

    Then I can start iTunes which comes along with a remote app for iPod and iPhone. So, while sitting on my couch I can get my iPhone and start any song I want, right away, without having any PC running, except the WHS. And through the AirPort Express, I can stream the same signal to other rooms, like bathroom or bedroom simulationsly.

    That is actually what I am looking for.

    But to do that, I need the WHS to behave like a normal PC, so with a sound card on board and able to play any kind of music right away.

    And that doesn't matter, if I'm connected via RDP or having a discrete graphics card inside which I'm connected to.

     

    Thanks

    Stefan

    Sunday, November 7, 2010 4:23 PM
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    In addition to Paul's good advice, in order to get sound playback working in your environment you may need to run the playback application in the console session on your server. So you won't be able to just log in through remote desktop as normal, you'll either have to control it from the physical desktop, or you'll need to start a remote desktop connection to the console session and just disconnect from the connection.
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)


    What???? Is this true?????

    That's pretty lame then....

    Monday, November 8, 2010 5:07 AM
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    Hey, thanks for the link, but Audio through RDP is not what I was looking for.
     
    I just want to have my WHS play some music, which is staying next to my living room amplifier.
    Like many other problems, this one is completely eliminated by running WHS in a virtual machine.
     
    David Wilkinson | Visual C++ MVP
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    Monday, November 8, 2010 8:05 AM
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    It's an expected result of running a desktop application that wants direct hardware control, which is a good description of most audio playback software...
    I'm not on the WHS team, I just post a lot. :)
    Monday, November 8, 2010 1:42 PM
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    Yes I did.
    Monday, November 8, 2010 8:50 PM
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    Which is a fact, that can't be true at all, but apparently is :(

     

    I just tried to run WHS on my desktop (MSI Board with Realtek on Board) instead of my dedicated Belinea Home Server (comparable to HPs Media Vault). And to my surprise, sound is working fine there! It seems only Realtek is able to get sound working on Vail so far. I tried several sound cards, from creative, to speed link (c-media chip) to USB sound devices, with no luck so far.

    As a kind of last try, I thought to try the on Board sound of my desktop board and give it a shot.

    To my total surprise, it worked like a charm.

     

    Does anyone of you know a discrete sound card with realtek chip on it? I guess no, right?

    That means, it will never have sound on my WHS (Vail), except I throw my Belinea HS away and build a "do it yourself" Home Server with new hardware.

     

    That's disgusting.

     

    Stefan
    Monday, November 8, 2010 9:04 PM
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    Have the same problem on an Intel DQ45EK board with Intel ADI AD1882 audiocodec and SoundMax drivers.

    This must be a registry setting or similar.

    Saturday, November 13, 2010 6:27 AM
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    Have the same problem on an Intel DQ45EK board with Intel ADI AD1882 audiocodec and SoundMax drivers.

    This must be a registry setting or similar.


    Did you also try several audio cards with no luck?

    I found out, that only realtek has supporting drivers for WHS.

     

     

    Sunday, November 14, 2010 2:44 PM
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    No, I only tried the onboard sound chip. But the driver seams to be installed correctly (no problems in dev. mgr)

    Interesting that you got a RealTek based card to work, that's a work around. I really like to know what causes this.

     

    Monday, November 15, 2010 10:10 PM
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    No, I only tried the onboard sound chip. But the driver seams to be installed correctly (no problems in dev. mgr)

    Interesting that you got a RealTek based card to work, that's a work around. I really like to know what causes this.

     

    No, actually it´s not.

     

    I am not running whs on my desktop pc, that was just worth a try.

    And since Realtek Sound is not available as a sound card (just onboard), this is no workaround.

    Can NO one help in this issue?

    Monday, November 15, 2010 10:34 PM