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Move not working when using ipad2 (Later: the code behind the Submit button causes the problem - needs to be changed) RRS feed

  • Question

  • Probably not your problem but I thought I had better report it.

    I have been trying out an Ipad2 with the forums to see if that is all I will need to take with me when I go on three weeks holiday (but still want to do forum support).

    So far most things work fine even if I will be typing a bit less but I can not get Move to work.

    I can select the forum to move to and write a reason but when I click on Submit the system returns to the same Move screen and no move has taken place. All is not lost because at least delete works so I can remove off-topic posts that way but I doubt if that will meet with much approval and anyway it would be completely wrong to delete posts which are in the Wrong exact forum but at least in the right set of forums. Completely off topic ones are somewhat different ...

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    Later: I can start new threads while in the IPad's Safari (with as here - before I edited the post elsewhere - all line feeds being ignored) but I have found that I can not reply to existing threads.  (I can do reply which opens the text box; I can type in the reply; but then submit has no effect - as if the button isn't active)

    Unless this can be solved, forum support if the Ipad2 is all I have with me is going to consist of reading posts and deleting way-off-topic ones. Not exactly a desired form of forum moderation.

     

    Note: Does anyone else with an IPad2 have the same experiences and are there alternative browsers that I could install (using the word install with a pinch of salt given the way the IPad works)

     

    Mike Walsh

     

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

     





    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:27 AM One ) too many
    Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:45 AM

Answers

  • No, we haven't attempted to fix this yet. And we shouldn't have made any changes around how things work here. We do have a bug logged on this but I'm not sure when we'll get to it.
    Community Forums Program Manager
    Friday, August 5, 2011 8:20 PM
    Answerer
  • > Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    It's an old argument between us but answering it in brief

    a) the thread stays in the wrong location - not good, not least because it encourages more off-topic posts.

    b) it's more effort.   

    (Yes, once it doesn't matter but I have ca 20 moves to SP 2010 forums a day [plus occasional moves to other different forum sets]) and that adds up.) 

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    In the context of this thread, reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work). So it's not a (working) alternative to Move in this case.

    Mike

    (Most of my moves are not to Off-Topic)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:38 AM
  • > Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    It's an old argument between us but answering it in brief

    a) the thread stays in the wrong location - not good, not least because it encourages more off-topic posts.

    b) it's more effort.   

    (Yes, once it doesn't matter but I have ca 20 moves to SP 2010 forums a day [plus occasional moves to other different forum sets]) and that adds up.) 

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    In the context of this thread, reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work). So it's not a (working) alternative to Move in this case.

    Mike

    (Most of my moves are not to Off-Topic)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    A third reason is that then you're left with a bunch of unanswered, off topic questions in the wrong forums, and it's kind of pointless to have topical forums that way.

    But I agree that we need a better solution. We need to have more users with the power to move threads to the correct forums.


    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Friday, October 14, 2011 11:10 PM
    Owner

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  • Bumping this as it does mean that my moderation over a three week period will consist of deleting off-topic posts and threads because virtually nothing else works when using the Ipad2's browser to access the forums.

    Further investigation shows the problem is entirely with the Submit button (and thus presumably with the code behind it).

    When the Submit button is clicked (say on a Move) a URL is accessed and then the same page (i.e. the Move page) returned to the browser. The action does not take place.

    This seems to be the same for all Submit buttons which is why Edit and Reply for instance don't work either.

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    The list of things that work can be extended from Delete to other things that do not require a Submit button. It means therefore that Set Alert (and Remove Alert) work; that propose a post (and unpropose a post) work and so on.

    The problem is that my Moderation (because far too many people think that SharePoint 2010 questions belong in forums with "pre-SharePoint 2010" in their Names) requires a lot of Moving and this isn't possible.

    Surely the code behind the Submit button can be looked at to see what the problem is?

     

    Mike Walsh


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Wednesday, August 3, 2011 7:26 AM
  • In the last couple of days I have had difficulty when using the Ipad doing the things (Set Alert; Delete etc.) that I could do before. (i.e the ones that didn't require use of the Submit button).

    I hope very much that this is not your solution to the problem of the Ipad's browser not working well with the forum threads/posts - i.e. change the code to make it not work at all.

    [I'm getting the same kind of error message that used to come with normal browsers when you tried to Edit which the edit box was still in html mode - i.e. a box with in this case what looks like the forum address and an OK button. This on clicking Enter on the box requiring a reason for the delete.]

     

    Mike Walsh


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Friday, August 5, 2011 7:11 PM
  • No, we haven't attempted to fix this yet. And we shouldn't have made any changes around how things work here. We do have a bug logged on this but I'm not sure when we'll get to it.
    Community Forums Program Manager
    Friday, August 5, 2011 8:20 PM
    Answerer
  • Thanks for the update, Brent.

    Must be busy forums that's causing the additional problem.

    Mike

     > but I'm not sure when we'll get to it

    Before November I hope!

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:19 AM
  • Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    So  many (too many) threads are moved to off topic don't post here and that's not a way to treat Microsoft customers.

    Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:30 AM
  • > Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    It's an old argument between us but answering it in brief

    a) the thread stays in the wrong location - not good, not least because it encourages more off-topic posts.

    b) it's more effort.   

    (Yes, once it doesn't matter but I have ca 20 moves to SP 2010 forums a day [plus occasional moves to other different forum sets]) and that adds up.) 

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    In the context of this thread, reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work). So it's not a (working) alternative to Move in this case.

    Mike

    (Most of my moves are not to Off-Topic)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Saturday, August 6, 2011 6:38 AM
  • Gee I don't know, ever though of a WINDOWS tablet?
    Saturday, August 6, 2011 2:03 PM
  • "reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work)"

    I am having the same problem with the Safari browser on Windows XP.


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    Saturday, August 6, 2011 2:07 PM
  • > I am having the same problem with the Safari browser on Windows XP.

    I've been using Safari on a couple of machines occasionally and not noticed things not working with the forums. Both were Windows 7 though. (and of course it might well depend on the version of Safari).

    Mike

    Later: It's worse than I thought. I have a MacBook that's using the latest version minus one of OSX (i.e. what was latest up to a couple of months ago) and with its Safari I can't Move forum threads either (because again the Submit doesn't work). It's getting bad if you can't even use Macs to work with the forums.

    [I'm uploading all the latest fixes (without getting the upgrade to the very latest OSX version) and will report back here but for the moment the above is the situation]

    The latest fixes have no effect and there is still no listing on the right hand side of the page of the block of links from "My Settings" to "Browse Forum Users". (Meaning that you have to check forums one by one). Those fixes included Safari to 5.1 from 5.0.

    Firefox does however work OK on the Mac.

     

     

     

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters



    • Edited by Mike Walsh FIN Monday, August 8, 2011 1:46 PM Later paras added
    Saturday, August 6, 2011 3:04 PM
  • > Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    It's an old argument between us but answering it in brief

    a) the thread stays in the wrong location - not good, not least because it encourages more off-topic posts.

    b) it's more effort.   

    (Yes, once it doesn't matter but I have ca 20 moves to SP 2010 forums a day [plus occasional moves to other different forum sets]) and that adds up.) 

    ------------------------------

    In the context of this thread, reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work). So it's not a (working) alternative to Move in this case.

    Mike

    (Most of my moves are not to Off-Topic)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    A third reason is that then you're left with a bunch of unanswered, off topic questions in the wrong forums, and it's kind of pointless to have topical forums that way.

    But I agree that we need a better solution. We need to have more users with the power to move threads to the correct forums.


    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Friday, October 14, 2011 11:10 PM
    Owner
  • > Why not just put a post to the person telling them the forum to post to rather than moving threads?

    It's an old argument between us but answering it in brief

    a) the thread stays in the wrong location - not good, not least because it encourages more off-topic posts.

    b) it's more effort.   

    (Yes, once it doesn't matter but I have ca 20 moves to SP 2010 forums a day [plus occasional moves to other different forum sets]) and that adds up.) 

    ------------------------------

    In the context of this thread, reply doesn't work either when using the Ipad2's browser (as the Submit once you have written the text of the reply doesn't work). So it's not a (working) alternative to Move in this case.

    Mike

    (Most of my moves are not to Off-Topic)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters


    Mike, actually the topic changed, so I'll let you decide if these are answers. Thanks!
    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Monday, October 31, 2011 2:37 AM
    Owner