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  • MVPs get automatically the letters MVP next to their name when they post to the forums.

    According to the FAQ for the Microsoft Community Contributor Award program contributions to the forums are no longer part of the requirements for being an MVP and people who contribute a lot to the forums are now awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor Award "title". (Instead?)

    Does this mean that the letters "MVP" will now disappear from forum posts from MVPs and instead people awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor title will get the letters MCCA next to their name when they post? 

    Mike Walsh

    P.S. How many MCCAs are there at day one ?

     

     


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  • I think we can answer this thread now. It's much later now, and you probably know all the answers, but let's answer the questions and close the thread...

    Q: Will members of the Microsoft Community Contributor Award program get a MCCA next to their name?

    A: Yes. It originally said "Microsoft Community Contributor" in the Forums, but people asked for it to say "MCC" instead so that it looked more like an award (and less like an employee).

    Q: Does this mean that the letters "MVP" will now disappear from forum posts from MVPs and instead people awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor title will get the letters MCCA next to their name when they post?

    A: No. If someone is an MVP, then they keep the letters. Usually you can't be both, but there are various overlaps in the two programs. The MCC program does focus more on the social tool work (MVPs could get their status from work outside the social tools).
    Q: How many MCCAs are there at day one ?
     
    A: So obviously Day One is long gone, but it should be said that MCCs are more common, as it is easier to prove that you're a leader in the community than to prove that you are an expert authority in specific technology.
    Hope this helps!

    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:13 PM
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  • Hello Mike,

    a MCCA is not the same like a MVP.

    An MVP canrecommend a person to be awarded as an MCCA.

    http://www.windowsvalley.com/microsoft-community-contributor-award-program/


    Cheers Jörn Bosse, Microsoft Junior Studentpartner
    Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:49 AM
  • This is a bizarre reply.

    Of course as I used to be an MVP and have now been award the Microsoft Community Contributor title I am aware of the difference. I am also aware - because I naturally on being awarded read the MCC FAQ - that MVPs can recommend people to become MCCs. That is however not the only way to become one.

    The reason however that it's a bizarre reply is because that MVPs are different to MCCs has nothing to do with my question.

    I was merely saying that MVPs - who are appointed for all kinds of things, not necesarily for posting to forums  - get the letters MVP next to their name (even if they post once every three months) but MCCs - who are appointed for forum work and therefore do a lot of it - do not get MCC after their name **in forums**.

    I have been told privately that this is likely to come at some stage in the future and that maybe someday we might find out just who was awarded. Even people awarded have at the present time no idea who else was awarded. Why they were awarded we will - just as with MVPs - never find out.


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    Tuesday, December 14, 2010 12:00 PM
  • Hi, 



    I read your post the other day and decided to contact the MCC team for an answer, their reply is below:



    Hello,

    Thank you for your mail. I spoke with the Program manager regarding your inquiry. They stated that is ok to include on your signature but not the acronym “MCC”. You would need it to be listed as “Microsoft Community Contributor” or use the logo. Microsoft has noted that they do not want the Acronym used.

    Please let us know if you have any other questions.

    Best Regards,

    MCC Global Administrator


    - I was awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor award and am very happy Microsoft awarded me it.
    Wednesday, December 15, 2010 10:43 AM
  • > Microsoft has noted that they do not want the Acronym used.

    Must be the first time that Microsoft have objected to the use of a three letter acronym.

    I wonder where they say this (maybe I didn't read the FAQ well enough). They haven't mentioned it in several replies to me.

    >  - I was awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor award and am very happy Microsoft awarded me it.

    I have found it almost completely lacking in anything at all useful in the (stated by them) task of "helping you to provide even better support".

    I suppose it depends in which direction you are coming. As someone who had been an MVP for many years until just over a month before receiving this award I expected it to give me at least a sub-set of MVP benefits. In fact there are none. (and I'm not talking about benefits worth money, I'm talking about improved access to information on MS products - especially information on upcoming product versions).

    >> Even people awarded have at the present time no idea who else was awarded.

    Well now we know of two, Mike Walsh and (ahem) ClickStartComp.

    Mike

     P.S. They must be mad if they think I'll change my (forum) Display Name to "Mike Walsh Microsoft Community Contributor" ! Not being able to use MCC or MCCA makes the idea of including any such indication impossible.


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    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:36 AM
  • Well this is really strange, i got awarded 2 days ago and I´m very happy about this.

    Well i got some benefits. I´m able to use a Safari Onlinebooks Subscription for 12 months.

    So now we now about 3 people with this award. But there is no overview like for MVP´s.


    Cheers Jörn Bosse, Microsoft Junior Studentpartner
    Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:40 AM
  • > Well i got some benefits. I´m able to use a Safari Onlinebooks Subscription for 12 months.

    I would have regarded this as a benefit if it had indeed been a (full) Safari Onlinebooks Subscription. In fact it is a Safari subscription that is restricted only to a very small set of the books available via a normal Safari subscription - namely those from Microsoft Press.

    For the latest version of "my" product that means about 3 of the ca 70 books already published on that product. (One of the three in fact I already have in paper and another one in a Kindle version but that's not the point - the point is that MS Press books rarely say anything bad about MS products, to do real support we need to know what doesn't work as well as what does).

    Congratulations on getting the award anyway!

    Mike

     


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    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Wednesday, December 15, 2010 11:52 AM
  • Well in your case, this subscription is defenitly not a benefit.

    Since this award is very new, i guess that we´ll have to wait until it´s established in the community.

    The only thing i can say now is: Congratulations to you guys! Let´s see how this is going to be in the future....


    Cheers Jörn Bosse, Microsoft Junior Studentpartner
    Wednesday, December 15, 2010 12:03 PM
  • The chance to check MS Press books on Safari is something good I believe.

    But the main award is you are somehow encouraged by Microsoft to continue your contributions on community sites. In fact I'ld prefer free certification exams or MSDN subscription options more.

    But since this is a new program, it will be better in the following years and cover more contributors.


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    Thursday, December 16, 2010 6:09 AM
  • Dear All,,

     

    Where shall I check the list of  members who got Microsft Community Contributor (MCC) award 2011.


    Venkatesan.M
    Friday, June 10, 2011 6:23 AM
  • I asked this question of the "award team" as soon as the first lot of people had been given the award.

    The reply was that there wasn't such a public list for privacy reasons.

    When I pointed out there was such a list for MVPs (who need to agree to be on the list) and so privacy reasons were not a good argument, they said they hadn't plans for such a list (at the time).

    As far as I know the situation is still the same. The award program doesn't seem to have changed from the beginning (where it offered nothing of any use to award holders - not even the chance to see who the other award holders are.)


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Friday, June 10, 2011 8:46 AM
  • @Mike

    Yes I accepted your point.

    They should display the user name who got MCC Award on Microsoft site or any other related site.

     


    Venkatesan.M
    Saturday, June 11, 2011 6:53 AM
  • @Mike

    Yes I accepted your point.

    They should display the user name who got MCC Award on Microsoft site or any other related site.


    Venkatesan.M


    Should they?

    Why?

    The things that an MVP has to do, in order to get such recognition does, in my view, differ vastly from what an MCC awardee has to.  Using Mike as a previous example, not only does he practically live in the forums, have a substantive book authorship to his name and maintain a dedicated mindsharp area in comparison to my own status as a forum lurker/occasional poster, why should MCC get similar publicity for much less work?  It's a career boost by all means and I think its a good start in rewarding those that offer thier time for free, but don't overstate the perceived benefits that should be attached to it. 

     It's a bit of a moot point anyway, since the main point was about having proper post nominals in the forums.  The current accreditation just looks awful and I can't think orf any reason why it shouldn't be an acronym.


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    Monday, June 13, 2011 1:37 PM
  • >  Using Mike as a previous example     +  > why should MCC get similar publicity for much less work?

    You do realise that I am an EX-MVP ?     :)

     

    Mike

     

     


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    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Monday, June 13, 2011 2:08 PM
  • I am indeed aware; your rant-esque blog entry on the topic I thought was very apt, although I can't remember exactly when it was posted off the top of my head.

    Need a hand moderating the 2007 forums?  I'm in there often enough ;p


    Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
    Monday, June 13, 2011 2:58 PM
  • > your rant-esque blog entry on the topic I thought was very apt

    As the rant part was about the MCC (oops) award and not about the MVP award going, I'd better give the URL so people can see for themselves.

    http://sharepoint.mindsharpblogs.com/MikeW/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?List=e53e10ae%2D7207%2D4c4e%2Da438%2D369684ce9952&ID=200

    > Need a hand moderating the 2007 forums? I'm in there often enough

    I don't have any influence in anything any more - if I ever did - and one of the things I have no influence in is who gets to be a Moderator.

    (I would be very happy if there was an hourly bot that automatically moved over anything with SharePoint 2010 in the title or text though!)

    Mike

     


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters
    Monday, June 13, 2011 3:18 PM
  • The moderators are determined by forum owners, according to Microsoft edicts, which raises the larger question: who the hell is the pre-SharePoint 2010 forum onwer?  I thought it was Lawrence Lui but having checked that out, it doesn't appear so.  I'd be happy helping out as I've moderated gaming community forums for years.

    The 2010 off-topic fest I have noticed too.


    Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
    Monday, June 13, 2011 3:50 PM
  • It's probably around two years since Lawrence Liu (not Lui - you obviously can speak French, I used to make the same mistake) left Microsoft. I presume he hasn't moved back in the meantime.

    I have no idea if there is a Forum owner in fact for any of the pre-SP 2010 forums. I suspect possible owners are concentrating on the SP 2010 forums which are naturally of more interest to them.

    Maybe we should ask (in a new thread in another Using Forums' forum) for a public list of forum owners.


    SP 2010 "FAQ" (mainly useful links): http://wssv4faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    WSS3/MOSS FAQ (FAQ and Links) http://wssv3faq.mindsharp.com/default.aspx
    Both also have links to extensive book lists and to (free) on-line chapters

    Monday, June 13, 2011 4:52 PM
  • Just did: -

    http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/suggest/thread/972d9f99-1b89-4ad3-b264-bc56f6f273c7


    Steven Andrews | SharePoint Professional | http://www.twitter.com/backpackerd00d | https://baron72.wordpress.com/
    Monday, June 13, 2011 6:04 PM
  • I think we can answer this thread now. It's much later now, and you probably know all the answers, but let's answer the questions and close the thread...

    Q: Will members of the Microsoft Community Contributor Award program get a MCCA next to their name?

    A: Yes. It originally said "Microsoft Community Contributor" in the Forums, but people asked for it to say "MCC" instead so that it looked more like an award (and less like an employee).

    Q: Does this mean that the letters "MVP" will now disappear from forum posts from MVPs and instead people awarded the Microsoft Community Contributor title will get the letters MCCA next to their name when they post?

    A: No. If someone is an MVP, then they keep the letters. Usually you can't be both, but there are various overlaps in the two programs. The MCC program does focus more on the social tool work (MVPs could get their status from work outside the social tools).
    Q: How many MCCAs are there at day one ?
     
    A: So obviously Day One is long gone, but it should be said that MCCs are more common, as it is easier to prove that you're a leader in the community than to prove that you are an expert authority in specific technology.
    Hope this helps!

    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Wednesday, September 21, 2011 8:13 PM
    Owner
  • My estimation that every 5th person in the forums hold the award.
    For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. - Becker's Law


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    Thursday, September 22, 2011 3:00 AM
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  • My estimation that every 5th person in the forums hold the award.

    That would be an interesting research study. Is the feedback that the MCC program should be more selective?

    Thanks!


    Ed Price a.k.a User Ed, Microsoft Experience Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)
    Friday, September 23, 2011 1:38 AM
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  • I would say yes, the award needs to be more selective. The MCC loses it's sheen if every other person is awarded.

    My suggestion would be to raise the bar...


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    Monday, September 26, 2011 7:50 PM
  • IMHO, you shouldn't ask for raising the bar, as long as you don't know its current height! :-)

    It might come in quite handy to know the marks for the award because many MCCs are present in more than one forum and any kind of guess is still a guess :-)

    And after making the marks public, it might be (or might not be) reasonable to raise these marks.

    When I received my award in late february this year my first thought was 'Nice, but why me?', well to tell the truth, that's still what I think about it. But this thought comes through the cluelessness about which marks are used.

    Nevertheless, I am glad to have received the MCCA and if next year someone else instead of me will receive it, then I'm sure, that person has earned it.

     


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    Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:13 AM
  • IMHO, it could be a bit more selective, but on the other hand, since there are many current recipients, the people may expect to receive the award if they have the same level of achievements as current awardees.

    The whole process of MCC selection is not really transparent, though. Say, despite my lots of answers in several forums, I received the award only recently. I know of a few more people who were surely deserving and received that award even after me. 


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    Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:21 PM
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  • Hi Ed Price,

    As you mentioned, MCC program is more on social tool work. Please tell me, which are the works that fall outside the social tool? Lets say, I use to write blogs. Then  how, Microsoft or award community will come to know about my blogs? How I will be nominated for MVP? If this is not the correct place to answer my question, then please respond me on my mail id shwetalenka@hotmail.com.

    Awaiting your response.


    Regards, http://shwetamannjain.blogspot.com

    Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:12 PM
  • I just want to shoot something in, just getting the MVP and MCC should be more than enough!

    Microsoft Community Contributer and Microsoft Valuable Professional is something given by Microsoft to people they think contribute to make the community worldwide better, just getting the award is a benefit in itself with recognition from Microsft!

    All the free stuff you get extra for either one of the awards is a bonus!

    Thats just my two cents, and I dont really have any experience with it, but for those who have the award should be more then happy with the recognition rather than the extra benefits. And second never thrive for a reward, keep up the good work and be greatful if you ever get the recognition!

    Best regards,

    Tord Glad Nordahl

    Friday, March 23, 2012 9:29 AM