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Am really shocked!!! RRS feed

  • Question

  • I am really shocked at the behaviour of some participants.   I found that one of the participant has downloaded some of the whitepapers that were uploaded this month and has uploaded them as his own paper..This is not good for the competition.  Is the race for points , blinding the paricipants from being genuine?

    "Art for art's sake" is the need of the hour.

    Monday, June 4, 2007 4:13 PM

Answers

  • can you put the name of those members who have done this type of job...

     

    Monday, June 4, 2007 5:58 PM
  • @Vashistha - I don't think that will be fair on my part..

    But i can say one thing, one of my papers were also downloaded by someone and uploaded again as his own. But the guy didn't even look into the paper. I had put my email id  in the paper , even that wasn't changed..

    Monday, June 4, 2007 11:02 PM
  • that's not shocking.
    it's just that you came to know about it.
    many things are happening here which don't even get noticed.
    but you should bring this to the notice.
    Tuesday, June 5, 2007 1:49 AM
  • I also agree with you. There are many members who are kinda blind for points. They want it at any cost. Hope they will stop doing this.
    Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:11 PM
  • @ Rahul

     

    Really a good post. Now people can be aware that students are watching and listing to their papers uploaded.

     

    It is satisfactory for all the participants really who work on articles and whitepapers.

     

    @HACKERS

     

    Dont show you crazy efforts in this type of posting articles

     

    regards,

    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 7:58 AM
  • Is that ur own paper.Even u 2 could have downloaded them some where and uploaded here.same way he might have .
    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 8:59 AM
  • @ Jagdeesh - It is my own paper man , I didn't download from anywhere...I coded for a popular puzzle and that is what I have explained in my paper...  I have my C program included in it man..
    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:29 AM
  • Yes man even i have seen it. This is disgusting. People dont even want to open the whitepaper and have a look at what are the contents inside. Dont  know why people are that greedy for poitns. This could even lead to deletion of their accounts.
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:47 PM
  • Well, The admins should look at the whitepapers to check their genuineness but there are so many whitepapers, its practically impossible to check them out..
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:51 PM
  • @ ALL

     

    See the people are not ready to effort themself for creating a white paper or an article. This is because they don't get confident on their own. Now this is my tips on how to create or do with tackling papers.

     

    White paper and articles are nothing but

    1. A good effort from the good knowledge person on the particular area

    2. New path is laid for the foundation of the subject

    3. Some creative knowledge that it may handle

     

    The above are some tips, it is not a rule but it makes you to sharpen about the particular area. Before you opt to create or write, search for people who interested on your topic read their papers you will get something about the subject. Try to implement you own good ideas even then if it is not appreciated that is all about your effort.

     

    regards,

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:29 PM
  • I agree with you Fredrick, people should do some research in creating the whitepapers, and not just copy the entire thing without even reading the contents.
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:10 PM
  •  Varun_Modi_a59ed9 wrote:
    Well, The admins should look at the whitepapers to check their genuineness but there are so many whitepapers, its practically impossible to check them out..

     

    Varun , we can make a impact by gving least rating to these non-genuine papers.. What do you say guys?

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:55 PM
  • @Raghuram, thats a nice idea, but people can misuse the feature, and rate other persons whitepaas as non-genuine for whom they dont like Stick out tongue
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:21 PM
  • I m not sure if you can rely on the ratings, now how have a look at the amount of papers their, is it possible to read and rate even 10% of them, most of the people are rating as it is without reading, so its no use taking that point into consideration..
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:54 PM
  • I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the paper Raghuram is referring to, has been uploaded (without a single change) by adithya . and is named Exciting Puzzles on 4 June. 13 people have rated it including me, and i am sure a lot of people have mentioned the copying part in the comment section.

    I dont like bieng a telltale crank, but nobody likes plaigiarism, especially when you have put so much effort in it.

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:27 PM
  • Post edited for a new start...
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:12 PM
  • I used to respect Adithya seeing his rank in the rockstar rank list. I still dont want to loose the respect until he gives us the reason for doing so. May be he  can lie that someone hacked his account and did so Stick out tongue Who knows .
    Friday, June 8, 2007 4:30 AM
  • Yes, we are all waiting to hear his side of the story...
    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:32 AM
  • well here is my side of the story.....i didnt intend to do that but if u see my earlier whitepapers i have worked hard for them and this month i had some whitepapers but sadly my system got formatted and i didnt have the patience to do it all over again and anyway i am not greedy for points...........will 50 odd points matter.........will they??????????i dont think so........and also i had lots of other work....and the person who has created the thread keeps marking every reply as answer.........if u see what many people have done in all these 4 months what i have done is very minor thing.......but anyways sorry to the whitepaper owner but i have no real intention of snatching away the credit from someone........

     

    regards,

                       Adithya

    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:25 PM
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    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:56 PM
  • Hey Adhitya,
    you could also have got whitepapers from the net, Why just take others whitepaper and upload. Thats what we all guys are opposed of. We dont mind whether you have created that whiteapaper or not, we just want that others genuine work shouldn't be stolen. You could atleast have opened the file and seen whats inside it. It wouldn't take more than 2-3 minutes.
    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:59 PM
  • Anyways, i dont have the right to say anything to you. Lets see what the owner of this thread says. I still have a good feeling for you as a contender Smile
    Friday, June 8, 2007 6:00 PM
  • i could have dont that but i didnt want to take away the credit of the owner of the whiteppaer.........thats the lghter side of it..........varun u seem to be upset but let me tell u that i have seen u marking ur own replies as answere so please stop commenting on others.....i havent commented on anybody but when wveryone is pointing me i am no sage to sit silently and watch......so u better know what u are doing before telling others.........
    Friday, June 8, 2007 6:04 PM
  • Post edited for a new start...
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:37 AM
  • If what Varun has done is a crime, then a lot of other people including me can be considered criminals. As Varun has already pointed out, the marking of answers has nothing to do with the forum points. We all mark all the posts in our thread as answers. Why? Because the feature is available and we are putting it to good use. I mark all because i feel it is an encouragement for others to interact in discussions. Again, no action from our side has led to gaining of undeserved points which can be considered as cheating.

    Saturday, June 9, 2007 8:49 AM
  •     I totally agree with Varun and Adnan regarding marking posts as answers, thats why i too mark all the posts as anwers (maybe a few may be left out since ALERT feature is not working for me)...

     

    @ Adithya -  No prob. guy.. Just leave the past.. Lets participate with true sense now onwards...

    Saturday, June 9, 2007 11:38 AM
  • Well said Raghuram. Lets leave this aside and have fun. No hard feelings, i hope.
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 2:18 PM
  • I also agree with all of you guys, if thats considered as being a criminal, then i am included in the party too Stick out tongue. I feel that it gives encouragement to others taking part in the thread. We aint selfish like others who only mark their posts as answers. Also that doesn't matter and has no relation with the points being awards for the Top 10 or Top 100 in the forums.

    Anyways, cheer up Adithya, and forget the past Smile Lets make this place a peaceful place. We being the senior members, if we do something like this like fighting with each other, then i dont think it will be a good impression on the new comers here. Lets build up a place where everyone can interact, and without any problem and gradges against others Smile
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:49 PM
  • Ok, Guys, edited the last few posts, its time for the new start...
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 5:28 PM
  • Thats really nice Varun, and thats exactly what was to be expected by such a reputed and senior person like you in this forums Smile Good work dude, Hope Raghuram and Adithya also understand it Wink
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 5:36 PM
  • Great work Varun.
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 6:44 PM

All replies

  • can you put the name of those members who have done this type of job...

     

    Monday, June 4, 2007 5:58 PM
  • @Vashistha - I don't think that will be fair on my part..

    But i can say one thing, one of my papers were also downloaded by someone and uploaded again as his own. But the guy didn't even look into the paper. I had put my email id  in the paper , even that wasn't changed..

    Monday, June 4, 2007 11:02 PM
  • that's not shocking.
    it's just that you came to know about it.
    many things are happening here which don't even get noticed.
    but you should bring this to the notice.
    Tuesday, June 5, 2007 1:49 AM
  • I also agree with you. There are many members who are kinda blind for points. They want it at any cost. Hope they will stop doing this.
    Tuesday, June 5, 2007 10:11 PM
  • @ Rahul

     

    Really a good post. Now people can be aware that students are watching and listing to their papers uploaded.

     

    It is satisfactory for all the participants really who work on articles and whitepapers.

     

    @HACKERS

     

    Dont show you crazy efforts in this type of posting articles

     

    regards,

    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 7:58 AM
  • Is that ur own paper.Even u 2 could have downloaded them some where and uploaded here.same way he might have .
    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 8:59 AM
  • @ Jagdeesh - It is my own paper man , I didn't download from anywhere...I coded for a popular puzzle and that is what I have explained in my paper...  I have my C program included in it man..
    Wednesday, June 6, 2007 9:29 AM
  • Yes man even i have seen it. This is disgusting. People dont even want to open the whitepaper and have a look at what are the contents inside. Dont  know why people are that greedy for poitns. This could even lead to deletion of their accounts.
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:47 PM
  • Well, The admins should look at the whitepapers to check their genuineness but there are so many whitepapers, its practically impossible to check them out..
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 1:51 PM
  • @ ALL

     

    See the people are not ready to effort themself for creating a white paper or an article. This is because they don't get confident on their own. Now this is my tips on how to create or do with tackling papers.

     

    White paper and articles are nothing but

    1. A good effort from the good knowledge person on the particular area

    2. New path is laid for the foundation of the subject

    3. Some creative knowledge that it may handle

     

    The above are some tips, it is not a rule but it makes you to sharpen about the particular area. Before you opt to create or write, search for people who interested on your topic read their papers you will get something about the subject. Try to implement you own good ideas even then if it is not appreciated that is all about your effort.

     

    regards,

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:29 PM
  • I agree with you Fredrick, people should do some research in creating the whitepapers, and not just copy the entire thing without even reading the contents.
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:10 PM
  •  Varun_Modi_a59ed9 wrote:
    Well, The admins should look at the whitepapers to check their genuineness but there are so many whitepapers, its practically impossible to check them out..

     

    Varun , we can make a impact by gving least rating to these non-genuine papers.. What do you say guys?

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 4:55 PM
  • @Raghuram, thats a nice idea, but people can misuse the feature, and rate other persons whitepaas as non-genuine for whom they dont like Stick out tongue
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:21 PM
  • I m not sure if you can rely on the ratings, now how have a look at the amount of papers their, is it possible to read and rate even 10% of them, most of the people are rating as it is without reading, so its no use taking that point into consideration..
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:54 PM
  • I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the paper Raghuram is referring to, has been uploaded (without a single change) by adithya . and is named Exciting Puzzles on 4 June. 13 people have rated it including me, and i am sure a lot of people have mentioned the copying part in the comment section.

    I dont like bieng a telltale crank, but nobody likes plaigiarism, especially when you have put so much effort in it.

    Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:27 PM
  • Post edited for a new start...
    Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:12 PM
  • I used to respect Adithya seeing his rank in the rockstar rank list. I still dont want to loose the respect until he gives us the reason for doing so. May be he  can lie that someone hacked his account and did so Stick out tongue Who knows .
    Friday, June 8, 2007 4:30 AM
  • Yes, we are all waiting to hear his side of the story...
    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:32 AM
  • well here is my side of the story.....i didnt intend to do that but if u see my earlier whitepapers i have worked hard for them and this month i had some whitepapers but sadly my system got formatted and i didnt have the patience to do it all over again and anyway i am not greedy for points...........will 50 odd points matter.........will they??????????i dont think so........and also i had lots of other work....and the person who has created the thread keeps marking every reply as answer.........if u see what many people have done in all these 4 months what i have done is very minor thing.......but anyways sorry to the whitepaper owner but i have no real intention of snatching away the credit from someone........

     

    regards,

                       Adithya

    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:25 PM
  • Post edited for a new start...
    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:56 PM
  • Hey Adhitya,
    you could also have got whitepapers from the net, Why just take others whitepaper and upload. Thats what we all guys are opposed of. We dont mind whether you have created that whiteapaper or not, we just want that others genuine work shouldn't be stolen. You could atleast have opened the file and seen whats inside it. It wouldn't take more than 2-3 minutes.
    Friday, June 8, 2007 5:59 PM
  • Anyways, i dont have the right to say anything to you. Lets see what the owner of this thread says. I still have a good feeling for you as a contender Smile
    Friday, June 8, 2007 6:00 PM
  • i could have dont that but i didnt want to take away the credit of the owner of the whiteppaer.........thats the lghter side of it..........varun u seem to be upset but let me tell u that i have seen u marking ur own replies as answere so please stop commenting on others.....i havent commented on anybody but when wveryone is pointing me i am no sage to sit silently and watch......so u better know what u are doing before telling others.........
    Friday, June 8, 2007 6:04 PM
  • Post edited for a new start...
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:37 AM
  • If what Varun has done is a crime, then a lot of other people including me can be considered criminals. As Varun has already pointed out, the marking of answers has nothing to do with the forum points. We all mark all the posts in our thread as answers. Why? Because the feature is available and we are putting it to good use. I mark all because i feel it is an encouragement for others to interact in discussions. Again, no action from our side has led to gaining of undeserved points which can be considered as cheating.

    Saturday, June 9, 2007 8:49 AM
  •     I totally agree with Varun and Adnan regarding marking posts as answers, thats why i too mark all the posts as anwers (maybe a few may be left out since ALERT feature is not working for me)...

     

    @ Adithya -  No prob. guy.. Just leave the past.. Lets participate with true sense now onwards...

    Saturday, June 9, 2007 11:38 AM
  • Well said Raghuram. Lets leave this aside and have fun. No hard feelings, i hope.
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 2:18 PM
  • I also agree with all of you guys, if thats considered as being a criminal, then i am included in the party too Stick out tongue. I feel that it gives encouragement to others taking part in the thread. We aint selfish like others who only mark their posts as answers. Also that doesn't matter and has no relation with the points being awards for the Top 10 or Top 100 in the forums.

    Anyways, cheer up Adithya, and forget the past Smile Lets make this place a peaceful place. We being the senior members, if we do something like this like fighting with each other, then i dont think it will be a good impression on the new comers here. Lets build up a place where everyone can interact, and without any problem and gradges against others Smile
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 3:49 PM
  • Ok, Guys, edited the last few posts, its time for the new start...
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 5:28 PM
  • Thats really nice Varun, and thats exactly what was to be expected by such a reputed and senior person like you in this forums Smile Good work dude, Hope Raghuram and Adithya also understand it Wink
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 5:36 PM
  • Great work Varun.
    Saturday, June 9, 2007 6:44 PM