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    In other words, does it keep everything perfectly in sync?

    for example, if i decide to delete an mp3 album from my music folder, will it also delete that mp3 folder at the next onecare backup?
    Tuesday, August 7, 2007 1:20 PM

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    I believe that you will find that the deleted file will be unavailable to you in a restore if you perform another backup after the deletion took place as OneCare backup is incremental.

    OneCare also doesn't backup versions, keeping only the most recent available to you at restore.

    In theory, older files (versions and deleted files) may well still be in the backup, but you just can't see it in the restore interface because the backup catalog is updated when backup runs. To get to the files that are not presented to you in the restore interface, you would need to browse the contents of the zipped backup files and manually extract the file you desire to recover. If the file is split into multiple zips due to size, you'd need a utility to rejoin the segments.

    The only way to use the OneCare interface to recover deleted or older files, would be to create a new full backup to keep the catalog and the backed up files as a complete unit. Once you perform a second incremental backup, the catalog is updated with changes.

    -steve

     

    Tuesday, August 7, 2007 5:32 PM
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    You've got the 2.0 beta installed, try it and let us know.

     

    We know how it worked in the past, but much of backup has been changed, so we can't assume that our existing knowledge is correct. That's why the beta exists, so you can help test and make comments about your results.

     

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    Tuesday, August 7, 2007 2:49 PM
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    here goes nothing
    Tuesday, August 7, 2007 2:51 PM
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    I believe that you will find that the deleted file will be unavailable to you in a restore if you perform another backup after the deletion took place as OneCare backup is incremental.

    OneCare also doesn't backup versions, keeping only the most recent available to you at restore.

    In theory, older files (versions and deleted files) may well still be in the backup, but you just can't see it in the restore interface because the backup catalog is updated when backup runs. To get to the files that are not presented to you in the restore interface, you would need to browse the contents of the zipped backup files and manually extract the file you desire to recover. If the file is split into multiple zips due to size, you'd need a utility to rejoin the segments.

    The only way to use the OneCare interface to recover deleted or older files, would be to create a new full backup to keep the catalog and the backed up files as a complete unit. Once you perform a second incremental backup, the catalog is updated with changes.

    -steve

     

    Tuesday, August 7, 2007 5:32 PM
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    I can easily see the delted files in Express Restore. So keeping the current version therory may not apply to deleted files, current version can be reframed to last live version of a file Smile

     

     

    Wednesday, August 8, 2007 5:44 AM
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    I guess my question would then be - did you perform another backup after the deletion of a file or files and then run the restore wizard? If so, then I'm wrong about how the backup catalog is being maintained.

    -steve

    Wednesday, August 8, 2007 2:25 PM
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    Steve,

     

    I don't know if a newer version fixes or changes what you're discussing but I just tested a restore of a deleted file and found that not only will WLOC restore a missing file, it will create the directory for it if necessary. I'm running 1.6.2111.38.

     

    I did some gyrations with renaming and moving a file around, changing its original directory name to something else, ran Backup, deleted the new file and directory and it all restored fine, as it should because Backups are supposed to get us out of a brain-fart file deletion scenario.

     

    Oh, I remember seeing another recent thread about WLOC not backing up exe's. In my experiment I found some that mine backed up ok.

     

    Dave

    Friday, December 28, 2007 7:05 PM
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    Hi, Dave.

    The restoration of backed up files that were deleted from the PC hasn't changed and I was wrong in my original reply to the thread.

    The inability to backup exe files is new to version 2, which you have not yet been upgraded to.

    -steve

     

    Friday, December 28, 2007 7:46 PM
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