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  They're back on the example you gave.

  I think there's an issue out there about how the votes display as zero (not permanently) in a specific scenario. I need to get a nailed description of that scenario. Let me know if you can reproduce it!

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  • Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:19 PM
  • Unproposed as answer by Denniver ReiningMVP Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:02 AM
  • Marked as answer by Denniver ReiningMVP Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:11 AM
  • Unmarked as answer by Denniver ReiningMVP Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:36 AM

  Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:19 PM

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  They seemingly re-appear if there is another vote. I can see from my activity log that someone recently voted helpful there, so i was wrong about the count, there were previously 6 votes.
  The votes are gone in a lot of other threads, but i don't keep track of all the helpful votes in the forum, so i cant tell you exactly which. :)

  But i'm sure if someone would dig into it, there would be a bug to be found.

  thanks , denniver

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  • Edited by Denniver ReiningMVP Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:02 AM

  Wednesday, September 26, 2012 10:01 AM

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  Hi Denniver !

  I have verified several threads and didn't find any post where it has been reverted back to "Zero". Here is sample thread where i have 5 helpful votes and still they are visible without any modification;

  http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/CertGeneral/thread/d3df0795-80a7-4879-bc1f-b24a89229202/#146b3201-727b-40e0-9e5a-2992fc43648b

  Please let me know if this doesn’t work for you. Hope I have answered you correctly.
  
  Thanks, Hasham Niaz

  • Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Wednesday, September 26, 2012 11:59 PM
  • Unproposed as answer by Denniver ReiningMVP Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:36 AM

  Wednesday, September 26, 2012 12:00 PM

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  They seemingly re-appear if there is another vote. I can see from my activity log that someone recently voted helpful there, so i was wrong about the count, there were previously 6 votes.
  The votes are gone in a lot of other threads, but i don't keep track of all the helpful votes in the forum, so i cant tell you exactly which. :)

  But i'm sure if someone would dig into it, there would be a bug to be found.

  thanks , denniver

  Well please return if you repro it, because we cannot.

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  Thursday, September 27, 2012 12:00 AM

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  I can confirm this is still an issue. Though I've no idea why some posts have visible votes and some not.

  I went through all my helpful post contributions in my current activity list and found no pattern. The affected threads seem to be no older than a month (no thread after 6th of September had votes. For example: No votes (~Sep 19.), Votes (~Aug 30.) (Links straight from the activity list)) Yet some older posts (~Aug 14.) have no votes either. Any earlier than that I've no idea about as the activity list only shows a certain number of activities...
  

  • Edited by sipla Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:43 AM

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  I can confirm this is still an issue. Though I've no idea why some posts have visible votes and some not.

  I went through all my helpful post contributions in my current activity list and found no pattern. The affected threads seem to be no older than a month (no thread after 6th of September had votes. For example: No votes (~Sep 19.), Votes (~Aug 30.) (Links straight from the activity list)) Yet some older posts (~Aug 14.) have no votes either. Any later than that I've no idea about as the activity list only shows a certain number of activities...

  Hi !

  I can confirm this too. In Sipla's Activity i can see below thread as Helpful post but when i see the thread its not showing any votes;

  http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/thread/5002e885-31ba-49be-8a16-461e5f432500/#a39e37a7-e383-4a8e-a893-def7d757b0d2

  The Only thing i can see in his post is its an edited post.
  

  Please let me know if this doesn’t work for you. Hope I have answered you correctly.
  
  Thanks, Hasham Niaz

  Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:35 AM

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  Good example, Hasham! I am sure many people in this thread (myself included) had votes in that thread and now they are all gone.

  As far as I know, it's only a display issue, they are not removed from the points (although I can not be 100% sure).

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  • Edited by Naomi N Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:46 PM

  Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:45 PM

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  Hasham's example doesn't repro for me. I wonder if it's an issue of your own votes disappearing in specific scenarios. The votes are never gone, but they don't always display. We need more information about when they don't display.

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  Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

  Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:30 PM

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  This thread does a better job of identifying and tracking the real issue behind the votes not displaying. Please follow it here: http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/reportabug/thread/f2e8e35e-b5f1-4321-ab9d-566c152a5c12

  Thanks!

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  Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

  • Proposed as answer by Ed Price - MSFTMicrosoft employee Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:48 PM
  • Marked as answer by Denniver ReiningMVP Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:19 AM

  Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:47 PM

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  Denniver, if you unpropose an answer, please explain why.

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  Ed Price (a.k.a User Ed), SQL Server Customer Program Manager (Blog, Twitter, Wiki)

  Tuesday, October 2, 2012 11:48 PM

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  Isnt it obvious? :) You needed more examples and Hasham and Sipla gave you one.

  In the mean time, i saw that all missing votes on a post RE-appear if the post gets voted again.

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  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:18 AM

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  I am not 100% sure it's the same problem. BTW, Hasham's repro is no longer showing the problem for me, but it was showing it before. 

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  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:33 AM

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  Hi All !

  Again i find the thread, which has Helpful votes included, but its showing me '0' Helpful votes when i see the thread. Please confirm with the Profile Activity of Naomi and Richard Muller they both have contributed Helpful posts on thread

  Voting on the old posts - doesn't work?

  So i think issue is only with the visibility of Helpful votes. Need this can be confirmed as bug.

  Now adding little more to content. As soon as i voted one of the post in this thread as Helpful i am able to see all Helpful votes.

  Please let me know if this doesn’t work for you. Hope I have answered you correctly.
  
  Thanks, Hasham Niaz
  
  

  • Edited by Hasham Niaz Wednesday, October 3, 2012 7:02 AM adding more info.

  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 6:29 AM

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  I see votes in that thread you show. So, it's a bit hard to determine exact circumstances for the bug.

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  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 1:16 PM

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  Isnt it obvious? :) You needed more examples and Hasham and Sipla gave you one.

  In the mean time, i saw that all missing votes on a post RE-appear if the post gets voted again.

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  Good point. Those are examples of threads. I see it almost every thread myself. We just needed to crystalize on how to repro it. It's not 100% consistent, so that's part of the problem.

  Thanks!

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  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 5:55 PM

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  Hasham, I see 7 helpful votes on the post in that thread. In my profile I see two activities for me in that thread:

  Helped identify a helpful topic How to Create a linked server to an iSeries (V5R4M0 and others probably) Using IBM's OLE DB Drivers via Server Management Studio in the Transact-SQL Forum.

  Forums | 5 days ago

  Voted a helpful post in the How to Create a linked server to an iSeries (V5R4M0 and others probably) Using IBM's OLE DB Drivers via Server Management Studio thread in the Transact-SQL Forum.

  Forums | 5 days ago

  How are they different?

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  Wednesday, October 3, 2012 10:26 PM

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  Here is another sample http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/transactsql/thread/b26c0b29-f3c9-49cf-af83-d6eac1b95b77/#2172dccf-768d-4346-a066-c44dc085b760

  In my activity I see that I got 2 helpful votes in that thread, but when I check it, I see none.

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  Friday, October 5, 2012 12:01 PM

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  Here is another sample http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/transactsql/thread/b26c0b29-f3c9-49cf-af83-d6eac1b95b77/#2172dccf-768d-4346-a066-c44dc085b760

  In my activity I see that I got 2 helpful votes in that thread, but when I check it, I see none.

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  I'm try to vote in your post as helpful, before i click it was 0 votes, when i click, it got 2. This never happening before with me.
  

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  Friday, October 5, 2012 2:28 PM

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  Yes, now I see all the votes. So, as the OP stated, sometimes we can not see helpful votes but as soon as someone adds one more vote, they become visible.

  So, there is a bug around this functionality, but hard to reproduce.

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  Friday, October 5, 2012 3:31 PM

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  This is another thread http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/transactsql/thread/f1dd64d9-9601-4c46-a51a-e88fe6b90d9d/#4b801faf-62a3-4e01-907c-b7a51f01ef46

  In my activity I see that I have a helpful vote in that thread, but I don't see it.

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  Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:38 AM

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